KMP Corsair
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ORIGINAL: smchale
... I'm closer to 24lbs. I refinished the entire model with panel lines, rivets, rib stitching, etc etc. I've also beefed up the front with 2 very large cowl flaps to install the 2x 6S packs, sliding canopy, sierra gear, full depth cockpit with moving pilot head, scale tailwheel assembly, sound system with 2 wing mounted speakers and 6S lipos inside....
... I'm closer to 24lbs. I refinished the entire model with panel lines, rivets, rib stitching, etc etc. I've also beefed up the front with 2 very large cowl flaps to install the 2x 6S packs, sliding canopy, sierra gear, full depth cockpit with moving pilot head, scale tailwheel assembly, sound system with 2 wing mounted speakers and 6S lipos inside....
I have an earlier one. it weighs 16 1/4 pounds. (took it out and reweighed it to make sure)
It has an OS 160 and Sierra gear (the ESM was not acceptable), plus about 2 pounds of lead on the firewall.
Why are the later ones so heavy? Would all the additions mentioned above add 8 pounds?
#1252
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RE: KMP Corsair
ORIGINAL: drifter
Did ESM (KMP) change the makeup of the later Corsairs?
I have an earlier one. it weighs 16 1/4 pounds. (took it out and reweighed it to make sure)
It has an OS 160 and Sierra gear (the ESM was not acceptable), plus about 2 pounds of lead on the firewall.
Why are the later ones so heavy? Would all the additions mentioned above add 8 pounds?
ORIGINAL: smchale
... I'm closer to 24lbs. I refinished the entire model with panel lines, rivets, rib stitching, etc etc. I've also beefed up the front with 2 very large cowl flaps to install the 2x 6S packs, sliding canopy, sierra gear, full depth cockpit with moving pilot head, scale tailwheel assembly, sound system with 2 wing mounted speakers and 6S lipos inside....
... I'm closer to 24lbs. I refinished the entire model with panel lines, rivets, rib stitching, etc etc. I've also beefed up the front with 2 very large cowl flaps to install the 2x 6S packs, sliding canopy, sierra gear, full depth cockpit with moving pilot head, scale tailwheel assembly, sound system with 2 wing mounted speakers and 6S lipos inside....
I have an earlier one. it weighs 16 1/4 pounds. (took it out and reweighed it to make sure)
It has an OS 160 and Sierra gear (the ESM was not acceptable), plus about 2 pounds of lead on the firewall.
Why are the later ones so heavy? Would all the additions mentioned above add 8 pounds?
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RE: KMP Corsair
Hi P51Tom,
Can you tell how long those 7/32 sq brass tubes you used on your flap system where? Looking at the photo's I would reckon about 3/8 is that about right?
I've seen that a lot of people have retractable tail wheel doors as well but haven't sen any post on how they might be done. Could do with a clue how to start.[sm=confused.gif]
Thanks,
Phil
Can you tell how long those 7/32 sq brass tubes you used on your flap system where? Looking at the photo's I would reckon about 3/8 is that about right?
I've seen that a lot of people have retractable tail wheel doors as well but haven't sen any post on how they might be done. Could do with a clue how to start.[sm=confused.gif]
Thanks,
Phil
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Hi Phil
You can cut them as long as you want. I cut the Robart Hinge Points a little shorter then cut the tubes long enough to hold the hinges. I also use longer tubes in larger models. I did not bother with tail wheel doors for a sport plane. I did use them my Top Fight giant Corsair, P51, and P47. I hinged the doors with Dubro pinned hinges then ran a spring from one door to the other. The spring keeps them open then when the tail wheel retracks it pulls them closed. Very simple but it works great. Let me know if you need a better discription and I will post some photos.
Good Luck P51Tom
You can cut them as long as you want. I cut the Robart Hinge Points a little shorter then cut the tubes long enough to hold the hinges. I also use longer tubes in larger models. I did not bother with tail wheel doors for a sport plane. I did use them my Top Fight giant Corsair, P51, and P47. I hinged the doors with Dubro pinned hinges then ran a spring from one door to the other. The spring keeps them open then when the tail wheel retracks it pulls them closed. Very simple but it works great. Let me know if you need a better discription and I will post some photos.
Good Luck P51Tom
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Hi P51Tom,
Thanks for the info but I don't think I asked my question in the right way[sm=75_75.gif].
What I really ment was how far out of the main wing did the sq brass protrude!!
Would be very grateful for some photos of the gear door spring system when you have the time.
Many thanks,
Phil
Thanks for the info but I don't think I asked my question in the right way[sm=75_75.gif].
What I really ment was how far out of the main wing did the sq brass protrude!!
Would be very grateful for some photos of the gear door spring system when you have the time.
Many thanks,
Phil
#1258
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Hi Phil, My brass tubes extend 7/8" from trailing edge of wing. I glue them last. Complete all the flap hinges then hook up everything and check clearance when flaps are up. I use a strip in 1/32 ply as a spacer between the overhang and the top of the flaps. When all looks good I use med CA to glue the bass tubes. Be careful not to glue the hinge point at this time. After everything is painted I glue the hinges in with 30 min epozy. I am senting some photos of my TFGS P47 tail wheel doors. On these doors I used Nelson hinges.
Good Luck
P51Tom
Good Luck
P51Tom
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RE: KMP Corsair
Thanks P51Tom its now all clear in my mind[sm=regular_smile.gif] & I can start designing the jigs to get the hinges in the same line every time.
Cheers,
Phil
Cheers,
Phil
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RE: KMP Corsair
ORIGINAL: DOC
I've seen just about every Corsair model and they all HUNT during high speed level flight. The best part of flying this bird is the full flap landings.
Just Sweet !
I've seen just about every Corsair model and they all HUNT during high speed level flight. The best part of flying this bird is the full flap landings.
Just Sweet !
#1262
RE: KMP Corsair
ORIGINAL: nzphil
Hi P51Tom,
Can you tell how long those 7/32 sq brass tubes you used on your flap system where? Looking at the photo's I would reckon about 3/8 is that about right?
I've seen that a lot of people have retractable tail wheel doors as well but haven't sen any post on how they might be done. Could do with a clue how to start.[sm=confused.gif]
Thanks,
Phil
Hi P51Tom,
Can you tell how long those 7/32 sq brass tubes you used on your flap system where? Looking at the photo's I would reckon about 3/8 is that about right?
I've seen that a lot of people have retractable tail wheel doors as well but haven't sen any post on how they might be done. Could do with a clue how to start.[sm=confused.gif]
Thanks,
Phil
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I am looking for a replacement CMP (KMP) aluminum tailwheel. I have worn mine out (the tire) and am having a problem finding a replacement tire so it looks like I have to replace the entire wheel unless someone has a suggestion. So- I am hoping that someone out there has a spare that is in good shape that they would be willing to part with.
Thanks
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#1264
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Been getting quite a few flights on my ESM F4U and enjoying it. Have changed out the motor and ESC, now running a 20x10 and it seems perfect.
Here's video clip montage from flights 3 + 4. I'm up to 8 on it now. [8D]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p4Pa...el_video_title
Here's video clip montage from flights 3 + 4. I'm up to 8 on it now. [8D]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p4Pa...el_video_title
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Made a little clip with the pilot...I need to raise the camera up a bit next time.
Enjoy. [8D]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoDyt...el_video_title
Enjoy. [8D]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoDyt...el_video_title
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I did, but I guess you can only see it through here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/scalercer?feature=mhee
Btw, that's your cockpit kit around pappy! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/user/scalercer?feature=mhee
Btw, that's your cockpit kit around pappy! ;-)
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OK, sorry for the confusion, I deleted the file and uploaded it again as public. This link should work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQxuqNakV2c
Quality will improve after it's finished it's upload.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQxuqNakV2c
Quality will improve after it's finished it's upload.
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Hi Guys,
I thought I had posted the first of my contributions of making my Corsair more scale like but it must have been another forum or it didnāt post.[sm=confused.gif]
Anyway, I donāt want the switches or air bits on view so have come up with ways of disguising them.
Thanks to Sean the sliding canopy frame works well & using the hobbyking servo slow shuts a tad faster than it opens.
Somewhere in this or one other forum somebody showed using the planes aerial as the operator of the Rx switch.
As any aerial is prone to being swiped off during transportation or when working on the fuselage I decided on a detachable one.
I started by laying up some fibreglass over the area that the rear aerial would be fitted & left it to go off.
I then cut two pieces of brass tube about 3ā long, the larger 5/16th dia, that slide within each other.
Making the inner some Ā½ā longer that the outer I gently formed them into an oval similar to that of the Ali streamline tube. Once happy with the shape I pulled them apart, easy with the Ā½ā over hang, & with a bit of adjustment with some fine wet & dry paper got then sliding within each other as before.
I then cut a piece just over an inch long off the inner one & a 1/16 wide piece off the outer one. This was super glued to the inner Ā½ā from one end. This was then pushed into a length of hard balsa the gap between the ring & balsa filled with body filler & the whole thing shaped to that of the aerial length & profile.
I thought I had posted the first of my contributions of making my Corsair more scale like but it must have been another forum or it didnāt post.[sm=confused.gif]
Anyway, I donāt want the switches or air bits on view so have come up with ways of disguising them.
Thanks to Sean the sliding canopy frame works well & using the hobbyking servo slow shuts a tad faster than it opens.
Somewhere in this or one other forum somebody showed using the planes aerial as the operator of the Rx switch.
As any aerial is prone to being swiped off during transportation or when working on the fuselage I decided on a detachable one.
I started by laying up some fibreglass over the area that the rear aerial would be fitted & left it to go off.
I then cut two pieces of brass tube about 3ā long, the larger 5/16th dia, that slide within each other.
Making the inner some Ā½ā longer that the outer I gently formed them into an oval similar to that of the Ali streamline tube. Once happy with the shape I pulled them apart, easy with the Ā½ā over hang, & with a bit of adjustment with some fine wet & dry paper got then sliding within each other as before.
I then cut a piece just over an inch long off the inner one & a 1/16 wide piece off the outer one. This was super glued to the inner Ā½ā from one end. This was then pushed into a length of hard balsa the gap between the ring & balsa filled with body filler & the whole thing shaped to that of the aerial length & profile.
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There should have been a photo at the end of the last post, never mind Iāll post all the photos at the end.
Next was to slide the inner & outer section with the aerial together & with a piece of Ali pushed between them a blunt nail was used to put a ādimpleā in them. They were then pulled apart & worked together a few times until the slid easily again but locked together with a satisfying click when the dimple engaged.
When the fibreglass was cured a previously made flat section was trimmed to shape to fit inside the curve & epoxied to the fuselage section. When doing this make sure the flat section is at the correct angle to have the aerial exiting the fuselage at the right angle, I didnāt, so my angle is a bit out but not that noticeable.
The switch was mounted on the assembly after drilling & tapping the arm with a 2mm thread.
A piece of the outer tube then set into the top of the assembly with the top of the tube proud so it would be about level or just above the fuselage when fitted.
Part of the glue that they use to fit the fuselage together must be ground away with a dremel or similar to get a good mating between the fuselage & switch assembly.
A pocket was then drilled in the bottom of the aerial section so the switch arm would not be fouled when the aerial was inserted.
The assembly was then epoxied into the fuselage, the 2mm switch arm cut to the right length & a small section of tube super glued to it to make pulling to the āoffā position easier.
The remaining pieces I kept & made a dummy aerial bottom to fit into the socket when I spray so paint doesnāt get into the tube.
Hopefully when I add the pictures it will all become a lot clearer.
Iām still waiting for my retracts & air stuff to come so Iāll post how I hid those bits when their done.
Cheers,
Phil
Next was to slide the inner & outer section with the aerial together & with a piece of Ali pushed between them a blunt nail was used to put a ādimpleā in them. They were then pulled apart & worked together a few times until the slid easily again but locked together with a satisfying click when the dimple engaged.
When the fibreglass was cured a previously made flat section was trimmed to shape to fit inside the curve & epoxied to the fuselage section. When doing this make sure the flat section is at the correct angle to have the aerial exiting the fuselage at the right angle, I didnāt, so my angle is a bit out but not that noticeable.
The switch was mounted on the assembly after drilling & tapping the arm with a 2mm thread.
A piece of the outer tube then set into the top of the assembly with the top of the tube proud so it would be about level or just above the fuselage when fitted.
Part of the glue that they use to fit the fuselage together must be ground away with a dremel or similar to get a good mating between the fuselage & switch assembly.
A pocket was then drilled in the bottom of the aerial section so the switch arm would not be fouled when the aerial was inserted.
The assembly was then epoxied into the fuselage, the 2mm switch arm cut to the right length & a small section of tube super glued to it to make pulling to the āoffā position easier.
The remaining pieces I kept & made a dummy aerial bottom to fit into the socket when I spray so paint doesnāt get into the tube.
Hopefully when I add the pictures it will all become a lot clearer.
Iām still waiting for my retracts & air stuff to come so Iāll post how I hid those bits when their done.
Cheers,
Phil
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I am now down for repairs and so I thought that I would post this as a word of warning to those of you still building. To those that are flying it is a word of warning for inspection.
My engine decided to quit in flight so, no biggy. I dropped the gear, set up for a dead stick and lined up on the runway. My speed got a little low as I was about a foot above the runway and the plane set down a little hard on the left main. Not hard enough to damage the gear or gear mounting area but hard enough to snap the wing panel joiner (which is very week plywood). The panel came completely off and stuck the rear stab taking about 2 inches off of the horizontal.
In all the damages are very minor compared to what it could have been had the joiner failed in flight. I will be replacing the wing panel a carbon fiber joiner and reinforcing the other wing.
Oh, and if anyone has a joiner that was not installed and they would like to part with, I could use a template.
My engine decided to quit in flight so, no biggy. I dropped the gear, set up for a dead stick and lined up on the runway. My speed got a little low as I was about a foot above the runway and the plane set down a little hard on the left main. Not hard enough to damage the gear or gear mounting area but hard enough to snap the wing panel joiner (which is very week plywood). The panel came completely off and stuck the rear stab taking about 2 inches off of the horizontal.
In all the damages are very minor compared to what it could have been had the joiner failed in flight. I will be replacing the wing panel a carbon fiber joiner and reinforcing the other wing.
Oh, and if anyone has a joiner that was not installed and they would like to part with, I could use a template.