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Old 12-26-2009, 10:44 AM
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Default FW-190 ARF recommendations?

Gentlemen;

I'd like to know your recommendations for a good, quality ARF of a Focke Wulf FW-190. I'm looking for something in the 60" or lightly larger wingspan range. I have available Saito engines ranging from .72 to 1.80; so engine choice won't be a problem. So; who has a recommendation from their personal experience? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 12-26-2009, 11:11 AM
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

VQ Warbirds have a 60 size 'wulf that is very nice!

[link=http://vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/vq60fw190.html]VQ Warbirds Fw-190[/link]
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VQ Warbirds have a 60 size 'wulf that is very nice!

[link=http://vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/vq60fw190.html]VQ Warbirds Fw-190[/link]
Thanks for the recommendation. It is a nice looking plane. What can you tell me about their quality; particularly the strength of the hidden glue joints? I keep hearing about joint failures on various planes; and don't want to experience it for myself. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

In comparison of looks between the two.
The Kyosho FW-190 is my choice. The proportions and dimensions seem closer on the Kyosho FW-190 than all the others.
The .72 would work great and with a little reinforcement you can use a larger powerplant if you desire.
Here's my second one.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_85...tm.htm#8676850
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

What about this? I am sure this one will fly great. http://www.airlandhobbies.com/p-6723...ta152h-90.aspx
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

You might want to take a look at this bird. Would be good for your 1.80.

http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/a.../ESMFW190.html
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What about this? I am sure this one will fly great. http://www.airlandhobbies.com/p-6723...ta152h-90.aspx
May be just in the photography, but this one just doesn't look quite right to me.
Old 12-27-2009, 12:23 AM
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I don't know.....It is a Ta 152. Not exactly an FW 190, but built on it. I like the plane...way to small for me though. I must put a gas engine in all that I fly. But, smaller gas engines are on the horzion.
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You might want to take a look at this bird. Would be good for your 1.80.

http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/a.../ESMFW190.html
It's starting to look as though the VQ ESM is the way to go for me. I prefer the looks of the FW-190 over the TA-152; and the VQ ARF looks really nice. Plus, a Saito 180, which I have on hand, seems to be the way to go with the engine.

One question is the retracts sold by Tomas. They are "air up and air down". I don't know a lot about retracts, except most of them seem to be fragile, troublesome and expensive. And, isn't "spring down, air up" a more normal setup?

Does any one have any experience with the retracts sold by Tomas? Any advice in that area? Thanks; Ernie P.
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I built the Willhobby FW190. Bought it on ebay for $130 bucks. Great flying plane, very stable and no wing failure despite having a Fuji 43cc EI gasser up front. Plane was designed for 90-120 class engine, 72" wingspan. At first, I put in a Fuji 32cc EI gasser laying around. Just not enough power for me. Plane was doing may be 70mph with it. I consider that putt putt flying. With Fuji 43cc, it was pulling 90-100mph easy. Did not have to add tail weight, just move the batteries back a bit. Plane really locks in on landing with flaps down. 2 negatives are lousy finish that cracks easily on the wings and retracts wing mounts are weak. These are pretty typical problems with Chinese ARF like Nitroplanes, GSP, CMP, etc. Just have to recover the wings and reinforce the retract mounts after a few flights and find it worth your time to do it.
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I don't know. Try Troy Built Models FW-190. 71 inch wing, same airplane as Kondor's, but for 300. Try it. I'm building one and I love it
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I don't know. Try Troy Built Models FW-190. 71 inch wing, same airplane as Kondor's, but for 300. Try it. I'm building one and I love it

The VQ ESM is also the same plane. Same price. I would order from Thomas at VQ.
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

ESM is probably the best offering for what you want. It is the most expensive of all of them, but will be the nicest airplane. You will love the Saito 180. I have one in a BUSA Fokker triplane. One thing I highly recommend is on board glow. It is almost imposible to reach the glow plug with a cowl, and it will make your idle extremely reliable. Good luck.
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ESM is probably the best offering for what you want. It is the most expensive of all of them, but will be the nicest airplane. You will love the Saito 180. I have one in a BUSA Fokker triplane. One thing I highly recommend is on board glow. It is almost imposible to reach the glow plug with a cowl, and it will make your idle extremely reliable. Good luck.
When all things are considered, it usually pays to go with the best basic kit; whatever that may be. I have to agree with the on board glow system. No sense in fussing with the cowling. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 12-27-2009, 04:40 PM
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I don't know. Try Troy Built Models FW-190. 71 inch wing, same airplane as Kondor's, but for 300. Try it. I'm building one and I love it

The VQ ESM is also the same plane. Same price. I would order from Thomas at VQ.
I think I agree with you on where to buy the ARF. I'm still hoping to find some one who has personal experience with his retract system. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

...some people in Japan use 26cc gassers in the Kyosho 90 range. The Ta152H is a Kyosho too.

I you would like to get a +80` FW190 you should have a look into German hobby shop windows. There are some diffent models aviable, 190A´s and 190D´s. Fair to say, they all are rather ARC´s. Some are in the 900$ range but most of them in the 1600$ and more.

Btw, from my experience the Kyosho 190 50 size is much better than VQ´s 190 (Dahl and Binschler or something like that). VQ used an Ultra Light aircraft looking similar to a FW190 as guideline. Do not ask my why. Maybe by mistake.
I had a VQ Hurricane 46. It was interesting to see the differences in Kyosho´s and VQ´s quality. VQ produces some very interesting aircraft. But if you get the same typ in the Kyosho shelf I would choose the Kyosho kit over VQ´s.

It´s a bit confuseing but the FW 190A produced by ESM and sold by VQ (the American retailer, not the Vietnamese manufacturer) is a quite nice looking FW190.

Personally, I would like to see an ESM FW190D (180 size or 50cc). Would be great.
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I totally agree with you Pippin. I want ESM to come out with an FW 190D-9 model also!!!!
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

I think a 190 D would be fabulous as well. Such a great flying plane and easy to balance. There is also that SV 17cc (1.00) engine that may be viable for some of these smaller planes. The warbird Arfs seem to be appearing all over now, so it is a matter of time for the D model.
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Well, i want an over 80" A8, similar D-9, and my main must have, a TA-152, about 90", but HEY, we can only do so many, 2010 will PROBABLY make all us warbird guys want loans, so much is in the pipeline, its gonna be a GREAT year!!!!!!!

My only worry, is we do the model shows over here, i am wondering just how big a truck we will have to buy!!!!!!!!! last year, we averaged about 35 models on display for the public to salivate over, orders thick and fast flow in, but we generally are busting at the seems taking just one box of each, we dont half keep the postie busy!!!!!

mind you, size isnt everything, right now, we have sunny skys, and NIL wind, SO! time for my xmas present to get air under its wings,-a parkzone P51 Mustang!!!!!! should be fun!!!!
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Default RE: FW-190 ARF recommendations?

Okay, guys; after digesting all your recommendations, and getting some advice from Tomas, I have ordered the ESM (70" wingspan) FW-190 from VQ Warbirds; with a set of Sierra retracts. I'll drop in a Saito 1.80 for power. Unfortunately, they are out of stock and I'll have to wait a bit.

In the interim, I ordered the 60 size VQ FW-190 (63" wingspan), with the mechanical retracts. I plan or powering it with a Saito .91 (Maybe a 1.20? What say you all?). It should be in the mail tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice. Thanks; Ernie P.

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