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Old 01-19-2017, 06:36 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was one of the most important of its time.
2. It was named for the base from which it first operated.
3. It was also the last of its type.
4. It was definitely a “different bird”.
5. It had a rather unusual configuration; although one that had been used before.
6. The pilot sat high up, more than fifteen feet from the ground.
7. It had a fixed undercarriage.
8. The fuselage utilized a partial aluminum monocoque design.
9. The wings were metal frame.
10. Both the fuselage and wings were fabric covered.
11. This aircraft was in active service well into WWII.
12. Twin engine.
13. Operational range less than 1,000 miles.
14. It was withdrawn from front line service in 1939, but continued to be used in other roles well into WWII.
Old 01-19-2017, 09:56 AM
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de Havilland Dominie, AKA "Dragon Rapide" ?
Old 01-19-2017, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pd1
de Havilland Dominie, AKA "Dragon Rapide" ?

No, not the Rapide. But keep trying; and here's a new clue to assist your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was one of the most important of its time.
2. It was named for the base from which it first operated.
3. It was also the last of its type.
4. It was definitely a “different bird”.
5. It had a rather unusual configuration; although one that had been used before.
6. The pilot sat high up, more than fifteen feet from the ground.
7. It had a fixed undercarriage.
8. The fuselage utilized a partial aluminum monocoque design.
9. The wings were metal frame.
10. Both the fuselage and wings were fabric covered.
11. This aircraft was in active service well into WWII.
12. Twin engine.
13. Operational range less than 1,000 miles.
14. It was withdrawn from front line service in 1939, but continued to be used in other roles well into WWII.
15. Visibility was considered to be very good.
Old 01-19-2017, 03:54 PM
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How about a B-9
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Handley Page Heyford

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Old 01-19-2017, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pd1
Handley Page Heyford

Ding, ding, ding!! And we have a winner! That's the one, pd1; the last biplane heavy bomber of the Royal Air Force. You must admit it's one ungainly aircraft; but apparently an able performer nonetheless. And now, you are up, Sir. What is your question for us? Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was one of the most important of its time.
2. It was named for the base from which it first operated.
3. It was also the last of its type.
4. It was definitely a “different bird”.
5. It had a rather unusual configuration; although one that had been used before.
6. The pilot sat high up, more than fifteen feet from the ground.
7. It had a fixed undercarriage.
8. The fuselage utilized a partial aluminum monocoque design.
9. The wings were metal frame.
10. Both the fuselage and wings were fabric covered.
11. This aircraft was in active service well into WWII.
12. Twin engine.
13. Operational range less than 1,000 miles.
14. It was withdrawn from front line service in 1939, but continued to be used in other roles well into WWII.
15. Visibility was considered to be very good.
16. Crew of four.
17. Twin tail.
18. Less than 200 produced.
19. The gun turret was of an interesting design, with a distinctive appearance and nickname.
20. Earlier models used a two bladed propeller.
21. Later models used a four bladed propeller.
22. Designed to be a heavy bomber.
23. A night bomber.


Answer: The Handley Page Heyford

The Handley Page Heyford was a twin-engine British biplane bomber of the 1930s. Although it had a short service life, it equipped several squadrons of the RAF as one of the most important British bombers of the mid-1930s, and was the last biplane heavy bomber to serve with the RAF. The aircraft was named for and first deployed at RAF Upper Heyford, near Bicester in Oxfordshire.

[h=2]Design and development[/h]The Heyford was built to meet Air Ministry specification B.19/27 for a heavy night bomber to replace the Vickers Virginia, which required a twin-engined aircraft capable of carrying 1,546 lb (700 kg) of bombs and flying 920 miles at 115 mph (185 km/h). The specification resulted in a large number of proposals being submitted by the British aircraft industry, with designs by Fairey (the Fairey Hendon) and Vickers (the Type 150 and Type 163 being built) as well as Handley Page's design. The prototype, the Handley Page HP.38, was designed by Handley Page's lead designer G. R. Volkert and first flew on 12 June 1930 at Handley Page's factory at Radlett, powered by two 525 hp (390 kW) Rolls-Royce Kestrel II engines driving two-blade propellers.
The aircraft was of mixed construction having fabric-covered, two-bay metal-frame wings, while the fuselage had an aluminium monocoque forward section with a fabric-covered frame to the rear, It had a crew of four, consisting of a pilot, a bomb aimer/navigator/gunner, a radio operator and a dorsal/ventral gunner. Open positions were provided for the pilot and both the nose and dorsal gunners. The Heyford had a novel configuration, with the fuselage attached to the upper wing — somewhat like the 1914-designed German Gotha G.I — and with the bomb bay in the thickened centre lower wing. This provided a good defensive field of fire for the nose and dorsal guns as well as the ventral retractable "dustbin" turret, each equipped with a single .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis Gun. The fixed undercarriage consisted of large, spat-covered wheels. The design allowed ground crews to safely attach bombs while the engines were running, but the result was that the pilot was some 17 ft (5 m) off the ground.
The HP.38 proved successful during service trials at Martlesham Heath and with No. 10 Squadron RAF and was chosen as the winner of the B19/27 competition, being ordered as the HP.50 Heyford. Production Heyford Is were fitted with 575 hp (429 kW) Kestrel III engines and retained the two-blade propellers, while the IAs had four-blade propellers. Engine variations marked the main Mk II and III differences; the former being equipped with 640 hp (480 kW) Kestrel IVs, supercharged to 695 hp (518 kW) in the Heyford III.

[h=2]Operational history[/h]
A Heyford of 102 Squadron at RAF Honington, 1938
The Heyford I entered service with No. 99 Squadron RAF, at RAF Upper Heyford in November 1933, and later with No. 10 Squadron and 7 Squadron, re-equipping with the Heyford IA and II in August 1934 and April 1935 respectively. As part of the RAF's Expansion scheme, orders were placed for 70 Heyford IIIs in 1936, with steam condenser-cooled Rolls-Royce Kestrel VI engines. The delivery of these aircraft allowed the RAF to have nine operational Heyford Squadrons by the end of 1936.
These squadrons of Heyfords formed the major part of Bomber Command's night bomber strength in the late 1930s. Heyfords flew many long night exercises, sometimes flying mock attacks against targets in France. Disaster struck on one of these long-range exercises on 12 December 1936, when a flight of seven Heyfords of No. 102 Squadron RAF, flying from Northern Ireland, encountered fog and icy weather conditions as they approached their base at RAF Finningley, Yorkshire. Four crashed and two had to make forced landings resulting in three crewmen killed and three injured.
The Heyford started to be replaced in 1937, with the arrival in service of Armstrong Whitworth Whitleys and Vickers Wellesleys, finally being retired from frontline service in 1939. Some remained flying until 1940 as bombing and gunnery trainers, being declared obsolete in July 1939, with two used as glider tugs until April 1941. At least two examples found experimental use; one for airborne radar and the other for inflight refuelling, and it is reported that one was still stored as late as 1944.

General characteristics
  • Crew: four (pilot, co-pilot/navigator, bomb aimer/air gunner, wireless operator/air gunner
  • Length: 58 ft (17.68 m)
  • Wingspan: 75 ft (22.87 m)
  • Height: 17 ft 6 in (5.34 m)
  • Wing area: 1,470 ft² (136.6 m²)
  • Empty weight: 9,200 lb (4,180 kg)
  • Loaded weight: 16,900 lb (7,680 kg)
  • Powerplant: 2 Χ Rolls-Royce Kestrel II-S liquid-cooled V12 engine, 525 hp (392 kW) each
Performance
  • Maximum speed: 142 mph (123 knots, 229 km/h) at 13,000 ft (3,960 m)
  • Range: 920 mi (800 nmi, 1481 km)
  • Service ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
  • Climb to 10,000 ft (3,050 m): 15.3 minutes
Armament
  • Guns: 3 Χ .303 in (7.7 mm) Lewis guns (nose, dorsal and ventral 'dustbin' positions)
  • Bombs: 2,500 lb (1,134 kg) total
Old 01-19-2017, 08:22 PM
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Leave it to Ernie to find one like that
Old 01-20-2017, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie
Leave it to Ernie to find one like that
Yeah! Ain't it cool? Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 01-20-2017, 01:24 PM
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This will have to be a quick one.
  1. It first flew in 1917.
  2. It was faster than the rest of it's class.
  3. The engine used for the prototype became unavailable for production, which led to a number of different engines used, V12, and V8 liquid cooled and a radial air cooled.
Old 01-20-2017, 01:40 PM
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I looked at that one and discounted it as being out of service in the dates described.
My next guess was Curtiss B-2
Old 01-20-2017, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
I looked at that one and discounted it as being out of service in the dates described.
My next guess was Curtiss B-2
Good guess but not the one I was looking for.
Here's a couple more clues.

  1. It first flew in 1917.
  2. It was faster than the rest of it's class.
  3. The engine used for the prototype became unavailable for production, which led to a number of different engines used, V12, and V8 liquid cooled and a radial aircooled.
  4. After the war the plane saw quite a few variants including a two seat version , a four place cabin tourer, and a floatplane.
  5. It was used by 13 countries, some used it all the way to WW II.
  6. Irish Air Service- Operated one (purchased in November 1921 to allow Michael Collins to quickly escape back to Ireland in the event of a breakdown in the negotiations for the Anglo-Irish Treaty.
Old 01-20-2017, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pd1
Good guess but not the one I was looking for.
Here's a couple more clues.

  1. It first flew in 1917.
  2. It was faster than the rest of it's class.
  3. The engine used for the prototype became unavailable for production, which led to a number of different engines used, V12, and V8 liquid cooled and a radial aircooled.
  4. After the war the plane saw quite a few variants including a two seat version , a four place cabin tourer, and a floatplane.
  5. It was used by 13 countries, some used it all the way to WW II.
  6. Irish Air Service- Operated one (purchased in November 1921 to allow Michael Collins to quickly escape back to Ireland in the event of a breakdown in the negotiations for the Anglo-Irish Treaty.
Since you seem to be in a rush, I'll have a guess. How about the Martinsyde Type A? Although the clues don't quite match up, of course. Thanks; Ernie P.


The National Army Air Service was independent Ireland'sfirst air force. During the Anglo-Irish Treaty talks of 1921, a Martinsyde Type A Mark IIbiplanewas purchased and put on 24-hour standby at CroydonAirport to allow Michael Collins to escape back to Ireland if thetalks failed. The plane was not needed for this mission, and it became thefirst aircraft of the new National Army Air Service arriving in June 1922.The National Army Air Service was established in July 1922 and was graduallyequipped with various aircraft types acquired from the R.A.F.and the Aircraft Disposal Company.This company had been formed in 1919 to dispose of surplus aircraft andaero-engines from World War I for the British Government. By the end of 1922,the National Army Air Service comprised ten aircraft, consisting of six BristolF2B fighters from the FirstWorld War and four Martinsyde F4 Fighters, and about 400 men. Itssuccessor, the Irish Army Air Corps was established in 1924 following are-organisation of the National Army at the end of the Civil War.
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We have a winner. The rest of the clues.
  1. It first flew in 1917.
  2. It was faster than the rest of it's class.
  3. The engine used for the prototype became unavailable for production, which led to a number of different engines used, V12, and V8 liquid cooled and a radial aircooled.
  4. After the war the plane saw quite a few variants including a two seat version , a four place cabin tourer, and a floatplane.
  5. It was used by 13 countries, some used it all the way to WW II.
  6. Irish Air Service- Operated one (purchased in November 1921 to allow Michael Collins to quickly escape back to Ireland in the event of a breakdown in the negotiations for the Anglo-Irish Treaty.
  7. At the end of the war, the RAF decided to go with the Sopwith Snipe because it was cheaper,even though the performance was less.
  8. A lot of the modifications were at the hands of the Aircraft Disposal Company.
  9. Many were sold to civil owners being used as Tourers, racing aircraft and for survey and seal spotting work in Canada.
  10. 100 were exported to Russia.




Martinside F4 Buzzard

[h=2]Operational history[/h]Despite the very limited production, four of the six Martinsyde F.3s ordered were issued to Home Defence squadrons of the RAF in 1918, with two being operated by No. 39 Squadron RAF on 8 July 1918[SUP][5][/SUP] and one used by 141 Squadron.[SUP][12][/SUP] The RAF received 57 F.4 Buzzards before the end of the First World War, but these did not reach operational squadrons. In the immediate post war period, two Buzzards were used as high speed communications aircraft in support of the British delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, while a few other Buzzards were used at the Central Flying School.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP]
While the postwar RAF did not want the Buzzard, Martinsyde had more success selling the Buzzard overseas, with single and two-seat versions being sold to a number of air forces, including those of Spain (30 aircraft), Finland (15 aircraft) and the Soviet Union (100 aircraft).[SUP][15][/SUP] Some of these aircraft had long careers, with six of the Spanish Buzzards remaining in service at the start of the Spanish Civil War.[SUP][16][/SUP] Following the bankruptcy of Martinsyde, the Aircraft Disposal Company managed to sell eight Jaguar engined versions, the ADC.1 to Latvia, two of these remaining in service until 1938.[SUP][15][/SUP]
Many Martinsydes were sold to civil owners being used as Tourers, racing aircraft and for survey and seal spotting work in Canada.[SUP][17][/SUP]

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Originally Posted by pd1
We have a winner. The rest of the clues.
  1. It first flew in 1917.
  2. It was faster than the rest of it's class.
  3. The engine used for the prototype became unavailable for production, which led to a number of different engines used, V12, and V8 liquid cooled and a radial aircooled.
  4. After the war the plane saw quite a few variants including a two seat version , a four place cabin tourer, and a floatplane.
  5. It was used by 13 countries, some used it all the way to WW II.
  6. Irish Air Service- Operated one (purchased in November 1921 to allow Michael Collins to quickly escape back to Ireland in the event of a breakdown in the negotiations for the Anglo-Irish Treaty.
  7. At the end of the war, the RAF decided to go with the Sopwith Snipe because it was cheaper,even though the performance was less.
  8. A lot of the modifications were at the hands of the Aircraft Disposal Company.
  9. Many were sold to civil owners being used as Tourers, racing aircraft and for survey and seal spotting work in Canada.
  10. 100 were exported to Russia.



Martinside F4 Buzzard

Operational history

Despite the very limited production, four of the six Martinsyde F.3s ordered were issued to Home Defence squadrons of the RAF in 1918, with two being operated by No. 39 Squadron RAF on 8 July 1918[SUP][5][/SUP] and one used by 141 Squadron.[SUP][12][/SUP] The RAF received 57 F.4 Buzzards before the end of the First World War, but these did not reach operational squadrons. In the immediate post war period, two Buzzards were used as high speed communications aircraft in support of the British delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, while a few other Buzzards were used at the Central Flying School.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP]
While the postwar RAF did not want the Buzzard, Martinsyde had more success selling the Buzzard overseas, with single and two-seat versions being sold to a number of air forces, including those of Spain (30 aircraft), Finland (15 aircraft) and the Soviet Union (100 aircraft).[SUP][15][/SUP] Some of these aircraft had long careers, with six of the Spanish Buzzards remaining in service at the start of the Spanish Civil War.[SUP][16][/SUP] Following the bankruptcy of Martinsyde, the Aircraft Disposal Company managed to sell eight Jaguar engined versions, the ADC.1 to Latvia, two of these remaining in service until 1938.[SUP][15][/SUP]
Many Martinsydes were sold to civil owners being used as Tourers, racing aircraft and for survey and seal spotting work in Canada.[SUP][17][/SUP]

Thank you, Sir. I'll have something up this evening or tomorrow morning. Good subject matter, BTW. Thanks; Ernie P.
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Okay; let's see if this one will fall quickly or slowly. I'm thinking somewhere in between. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
Old 01-21-2017, 02:54 AM
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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
4. This aircraft first flew in 1935.
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Heinkel 111?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyS
Heinkel 111?
Not the He 111, Johnny; but you did earn an extra clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
4. This aircraft first flew in 1935.
5. This aircraft set a number of distance/speed records.
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And another clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
4. This aircraft first flew in 1935.
5. This aircraft set a number of distance/speed records.
6. One of these aircraft set a distance record, flying over 5,000 miles from start point.
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Russian ANT 25
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Russian ANT 25
Good to hear from you, uncljoe. Not the answer which I seek, but not a bad answer. Perhaps the next clue will narrow your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
4. This aircraft first flew in 1935.
5. This aircraft set a number of distance/speed records.
6. One of these aircraft set a distance record, flying over 5,000 miles from start point.
7. This was a development of an earlier type.
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one more guess Piaggio P 23M
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Originally Posted by uncljoe
one more guess Piaggio P 23M

Sorry, Sir; but you're 0 for 2. But don't give up; because every competitor is potentially a winner and every guess is rewarded. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1. This aircraft was the most important of its type, at the time, for its military.
2. But it was also the only one of its type, at the time, in its military.
3. It was developed for the military, but much of the testing was conducted by a civil aviation business.
4. This aircraft first flew in 1935.
5. This aircraft set a number of distance/speed records.
6. One of these aircraft set a distance record, flying over 5,000 miles from start point.
7. This was a development of an earlier type.
8. Two engines.
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