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Old 03-22-2020, 05:28 PM
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I was thinking the B-36 originally, then I saw "two seater". Maybe the Defiant "turret fighter"?
Old 03-22-2020, 07:22 PM
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On the first guess cold as ice on the second you are getting a little warmer.
I am looking for a Warbird.

1. This airplane was a failure but it still made it into large scale production.
2. The large number built left leaders no choice to continue to deploy it.
3. Development was based on a combat doctrine found to be out of date.
4. It is a two seater.
5. The airplane had one obvious feature the manufacturer was known for.
6. The airplane was reasonably good at what it was designed to do but a change in the expected enemy tactics caused it to fail.
7. The airplane was flown by multiple nations.
Old 03-22-2020, 07:53 PM
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I realized the B-36 was not an option after I started to type my post. While it wasn't a technical failure, it wasn't really successful design either. It did win one battle though. It was touted as a world beating nuclear bomber by the manufacturer and the USAF and, after a bitter battle against the Navy, it was put into production while the new aircraft carrier USS United States was cancelled and scrapped only 5 days after being laid down
Old 03-23-2020, 04:34 AM
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They have a B-36 on display in Dayton its a beast!

Morning clue. I am looking for a Warbird.

1. This airplane was a failure but it still made it into large scale production.
2. The large number built left leaders no choice to continue to deploy it.
3. Development was based on a combat doctrine found to be out of date.
4. It is a two seater.
5. The airplane had one obvious feature the manufacturer was known for.
6. The airplane was reasonably good at what it was designed to do but a change in the expected enemy tactics caused it to fail.
7. The airplane was flown by multiple nations.
8. A number of orders were place after the initial production order was completed.
Old 03-23-2020, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
They have a B-36 on display in Dayton its a beast!

Morning clue. I am looking for a Warbird.

1. This airplane was a failure but it still made it into large scale production.
2. The large number built left leaders no choice to continue to deploy it.
3. Development was based on a combat doctrine found to be out of date.
4. It is a two seater.
5. The airplane had one obvious feature the manufacturer was known for.
6. The airplane was reasonably good at what it was designed to do but a change in the expected enemy tactics caused it to fail.
7. The airplane was flown by multiple nations.
8. A number of orders were place after the initial production order was completed.
I have a hunch we're going to ultimately disagree on what "failure" means; but how about the Stuka? Thanks; Ernie P.


The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka (from Sturzkampfflugzeug, "dive bomber") was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft. Designed by Hermann Pohlmann, it first flew in 1935. The Ju 87 made its combat debut in 1937 with the Luftwaffe's Condor Legion during the Spanish Civil War and served the Axis forces in World War II.

The aircraft is easily recognisable by its inverted gull wings and fixed spatted undercarriage. Upon the leading edges of its faired main gear legs were mounted the Jericho-Trompete (Jericho trumpet) wailing sirens, becoming the propaganda symbol of German air power and the so-called blitzkrieg victories of 1939–1942. The Stuka's design included several innovations, including automatic pull-up dive brakes under both wings to ensure that the aircraft recovered from its attack dive even if the pilot blacked out from the high g-forces.

The Ju 87 operated with considerable success in close air support and anti-shipping at the outbreak of World War II. It led air assaults in the invasion of Poland in September 1939. Stukas were critical to the rapid conquest of Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium and France in 1940. Sturdy, accurate, and very effective against ground targets, the Stuka was, like many other dive bombers of the period, vulnerable to fighter aircraft. During the Battle of Britain, its lack of manoeuvrability, speed and defensive armament meant that it required a heavy fighter escort to operate effectively.

After the Battle of Britain, the Stuka was used in the Balkans Campaign, the African and Mediterranean theatres and the early stages of the Eastern Front, where it was used for general ground support, as an effective specialised anti-tank aircraft and in an anti-shipping role. Once the Luftwaffe lost air superiority, the Stuka became an easy target for enemy fighter aircraft. It was produced until 1944 for lack of a better replacement. By 1945 ground-attack versions of the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 had largely replaced the Ju 87, but it remained in service until the end of the war.

An estimated 6,500 Ju 87s of all versions were built between 1936 and August 1944.

Oberst Hans-Ulrich Rudel was the most successful Stuka pilot and the most highly decorated German serviceman of the Second World War.
Old 03-23-2020, 08:36 AM
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Nope not the Junkers or the Stuka but you do get another clue and a noon time clue. I am looking for a Warbird.

1. This airplane was a failure but it still made it into large scale production.
2. The large number built left leaders no choice to continue to deploy it.
3. Development was based on a combat doctrine found to be out of date.
4. It is a two seater.
5. The airplane had one obvious feature the manufacturer was known for.
6. The airplane was reasonably good at what it was designed to do but a change in the expected enemy tactics caused it to fail.
7. The airplane was flown by multiple nations.
8. A number of orders were place after the initial production order was completed.
9. Nearly 3/4 of the total aircraft produced were in service when the decision was made to upgrade the engine in response to a service request which sought greater performance.
10. The feature mention in clue No. 5 was actually design prewar by a different aviation company in another country. The rights were purchased on the cheap.
Old 03-23-2020, 11:05 AM
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I know Hydro and Ernie are racking their brains so I thought I'll drop a little hint. I am probably giving it away with this one so you lurkers need to be fast on the draw!
I am looking for a Warbird.

1. This airplane was a failure but it still made it into large scale production.
2. The large number built left leaders no choice to continue to deploy it.
3. Development was based on a combat doctrine found to be out of date.
4. It is a two seater.
5. The airplane had one obvious feature the manufacturer was known for.
6. The airplane was reasonably good at what it was designed to do but a change in the expected enemy tactics caused it to fail.
7. The airplane was flown by multiple nations.
8. A number of orders were place after the initial production order was completed.
9. Nearly 3/4 of the total aircraft produced were in service when the decision was made to upgrade the engine in response to a service request which sought greater performance.
10. The feature mention in clue No. 5 was actually design prewar by a different aviation company in another country. The rights were purchased on the cheap.
11. Hydro Junkie was really in the neighborhood with a previous guess.
Old 03-23-2020, 11:22 AM
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Wait a minute, you said I was "getting a little warmer" with my Defiant guess
Now you're saying I was "really in the neighborhood with a previous guess"
Which is it? Am I really in the neighborhood or just a little warmer than the B-36?

Old 03-23-2020, 11:30 AM
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It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood....
Old 03-23-2020, 11:45 AM
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Damn, some people's kids
Old 03-23-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
Damn, some people's kids
Get back to work you bum before Ernie beats you to the answer!
Old 03-23-2020, 01:02 PM
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Actually, I am at work. I can almost look over my left shoulder and see the Poseidons being built
Old 03-23-2020, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
Get back to work you bum before Ernie beats you to the answer!
When you made that hint about Hydro Junkie's guess of the Defiant "being a little closer", I considered the Blackburn Roc and the Hawker Hotspur. But those were not produced in any quantity. And I considered the Beaufighter, which took over the Defiant's role as a long range fighter. But, I decided the Beaufighter wasn't a failure by any means. That's what I meant when I said "I have a hunch we're going to ultimately disagree on what 'failure' means". But, I guess the Beaufighter could qualify as a failure if you consider only its performance as a long range daylight fighter. So..... Thanks; Ernie P.


Answer: The Beaufighter.


The Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter (often called the Beau) is a multi-role aircraft developed during the Second World War by the Bristol Aeroplane Company in the UK. It was originally conceived as a heavy fighter variant of the Bristol Beaufort torpedo bomber. The Beaufighter proved to be an effective night fighter, which came into service with the Royal Air Force (RAF) during the Battle of Britain, its large size allowing it to carry heavy armament and early airborne interception radar without major performance penalties.

The Beaufighter was used in many roles; receiving the nicknames Rockbeau for its use as a rocket-armed ground attack aircraft and Torbeau as a torpedo bomber against Axis shipping, in which it replaced the Beaufort. In later operations, it served mainly as a maritime strike/ground attack aircraft, RAF Coastal Command having operated the largest number of Beaufighters amongst all other commands at one point. The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) also made extensive use of the type as an anti-shipping aircraft, such as during the Battle of the Bismarck Sea.

The Beaufighter saw extensive service during the war with the RAF (59 squadrons), Fleet Air Arm (15 squadrons), RAAF (seven squadrons), Royal Canadian Air Force (four squadrons), United States Army Air Forces (four squadrons), Royal New Zealand Air Force (two squadrons), South African Air Force (two squadrons) and Polskie Siły Powietrzne (Free Polish Air Force; one squadron). Variants of the Beaufighter were manufactured in Australia by the Department of Aircraft Production (DAP); such aircraft are sometimes referred to by the name DAP Beaufighter.
Old 03-23-2020, 02:39 PM
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OK I screwed up! I was confusing the maker's name with the name of the company and the aircraft nickname "Daffy" and not looking at the official name the Defiant! I plead a combination of medication and feeling like crap. Hydro a thousand pardons, you are the winner and next up! Here is an excerpt from this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulton_Paul_DefiantThe Boulton Paul Defiant is a British interceptor aircraft that served with the Royal Air Force (RAF) during World War II. The Defiant was designed and built by Boulton Paul Aircraft as a "turret fighter", without any forward-firing guns, also found in the Blackburn Roc of the Royal Navy.

In combat, the Defiant was found to be reasonably effective at destroying bombers but was vulnerable to the Luftwaffe's more manoeuvrable, single-seat Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighters. The lack of forward-firing armament proved to be a great weakness in daylight combat and its potential was realised only when it was converted to night fighting.[2] It was supplanted as a night fighter by the Bristol Beaufighter and de Havilland Mosquito. The Defiant found use in gunnery training, target towing, electronic countermeasures and air-sea rescue. Among RAF pilots it had the nickname "Daffy"
Old 03-23-2020, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerInOKC View Post
OK I screwed up! I was confusing the maker's name with the name of the company and the aircraft nickname "Daffy" and not looking at the official name the Defiant! I plead a combination of medication and feeling like crap. Hydro a thousand pardons, you are the winner and next up! Here is an excerpt from this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulton_Paul_DefiantThe Boulton Paul Defiant is a British interceptor aircraft that served with the Royal Air Force (RAF) during World War II. The Defiant was designed and built by Boulton Paul Aircraft as a "turret fighter", without any forward-firing guns, also found in the Blackburn Roc of the Royal Navy.

In combat, the Defiant was found to be reasonably effective at destroying bombers but was vulnerable to the Luftwaffe's more manoeuvrable, single-seat Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighters. The lack of forward-firing armament proved to be a great weakness in daylight combat and its potential was realised only when it was converted to night fighting.[2] It was supplanted as a night fighter by the Bristol Beaufighter and de Havilland Mosquito. The Defiant found use in gunnery training, target towing, electronic countermeasures and air-sea rescue. Among RAF pilots it had the nickname "Daffy"
Okay; no harm, no foul. We all make mistakes; and now I don't have to be up again. We all win! Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 03-24-2020, 09:35 AM
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Okay guys, took me a while, BUT I FOUND A SUBJECT AIRCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!
That said, it's time for some clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
Good Luck
Old 03-24-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
Okay guys, took me a while, BUT I FOUND A SUBJECT AIRCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!
That said, it's time for some clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
Good Luck
How about the Swordfish, or Stringbag? Thanks; Ernie P.

The Fairey Swordfish is a biplane torpedo bomber designed by the Fairey Aviation Company. Originating in the early 1930s, the Swordfish, nicknamed "Stringbag", was operated by the Fleet Air Arm of the Royal Navy, in addition to having been equipped by the Royal Air Force (RAF) alongside multiple overseas operators, including the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) and the Royal Netherlands Navy. It was initially operated primarily as a fleet attack aircraft. During its later years, the Swordfish became increasingly used as an anti-submarine and training platform. The type was in frontline service throughout the Second World War.

Nonetheless, the Swordfish achieved some spectacular successes during the war. Notable events included sinking one battleship and damaging two others of the Regia Marina (the Italian Navy) during the Battle of Taranto, and the famous attack on the Bismarck, which contributed to her eventual demise. By the end of the war, the Swordfish held the distinction of having caused the destruction of a greater tonnage of Axis shipping than any other Allied aircraft. The Swordfish remained in front-line service until V-E Day, having outlived multiple aircraft that had been intended to replace it in service.
Old 03-24-2020, 12:17 PM
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Sorry Ernie, not the "Stringbag". Time for more clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
Good Luck
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Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie View Post
Sorry Ernie, not the "Stringbag". Time for more clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
Good Luck
So far at least, the Bf 110 would seem to fit all the clues. Thanks; Ernie P.

The Messerschmitt Bf 110, often known unofficially as the Me 110, is a twin-engine Zerstörer (Destroyer, heavy fighter) and fighter-bomber (Jagdbomber or Jabo) developed in Nazi Germany in the 1930s and used by the Luftwaffe during World War II. Hermann Göring was a proponent of the Bf 110. It was armed with two MG FF 20 mm cannon, four 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 17 machine guns, and one 7.92 mm (.312 in) MG 15 machine gun (later variants’ rear gunner station would be armed with the twin-barreled MG 81Z) for defence. Development work on an improved type to replace the Bf 110, the Messerschmitt Me 210 began before the war started but its teething troubles resulted in the Bf 110 soldiering on until the end of the war in various roles, with its replacements, the Me 210 and the significantly improved Me 410 Hornisse.

The Bf 110 served with considerable success in the early campaigns in Poland, Norway and France. The primary weakness of the Bf 110 was its lack of maneuverability, although this could be mitigated with the better tactics. This weakness was exploited when flying as close escort to German bombers during the Battle of Britain. When British bombers began targeting German territory with nightly raids, some Bf 110-equipped units were converted to night fighters, a role to which the aircraft was well suited. After the Battle of Britain the Bf 110 enjoyed a successful period as an air superiority fighter and strike aircraft in other theatres and defended Germany from strategic air attack by day against the USAAF's 8th Air Force, until an American change in fighter tactics rendered them increasingly vulnerable to developing American air supremacy over the Reich as 1944 began.

During the Balkans and North African campaigns and on the Eastern Front, it rendered valuable ground support to the German Army as a potent fighter-bomber. Later in the war, it was developed into a formidable radar-equipped night fighter, becoming the main night-fighting aircraft of the Luftwaffe. Most of the German night fighter aces flew the Bf 110 at some point during their combat careers and the top night fighter ace, Major Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer, flew it exclusively and claimed 121 victories in 164 sorties.
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Not the 110, Ernie, as the next set of clues will show:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
6) The subject aircraft was powered by a single engine
7) The subject aircraft was armed with both machine guns and cannon

Good Luck
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No guesses? Looks like it's time for more clues
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
6) The subject aircraft was powered by a single engine
7) The subject aircraft was armed with both machine guns and cannon
8) The subject aircraft was reasonably fast, for what it was
9) The subject aircraft was similar to a famous aircraft of similar characteristics used by an allie, but was superior in speed and range

Good Luck
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Still no guesses? Time for another pair of clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
6) The subject aircraft was powered by a single engine
7) The subject aircraft was armed with both machine guns and cannon
8) The subject aircraft was reasonably fast, for what it was
9) The subject aircraft was similar to a famous aircraft of similar characteristics used by an allie, but was superior in speed and range
10) Like the allies more famous aircraft, the subject aircraft also used a radial engine
11) The subject aircraft was such a successful design, over a thousand were produced during it's production run

Good Luck
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Time for another clue since there are no guesses:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
6) The subject aircraft was powered by a single engine
7) The subject aircraft was armed with both machine guns and cannon
8) The subject aircraft was reasonably fast, for what it was
9) The subject aircraft was similar to a famous aircraft of similar characteristics used by an allie, but was superior in speed and range
10) Like the allies more famous aircraft, the subject aircraft also used a radial engine
11) The subject aircraft was such a successful design, over a thousand were produced during it's production run
12 Most of the subject aircraft production run was lost due to enemy defensive fire, CAP and it's use in "special mission" type squadrons

Good Luck
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No guesses yet? I'm almost surprised(not that I should be) that only Ernie has taken a shot at it. Time for more clues:
1) The subject aircraft carried a crew of three
2) The subject aircraft was used in multiple rolls
3) The subject aircraft flew from the beginning to the end of it's war
4) The subject aircraft was a low wing monoplane
5) The subject aircraft was flown by countries on both sides during and after it's war
6) The subject aircraft was powered by a single engine
7) The subject aircraft was armed with both machine guns and cannon
8) The subject aircraft was reasonably fast, for what it was
9) The subject aircraft was similar to a famous aircraft of similar characteristics used by an allie, but was superior in speed and range
10) Like the allies more famous aircraft, the subject aircraft also used a radial engine
11) The subject aircraft was such a successful design, over a thousand were produced during it's production run
12) Most of the subject aircraft production run was lost due to enemy defensive fire, CAP and it's use in "special mission" type squadrons
13) The subject aircraft could carry a 551lb bomb or a depth charge for antisubmarine patrols
14) The subject aircraft's first missions were ground attack, dropping bombs on ground targets from bases it didn't normally use

Good Luck
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OK, I'll take a shot at it. How about the Aichi E13A "Jake"?

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