Top_Gunn

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It is indeed the T2V, which could easily be mistaken for a T-33 at first glance, but the fuselage in profile is quite different because it's deeper and the back of the canopy is higher, to give the instructor a better view. The "family"" referred to in the clues is of course the P-80, T-33, F-94, T2V group, along with Boeing's Skyfox, which nobody ordered.

I look forward to having my brain fried by Ernie yet again.

Ernie P.

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Sir; you have my apology. I wasn't at all offended by anything you wrote. I suppose I should have used a better term than "in vain". Maybe just "Using my name"? No, that's not right either. Maybe "using me as an example"? To tell the truth, I can't think of a way to exactly express what I was trying to say. It was intended as a friendly jest or poke at you; not as a slight. Maybe that's it! I think "using my name in jest" better describes what I was trying to express. Trust me: I think too much of you, your contributions to my own knowledge and your opinions to want to offend you. Again, my apologies. It was simply a poorly worded statement. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Thanks, Al. I think you did an excellent job of baffling us with that question. And I think my next question will be pretty easy for you guys to figure out. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.

Hydro Junkie

No apology needed in this case. To be honest, I wasn't sure if I had said something wrong or not so my last post was made with a heavy dose of caution. I've found that many today are easily offended by what is said, either face to face or in a post in an internet thread, so much so in fact that I've actually had people try to get me fired from my job just for asking a question. I didn't think I had said something wrong but, in dealing with a bunch of thin skinned "Momma's Boys" at work where, unfortunately, anything that isn't exactly PC gets a response of complaining to HR or the company's "ethics board" to eliminate the "offender", I was trying to not do the same here. I hope that makes sense

Hydro Junkie

How about the AV-8A Harrier?

Ernie P.

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Sir; it makes perfect sense. I'm old enough, and experienced enough, not to take offense easily. If some one I consider to be a friend makes a comment that bothers me, I usually just mentally shrug and tell myself "I must have misunderstood; he's not that type of person". Or, if I really don't think that's the case, I just ask "Exactly what did you mean by that"? I have pretty thick skin; and I really don't think any of our little group is in the habit of deliberately offending anyone. And I've observed your writing long enough to know that simply isn't your style. I was simply poking fun at your comment and worded my response poorly. No harm, no foul. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Not the Harrier; but here's a bonus clue to aid your search. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.

elmshoot

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T-28

Hydro Junkie

I'm thinking the Me-262 twin seat trainer or the T-33, both of which were the first trainers powered by turbojet engines

Ernie P.

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Not the T-28, Me-262 or the T-33. But here's a couple of bonus clues to speed things along. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.

Hydro Junkie

How about the T-6 Texan? It was used for spotting and many were shot down while performing that roll

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

A good guess, Sir; but not where we are heading. Here's a bonus clue to reward your participation and an evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.

Hydro Junkie

A trainer that got shot to ribbons in combat that later was used as a communications tool? Okay, once again I'm totally lost
And, with that last comment, I can just see Ernie GRINNING from ear to ear

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Well.... YEAH! After all; that is the idea, right? Don't worry, Sir; it will become more clear as we go along. And I do have some ....interesting.... clues coming up. And just to show you I do have a heart, here's a bonus clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.

JohnnyS

The B.E.2?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_..._Factory_B.E.2

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Not the B.E.2, Johnny; but here's a bonus clue to accompany the regularly scheduled afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.



14. And very light.

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.



14. And very light.



15. It used two contra rotating propellers.

elmshoot

My Feedback: (6)

H-25 HUP Piesecki configuration of propellers

Sparky

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Not correct, Sparky; but I'll award you a bonus clue for your efforts. Please try again. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.



14. And very light.



15. It used two contra rotating propellers.



16. For its single engine.

Ernie P.

My Feedback: (3)

Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.




What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.



14. And very light.



15. It used two contra rotating propellers.



16. For its single engine.



17. And it had a greater than normal amount of dihedral.

Fidd88

I think this is a WWI if not pre-war aircraft, with a single engine and chain-drives operating two props. I suspect it may have been one of the 1st flown by a woman. What it might be exactly I wouldn't know - not my period. But that may spark some insight?

Ernie P.

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Well; let's see, Sir. It was not a WWI aircraft and it was ordered into production during WWII. I'm not sure if it was ever flown by a woman; but if it was, that is purely incidental to the question. But I'll still award a bonus clue for your efforts and include an evening clue as well. Please try again. Thanks; Ernie P.


What warbird do I describe?



1. This aircraft was the first of its type.



2. Actually, there had been similar “one offs” and “prototypes” previously; but this was the first truly “finished product” deemed worthy of being put into production.



3. And there were certainly a lot of them produced.



4. This aircraft was unarmed.



5. Although that didn’t keep quite a few of them from being shot to pieces.



6. The loss rate for this aircraft was staggering.



7. Few of them survived the war.



8. It was mainly used in a training role.



9. Although it was later used, after the war, as a communication tool.



10. And yet this, at the time almost unique, aircraft has been largely forgotten; although it certainly was a harbinger of things to come.



11. And, as an aside issue, it had somewhat of a role in changing the social mores and norms of the time.



12. You might say “A star was born”.



13. It was a small aircraft.



14. And very light.



15. It used two contra rotating propellers.



16. For its single engine.



17. And it had a greater than normal amount of dihedral.



18. It featured a large, for the size, vertical stabilizer and rudder.



19. There is at least one of these planes, and engines, on display in at least one museum today.