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Old 07-07-2021, 07:48 AM
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Johnny; you have a PM. Thanks; Ernie P.
Old 07-07-2021, 12:09 PM
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1. They made a lot of these.

2. They were used by the militaries of over 15 countries.

3. The military uses for this aircraft included being used for aerial surveillance and monitoring of land-based escort tasks, in addition to army cooperation and pilot training.

4. This aircraft has a large number of "supplemental type certificates".

5. Holds a couple of interesting world records.

6. Crew of one.

7. Up to three passengers.

8. Over the decades, many special versions of this aircraft have been proposed and sometimes produced. Nevertheless, it remains in production today.

9. Uses a NACA airfoil.

10. An incident involving one of these aircraft caused a change in the Moscow police radio codes.

11. In 1964, the manufacturer replaced fuses with circuit breakers in the production version of this aircraft.

12. As introduced, it had a 6 cylinder engine. Later in production, this was changed to a 4 cylinder engine with slightly more horsepower.
Old 07-08-2021, 07:07 PM
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1. They made a lot of these.

2. They were used by the militaries of over 15 countries.

3. The military uses for this aircraft included being used for aerial surveillance and monitoring of land-based escort tasks, in addition to army cooperation and pilot training.

4. This aircraft has a large number of "supplemental type certificates".

5. Holds a couple of interesting world records.

6. Crew of one.

7. Up to three passengers.

8. Over the decades, many special versions of this aircraft have been proposed and sometimes produced. Nevertheless, it remains in production today.

9. Uses a NACA airfoil.

10. An incident involving one of these aircraft caused a change in the Moscow police radio codes.

11. In 1964, the manufacturer replaced fuses with circuit breakers in the production version of this aircraft.

12. As introduced, it had a 6 cylinder engine. Later in production, this was changed to a 4 cylinder engine with slightly more horsepower.

13. See clue #1. Really!

14. As a civilian aircraft, changes were made to the empennage for marketing reasons: The performance of the aircraft was negatively affected, but the sales went up. Go figure.
Old 07-09-2021, 04:31 AM
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1. They made a lot of these.

2. They were used by the militaries of over 15 countries.

3. The military uses for this aircraft included being used for aerial surveillance and monitoring of land-based escort tasks, in addition to army cooperation and pilot training.

4. This aircraft has a large number of "supplemental type certificates".

5. Holds a couple of interesting world records.

6. Crew of one.

7. Up to three passengers.

8. Over the decades, many special versions of this aircraft have been proposed and sometimes produced. Nevertheless, it remains in production today.

9. Uses a NACA airfoil.

10. An incident involving one of these aircraft caused a change in the Moscow police radio codes.

11. In 1964, the manufacturer replaced fuses with circuit breakers in the production version of this aircraft.

12. As introduced, it had a 6 cylinder engine. Later in production, this was changed to a 4 cylinder engine with slightly more horsepower.

13. See clue #1. Really!

14. As a civilian aircraft, changes were made to the empennage for marketing reasons: The performance of the aircraft was negatively affected, but the sales went up. Go figure.

15. As a trainer, it tends to be nose-heavy when only the front seats are occupied. Apparently this makes it more difficult than other trainers to flare on landings, leading to a higher landing accident rate than other trainers.

16. The prototype’s first flight occurred in June of 1955.

Let's have some guesses, people!!!!
Old 07-09-2021, 04:58 AM
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OK, I'll bite. Looks like the Cessna 172 (T-41 when used by the army and air force). Seems odd that the ugly tail helped marketing.
Old 07-09-2021, 07:21 AM
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I was thinking the 182 myself. That said, you're probably right with the 172.
Old 07-09-2021, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn
OK, I'll bite. Looks like the Cessna 172 (T-41 when used by the army and air force). Seems odd that the ugly tail helped marketing.
Ding, Ding Ding!!! We have a winner! Well done, sir.

After all the obscure and odd warbirds we have seen here, I thought I would try a quiz for a plain vanilla bird and see what happens. I'm really surprised it got this far, to be frank.

References:
Cessna 172 - Wikipedia
Mathias Rust - Wikipedia
10 Facts You Didn't Know About The Cessna 172 Skyhawk | Boldmethod
Cessna 172 Skyhawk

The single most produced aircraft in history.
Old 07-09-2021, 02:14 PM
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Good quiz! The Moscow clue and clue 13 were what finally worked for me, although it took my aging brain some time to see the point. For quite a while I had the notion that it might be a helicopter, which led to a lot of looking for interesting helicopter records. I'll get what looks to be a fairly short quiz up tomorrow.
Old 07-09-2021, 02:23 PM
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Just to be clear on clue #5: The records I was referring to are (1) the most produced aircraft of all time, and the (2) the world record for crewed and refueled flight endurance at 64 days, 22 hours, 19 minutes and 5 seconds in flight.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172#World_records

Also for clue #14, here's the comment: "The 172A, with the vertical tail swept, was introduced in 1960. The new empennage was heavier; rudder power was reduced and directional stability was degraded somewhat all in favor of marketing. The fastback fuselage blended with the swept tail looked cool."

Reference: https://www.avweb.com/features/cessna-172-skyhawk/
Old 07-10-2021, 06:07 AM
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Here's a "name the pilot" quiz. He's fairly well known, but I don't remember his being the subject of a quiz before. To be sure, there's a lot I don't remember.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.
Old 07-11-2021, 04:16 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.
Old 07-12-2021, 04:51 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.
Old 07-13-2021, 04:10 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.
Old 07-14-2021, 04:08 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.
Old 07-15-2021, 04:08 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.
Old 07-16-2021, 04:22 AM
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Today's clue, which is primarily meant to help avoid a mistake which could easily be made by people who, like me, use Wikipedia as a source for information about potential answers.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.
Old 07-17-2021, 04:11 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.
Old 07-18-2021, 04:56 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.
Old 07-19-2021, 04:03 AM
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Today's clue. I'm about to run out of clues.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.

12. He was born in 1892.
Old 07-20-2021, 04:10 AM
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Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.

12. He was born in 1892.

13. About two months before the end of his first war he was awarded the military version of his country's highest decoration.
Old 07-21-2021, 04:04 AM
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I wish somebody would solve this!

Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.

12. He was born in 1892.

13. About two months before the end of his first war he was awarded the military version of his country's highest decoration.

14. His first war was World War I.
Old 07-21-2021, 04:25 PM
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Here's tomorrow morning's clue and Friday's clue as well, because I'll probably be too busy to post for a while..

Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.

12. He was born in 1892.

13. About two months before the end of his first war he was awarded the military version of his country's highest decoration.

14. His first war was World War I.

15. His third war was World War II.

16. His second war was not the Spanish Civil War, but you probably knew that already.
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn
Here's tomorrow morning's clue and Friday's clue as well, because I'll probably be too busy to post for a while..

Today's clue.

Looking for the name of a pilot.

1. Shortly after his first war began he tried to enlist in the army and was rejected.

2. So he joined the navy, and after a while became a pilot.

3. And by the end of his career he had flown in three wars.

4. He let the navy after his first war and served in a different branch in his third. I have found very little information about his unit in his second war, but I'll keep looking.

5. He was an ace several times over in his first war. In his second war it appears that no one in his unit shot down enemy aircraft, probably because the enemy had few aircraft to shoot down. In his third war, he claimed more than five kills, but some were not confirmed.

6. He stopped flying in combat at the age of 48, when he was promoted to general.

7. About five months before the end of his third war, he had a serious disagreement with higher authority, and he was dismissed from the service.

8. He fought on the losing side in all three of his wars.

9. He has a Wikipedia page in English, and a longer one in his native language. The English-language page makes no mention of the second of his three wars, although a couple of other sources in English do.

10. His second war was a civil war.

11. It was an unusual civil war in several respects. It took place in more than one country, and as many as five different armies participated. Several foreign countries sent troops as well.

12. He was born in 1892.

13. About two months before the end of his first war he was awarded the military version of his country's highest decoration.

14. His first war was World War I.

15. His third war was World War II.

16. His second war was not the Spanish Civil War, but you probably knew that already.


Since you're getting busy with other things, I'll take a shot. How about Theodor Osterkamp? Thanks; Ernie P.


Answer: Theodor Osterkamp



Theodor "Theo" Osterkamp (15 April 1892 – 2 January 1975)[2] was a German fighter pilot during World War I and World War II. A flying ace, he achieved 32 victories in World War I.[3] In World War II, he led Jagdgeschwader 51 through the Battle of Britain and claimed a further 6 victories, in the process becoming one of only a few men to score victories in both world wars.



Osterkamp was born in Aschersleben,[4] modern day Saxony-Anhalt. When the First World War started he was studying forestry but decided to enlist in the German Army.[4] He was rejected for service due to his "slight build"[4] and he instead enlisted in the Marinefliegerkorps in August 1914.[4] He then flew with the 2. Marine-Fliegerabteilung in Flanders. During 1915–1916, he served as an air observer, and became the first German pilot to fly a land-based aircraft to England on a reconnaissance-mission. Osterkamp claimed his first (but unconfirmed) kill on 6 September 1916 as an observer to pilot Leutnant zur See Wilhelm Mattheus in a LVG C.II two-seater aircraft.[4] In March 1917, he joined the Kampffliegerschule (Combat pilot school) in Putzig and then joined Marine Feld Jagdstaffel 1 on the 14th of April 1917[4] On 21 March 1917, Leutnant Osterkamp took command of Marine Feld Jagdstaffel 2 [5] He scored a total of 32 victories during the war,[3] and was awarded the Prussian military order Pour le Mérite[3] on 2 September 1918,[6] and was one of the last individuals to receive it.



Osterkamp joined the new Luftwaffe on 1 August 1933 with the rank of Hauptmann.[7] He also participated in the second, third and fourth FAI International Tourist Plane Contest Challenge 1930 (11th place), Challenge 1932 (12th place) and Challenge 1934 (5th place). By the time the war broke out in September 1939 he was a Oberstleutnant in command of the Jagdfliegerschule 1 (JF1).



On 19 September 1939, Oberst Osterkamp was appointed Geschwaderkommodore of Jagdgeschwader 51 (JG 51—51st Fighter Wing).[Note 1][7] During the Battle of France, he claimed four victories.[2] During the Kanalkampf period of the Battle of Britain in July 1940, he claimed a further two victories, (a Bristol Blenheim on 1 June and a Spitfire on 13 July 1940) bringing his total to six. He was replaced as commander of JG 51 by Werner Mölders on 23 July with the latter formally taking command on the 27th of July.[8][9] Promoted to Generalmajor, Osterkamp was awarded his Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross on 22 August 1940.[10] Following his replacement in JG 51, Osterkamp was appointed Jagdfliegerführer 2, the commander of fighter aircraft in Luftflotte 2.[11]



On 1 August 1942, he was transferred to Luftgaustab z.b.V. Afrika. On 5 April 1943, he was appointed Jagdfliegerführer Sizilien and served until replaced on 15 June by Adolf Galland. He then served in a number of staff positions until being appointed Inspekteur der Luftwaffen-Bodenorganisation (Inspector of Luftwaffe ground organisation) in 1944. After criticism from High Command, he was dismissed from the service on 21 December 1944.
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It is indeed Onkel Theo. The German language version of his page mentions his participation in the Russian civil war, which the English version leaves out. Thanks for answering, Ernie. I was really about out of clues.
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Originally Posted by Top_Gunn
It is indeed Onkel Theo. The German language version of his page mentions his participation in the Russian civil war, which the English version leaves out. Thanks for answering, Ernie. I was really about out of clues.
No problem, Al. This was actually harder than it looked at first. As I suspect most did. I initially thought WWI, Spanish Civil War and WWII. Then I realized none of the participants lost all three. So, okay; it must be WWI, the Russian Revolution and WWII. But again, who lost all three? So, finally, into the post WWI Slavic conflicts. As I said, it was harder than it first looked. I'll post something tomorrow. Thanks; Ernie P.


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