Knowledge Quiz for Warbird wiz
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And now that I think about it, the DH.4 was built in a single seat version. And, 2/3 of them were built in the United States under license. Hmmm.... Thanks; Ernie P.
Gee, Ernie, does that mean I've got you stumped? Let's see if this helps:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
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My Feedback: (3)
Gee, Ernie, does that mean I've got you stumped? Let's see if this helps:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
Well, I'm certainly all over the place on this one. Thanks; Ernie P.
Okay then, let's see if this helps:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph,a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
No guesses? Hope I didn't scare anyone off with my "Ernie confusing clues". I figure in a few more clues, at most, Ernie will have it figured out.
In the meantime, it's time for more clues:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
In the meantime, it's time for more clues:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-04-2021 at 09:16 PM.
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No guesses? Hope I didn't scare anyone off with my "Ernie confusing clues". I figure in a few more clues, at most, Ernie will have it figured out.
In the meantime, it's time for more clues:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
In the meantime, it's time for more clues:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
ok, that kinda rules out piston engines. We're looking for a turbine?
Are you sure about that? Go back and reread clue 14.
In the meantime, it's time for another clue:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
In the meantime, it's time for another clue:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-05-2021 at 07:06 PM.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type but most didn't
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-05-2021 at 07:07 PM.
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Ok..how about the P36 and P40?
I think the P36 was originally a rotary, but the next step was the Allison V12 of the P40, meant to take the place of the P36. It saw little combat while in svc with the USAAF, but the French used it extensively. Also ordered by Norway and the Netherlands who never saw delivery before Nazi occupation. I believe it was also the first aircraft deployed to China as part of the Flying Tigers who used both it, and the P40 to combat the Japanese..
I think the P36 was originally a rotary, but the next step was the Allison V12 of the P40, meant to take the place of the P36. It saw little combat while in svc with the USAAF, but the French used it extensively. Also ordered by Norway and the Netherlands who never saw delivery before Nazi occupation. I believe it was also the first aircraft deployed to China as part of the Flying Tigers who used both it, and the P40 to combat the Japanese..
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 12-05-2021 at 04:04 PM.
Again, No and No. The P-36 and P-40 were both built by Curtis. In the case of this quiz, the subject aircraft and the single seater were both designed and built by one manufacturer while the "iconic" aircraft was built by a different manufacturer as per clues 3 through 7. Time for another clue.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-05-2021 at 07:07 PM.
Maybe another pair of clues might help then.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-05-2021 at 07:07 PM.
Nope. One more clue for the night and then I'm going to leave this for tomorrow.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-06-2021 at 11:49 AM.
Two clues for today, hope they help.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
- Toward the end of this plane's conflict, one of its primary jobs was shared with submarines
- The subject aircraft was actually renamed by an ally that used it and that name was soon after adopted by the manufacturer and home country
Last edited by Hydro Junkie; 12-06-2021 at 11:59 AM.
Time for another pair of clues.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
- Toward the end of this plane's conflict, one of its primary jobs was shared with submarines
- The subject aircraft was actually renamed by an ally that used it and that name was soon after adopted by the manufacturer and home country
- Prior to the name change, all three aircraft referred to in this quiz were named after birds that lived in the same environment the planes flew in
- In fact, the subject plane was given the same name as a predecessor built by the same company
Okay guys, I'll give you one clue this morning and see what happens.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
- Toward the end of this plane's conflict, one of its primary jobs was shared with submarines
- The subject aircraft was actually renamed by an ally that used it and that name was soon after adopted by the manufacturer and home country
- Prior to the name change, all three aircraft referred to in this quiz were named after birds that lived in the same environment the planes flew in
- In fact, the subject plane was given the same name as a predecessor built by the same company
- Aircraft of this type were almost always designed to be flown as scouts but not always
A whole day and not one guess? Here's another clue, the only one for today, to see if it can clear the air a bit.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
- Toward the end of this plane's conflict, one of its primary jobs was shared with submarines
- The subject aircraft was actually renamed by an ally that used it and that name was soon after adopted by the manufacturer and home country
- Prior to the name change, all three aircraft referred to in this quiz were named after birds that lived in the same environment the planes flew in
- In fact, the subject plane was given the same name as a predecessor built by the same company
- Aircraft of this type were almost always designed to be flown as scouts but not always
- This type of aircraft was originally thought, by admirals and politicians, to be only good for helping capital ships fire more accurately by reporting corrections needed to hit enemy targets. By the end of the conflict, that thought was completely debunked due to combat experience and new fire control equipment that was much more accurate than what was originally available when combat started
Senior Member
A possibility could be the Douglas O-46 and O-43. The 46 had a v12, and was developed from the O-43.
the original Vought Corsair (1929) was a biplane OS2 and OS 3..a relative unknown. We all know the Vought F4U, but those three were radials only..no v12.
the original Vought Corsair (1929) was a biplane OS2 and OS 3..a relative unknown. We all know the Vought F4U, but those three were radials only..no v12.
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 12-09-2021 at 09:01 PM.
Not the O-43 or O-46. That will get you another clue.
I'm looking for an aircraft:
I'm looking for an aircraft:
- This aircraft was single engined
- This aircraft first entered service during a war
- This aircraft was phased out of service when a similar and superior performing "iconic" aircraft, built by a rival company, entered service(Correction to this clue, the iconic aircraft was actually first into production)
- This aircraft was designed and built by a very famous manufacturer that had designed and built "iconic" aircraft
- Only half as many of the subject aircraft were built as the rival design
- Roughly a third of the subject planes were delivered to an allied country where they never saw combat
- Ironically, the rival's "iconic" aircraft was being phased out by a new, more advanced, single seat design by the subject aircraft's manufacturing company before the end of hostilities
- All three aircraft mentioned in this quiz used the same landing gear configuration
- While the landing gear design was actually fairly common, it was only used on a few aircraft during the conflict by one enemy air arm
- Almost all of the rest of the type that flew in the conflict used a higher drag design that is still common today
- Both the subject and iconic aircraft had a crew of two, seated in tandem
- The subject aircraft was powered by a different style engine than the "iconic" aircraft and the single seat aircraft
- Going back to clue 3, the performance difference was due to "cleaner" aerodynamics that what was used in the subject aircraft
- Interestingly, the subject aircraft had a 12 cylinder engine with 50% more power than the 9 cylinder of the "iconic" aircraft but less than half of the power of the 9 cylinder engine used in the single seater
- The subject plane had a top speed of 172mph, a cruising speed of 123mph and a range of 1150 miles
- The subject plane was armed with a single fixed 30 caliber gun forward and a flexible one aft
- One of the issues that "doomed" the subject aircraft was an overheating problem at slower speeds
- Speaking of speed, the subject aircraft, which was 3 feet longer and two feet wider, was only 8mph faster than the "iconic" aircraft, even with 150 more horsepower
- The speed difference could have been due to weight. The "iconic" plane was 271lbs heavier at max take-off weight but 161lbs lighter than the subject plane
- Both the subject and "iconic" plane had a range of 1150 miles or, up to 8 hours of flying time. Interestingly, the single seat plane that replaced them both, with it's almost "fighter like" performance, could fly out 625 miles
- The engine used in the subject aircraft was shared with trainers while the "iconic" aircraft shared its engine with numerous smaller military and civilian planes as well as some helicopters. The later single seater shared its larger and more powerful engine with several kinds of "iconic" bombers, fighters, trainers and transports
- Of the three planes referred to in this quiz, only the single seater had more than two blades on the propellor, it had four
- This type of aircraft was predominantly used in one theater of the conflict. In the other theaters, some commands used the type, but most didn't
- One enemy command used the type of aircraft, not the subject aircraft itself, to great effect early in the conflict
- When that command ran out of spare parts (due to a very long supply line) and was unable to use its aircraft, it was defeated in a very famous battle
- In another famous battle, the commander of one side approved the use of only this type of aircraft for a specific mission, even though he had other aircraft available
- The failure of the planes, from clue 26, to complete their mission ultimately led to that command's eventual defeat and unwarranted finger pointing, for decades, by so called historical scholars
- Toward the end of this plane's conflict, one of its primary jobs was shared with submarines
- The subject aircraft was actually renamed by an ally that used it and that name was soon after adopted by the manufacturer and home country
- Prior to the name change, all three aircraft referred to in this quiz were named after birds that lived in the same environment the planes flew in
- In fact, the subject plane was given the same name as a predecessor built by the same company
- Aircraft of this type were almost always designed to be flown as scouts but not always
- This type of aircraft was originally thought, by admirals and politicians, to be only good for helping capital ships fire more accurately by reporting corrections needed to hit enemy targets. By the end of the conflict, that thought was completely debunked due to combat experience and new fire control equipment that was much more accurate than what was originally available when combat started
- The engine used, in the subject aircraft, was also used in the Fairchild AT-21 trainer and XP-77 lightweight wooden fighter prototypes.
Senior Member
There were only three active aircraft that I know of, besides the AT-6 ranger, that used the ranger v-770.
the seamew, the at-21, and the xso2u corsair.
the at-6 ranger was an at-6 Texan variant using the v-770
the seamew, the at-21, and the xso2u corsair.
the at-6 ranger was an at-6 Texan variant using the v-770
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 12-09-2021 at 10:13 PM.
Senior Member
Most likely the Seamew. Battleships didn't have hangers, they had to store their observation planes on the launch rig. They stopped carrying aircraft when better fire directors and radar came into service.
The corsair I don't think saw service with floats.
The AT-6 ,is of course used for training
The corsair I don't think saw service with floats.
The AT-6 ,is of course used for training
Last edited by Txmustangflyer; 12-10-2021 at 12:59 PM.
Ah, contraire. If I were to go look at battleship design, many did:
The Bismarcks
The Scharnhorsts
The KGVs
The Dunkerques
The Yamatos
Those are the ones that come to mind.
You could also add:
The large cruisers of the Alaska class
The heavy cruisers of the Baltimore, Oregon City and Des Moines classes
The "treaty cruisers of the Northampton, Portland, New Orleans and Wichita classes as they all had hangers, in various configurations
The Hipper class heavy cruisers
The Bismarcks
The Scharnhorsts
The KGVs
The Dunkerques
The Yamatos
Those are the ones that come to mind.
You could also add:
The large cruisers of the Alaska class
The heavy cruisers of the Baltimore, Oregon City and Des Moines classes
The "treaty cruisers of the Northampton, Portland, New Orleans and Wichita classes as they all had hangers, in various configurations
The Hipper class heavy cruisers