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wurger 01-30-2015 08:04 AM

Looking forward to it Fokke.......... :-)

Ramstein44 01-30-2015 08:44 AM

Awesome.. looking forward to them.

proteus_X3 01-30-2015 09:37 AM

Rumen,
Dude as we yanks say "You're Da Man!" :cool:outstanding work.Please let we know when you are ready too sell the 1/5 scale Dora's kit's I want one. Rich

Joespeeder 01-30-2015 12:35 PM

Really incredible work Fokke !!

fokke 01-30-2015 12:49 PM

Thank you so much guys !!!!!

I want to ask the boys from USA about your rules of AMA , what AMA say about the wingspan . There have some limit in inches or what ?

I find some in internet but I am not sure about that

In FAI we have limit in the weight, Nothing more 15 kg

"""" For a monoplane, it must have a wingspan of 80" or more, for a bipe,
60" or more, and for "jets" the span + length must be 100" or greater.
Also true 1/4 scale airplane qualify no matter the size. """"

Joespeeder 01-30-2015 01:14 PM

Hi Fokke,

Those are the IMAA (International Miniature Aircraft Association) definition of what is a "Giant Scale" aircraft. The IMAA has gone out of business but everyone over here still uses that definition for what is considered a Giant Scale Aircraft.

If you are creating a new project in this size range it would be better if it fit these rules. Many Contests or Fly In's are for Giant Scale aircraft only.

I've never seen anyone get refused if you are very close or can reach 80 inches by measuring the wing on the bottom to include any extra length you may get due to dihedral.

While there are lots of sizes, we generally think of 60 sized (63ish inch wing span) and Giant Scale. At least those are the popular categories. I tend to think of the typical Spitfire, P-51, FW-190 as the standard in each class. So if I want to fly Giant Scale, I'd get something that would look correct with one of those in the 80 inch range. Basically everything at 1/5 scale in this example. But if a 1/5th scale aircraft doesn't get to 80 inches it's not technically a Giant Scale and could be excluded from a Giant Scale Event.


The definition you posted are not limits to the size you can build. Just a way to classify the sizes and let people know what size aircraft are allowed at an event.

If its a Giant Scale Event then all aircraft need to meet those sized requirements.

There are size and weight limits but I'd have to look those up as I don't build large enough to worry about those.

Do you have a specific project in mind ?


Joe

EDIT: Looks like the AMA limits us to 55lbs without a waiver and up to 100lbs if you get an AMA Wavier. I'm sure someone will confirm or correct me if this has changed...

fokke 01-30-2015 01:35 PM

Thank you for your fast answer Joe !
I ask about my models , all of them are over 80 " so I am in this rules, Now I work on FW 1/4 scale and I wander whether will be good for some competitin in US also. For FAI if the model is 15kg less will be OK , I think that my 1/4 FW will be within these limits

Thanks again
Rumen

JeffH 01-30-2015 01:54 PM

No limits on wing span. We have a 55lb or 25kg weight limit that applies to everyone. Between 55lbs and 75lbs, we have to self inspect and submit paperwork to the AMA. If it is over 75 pounds, it has to be inspected by an AMA Large Model Inspector.

Ramstein44 01-30-2015 03:11 PM

I'll take one in 1/3rd scale..:D

perttime 01-31-2015 12:29 AM

The FAI 15 kg limit applies to serious scale competition.

In many cases people like to build bigger. That just means that they cannot use the model to participate in FAI-sanctioned scale contests.

Many countries seem to have special rules for "very large models". But that is a national matter.

fokke 01-31-2015 12:40 AM

Thanks Jeff !

Yes Perttime, in 1/4 scale the model will be under this limit , because 1/4 model will be around 13-14 kg if she is WW2 warbird

fokke 01-31-2015 05:49 AM

Some progress on wood part of canopy

http://www.fokkerc.com/snimki/FW/DSCI0002.JPG


http://www.fokkerc.com/snimki/FW/DSCI0003.JPG


http://www.fokkerc.com/snimki/FW/DSCI00025.JPG


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http://www.fokkerc.com/snimki/FW/DSCI0013.JPG


http://www.fokkerc.com/snimki/FW/DSCI0015.JPG

fokke 01-31-2015 02:00 PM

Some work moments :)))

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fokke 02-05-2015 06:36 AM

Today I cuted the machine gun hood, with this detail I finished with drawing on this model , I have to mke some elements on the skeleton and covering :)

Cheers

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wurger 02-05-2015 07:24 AM

It just gets betterer and betterer :-)

ticketec 02-05-2015 08:13 AM

Yes it does look fantastic fokke!!!

Greaat job, can't wait to see it all skinned up!

thanks

dave

fokke 02-05-2015 12:25 PM

Thanks guys

Dave , first I will take a pictures of the skeleton , then I will cover it with 2mm balsa sheet

vertical grimmace 02-07-2015 02:19 PM

http://pace-engines.com/index.php?ID=55

fokke 02-08-2015 05:10 AM

Oh man , I don't have words about this engine ..... :) it is like a dream :)

vertical grimmace 02-08-2015 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by fokke (Post 11978901)
Oh man , I don't have words about this engine ..... :) it is like a dream :)

It looks like it even has scale engine mounts from the D9. Maybe that would spin the scale prop everyone is desiring?

proteus_X3 02-08-2015 12:30 PM

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Vertical grimmace,
Thanks for shattering my dreams and making me want a engine that I can never afford.......:p That my friend is one cool engine, looks like a cross between a Merlin XX[Eng block and propeller reduce gear houseing and assory gear box and super charger placement http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2071513 and the Jumo-213 engines[cylinders heads,beam mount is very similar,the Pace mount is a better design 3 isolators per side on beam mount versus 2 on the Jumo 213 engine ] http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2071515

Like I said Very cool engine.Cheers: Rich

P.S. video of Merlin XX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiFYGf1tlk

fokke 02-11-2015 07:00 AM

Thanks for the info Rich !

OK , I made composite tubes in wings and the nicshes for the Retracts .

Then I start with aileron , it is not finish !

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Ramstein44 02-11-2015 07:39 AM

Ok, I'll take two of these.:D Hurry up taxes..

proteus_X3 02-11-2015 09:15 AM

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Rumen,
Wow! Love the 2 piece wing! http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072281 my wife will thank you,remember I told my work shop is in my Attic.Here a few photo's of my shop,I hope you don't mind.cheers;Rich
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072282
Entrance/Exit to shop
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072283
Home made paint booth
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072286http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072287http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2072288
Work area and building tables,cramped at times,but works.

fokke 02-11-2015 09:37 AM

Rich nice place ! I thought that all americans guys have a big garages with too big workshops in there ....

Ranmstein , what you will take, my ailerons :)) ?


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