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I've got a spinner coming from tru turn so I'll post some more shots after I get it on
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A couple more...I'm happy with the results and hope it's a keeper after flight
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Do you think it will require any baffling ?
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Originally Posted by SWORDSN
(Post 12378911)
Do you think it will require any baffling ?
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Jimmy one question:
do you have balance the plane in reverse position (upside down) ? As in post #341? Many people do not balance low wing plane with this position, but it is still the once that give a right result... I do not think that a baffling is necessary, if your air can escape easly, the baffling is to much. But it is interessant to see if the Evolution 160 will run without problems. For me, the maiden is annonced to next wednesday. |
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Some news about my La-7. I will make the maiden next wednesday, so i have time to add some scale accessories. in follow picture you will see the antenna (removable) and the pitot tube (in progress).
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Originally Posted by n8622t
(Post 12378875)
Ok here it is.....
CG set at 195mm weight is 44.1 lbs no fuel It weighed 41.8 lbs before batteries so I guess if I went with smaller and lighter batteries I could shave a pound but then I would loose that feeling of security I included a pic of my balance machine I picked up from Dreamworks....it's awesome!! |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12378943)
Some news about my La-7. I will make the maiden next wednesday, so i have time to add some scale accessories. in follow picture you will see the antenna (removable) and the pitot tube (in progress).
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Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12378941)
Jimmy one question:
do you have balance the plane in reverse position (upside down) ? As in post #341? Many people do not balance low wing plane with this position, but it is still the once that give a right result... I do not think that a baffling is necessary, if your air can escape easly, the baffling is to much. But it is interessant to see if the Evolution 160 will run without problems. For me, the maiden is annonced to next wednesday. |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12377648)
Jimmy,
My Lavotchkin final weight is 15.4kg, dry, without pilot and cockpit. I add for the maiden 250gr lead on the motor mount, this for safety, but after i will remove the lead. My Saito is already broken in, i have make this last year after many intake modification that i have self engineered. My Saito swing a Mejzlik 24x12 2 blades at 6200 rpm/min. If weather is good on freiday afternoon, i maiden it. Will see, stay online. You do an great job on your Lavotchkin, I can not wait to see your final weight, final setup, and the maiden! Jimmy, i hope that your balance method will be ok. I have a friend that make the CG balance with the same method, especially on big jets... but his last jet is going near to crash, the CG was wrong...and this was caused be a lack of precision in the calculate procedure. |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12379207)
My final weight is, as i mentioned in this post, 15.4 kg (34.65 lbs) dry and with lead. It lacks, for best scale, a pilot and the cockpit, this will add some 0.6-0.8 kg as i hope... but for the first flight, i go without this setup. Important for me, is to check the correct CG, and if possible i want to remove the 250 gr extra lead. Must see and probe.
Jimmy, i hope that your balance method will be ok. I have a friend that make the CG balance with the same method, especially on big jets... but his last jet is going near to crash, the CG was wrong...and this was caused be a lack of precision in the calculate procedure. |
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Right retract was not smooth so I took it apart and found some gaulling.....brand new gear too😜
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All cleaned up👍
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Today I have made the two first flights with the Lavotchkin... It's a sucess!
I give you more info in next time, and an video will be posted on Youtube... |
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Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12380099)
Today I have made the two first flights with the Lavotchkin... It's a sucess!
I give you more info in next time, and an video will be posted on Youtube... |
As I say yesterday, here the link for the maiden flight, and the second flight. Sorry, but my camera setup was wrong, and the sun make the job a bit difficult...
I am happy with the La-7, it seems as a good model. I see that the elevator and aileron throws are to high, it mus be reducted for scale flying. I do not have test the full flaps seting on approach, that's why the Lavochkine comes with to hight speed on landing. I test this on next flight. The flight characteristics are good, looping comes with no difficulties, inverted flight with an little amount reverse elevator, and barrel roll is a must. The take off must be accompanied with a little down elevator in the first meters since the tail is coming up, and let it roll, stay on line with the rudder, hold full gas, and you will see it is airborne! Th CG seems to be good, i try to make a little correction on it for the next flight. In the landing configuration, with this CG, you have full control on the elevator, and you can manage it easy for the final, here is no stall problem. The ground handling is good, with no nose over problems. The next job for me is to make the cockpit, and install the pilot on it. The Saito FG-84 R3 will be modified next month one more time, i am not 100% happy with the settings on middle throttle. Will see what i can make. In flight, the Saito and Keleo exhaust gives a good sound, it's a pleasure. Jimmy, have you planed your maiden ? |
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Hi Warbird, I like your setup. Congratulation for your maiden. I am closely following your construction from Jimmy and you since a few time. Both of you are making so great job !
I am working on the same kit an plan to fly with an old radial engine Seidel 70 cc that stayed in exposition since too much time. Not sure if it will be powerful enough but want to try at least. I've also modified the gear fixing, taking inspiration from the David Andersen design, making a 3D CAD modeling and CNC cut of new ribs and gear support. Gear is now quite close to scale. I have now to reinforce the fuselage in the gear retracted area. |
Total weight dry is 12,2 kg but need approx 1,5 kg in front for balancing. Means a little less than 14 kg finished, but without scale details. I have to take care of power/weight ratio...
Which propeller do you have with your saito and which rpm ? |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12380497)
As I say yesterday, here the link for the maiden flight, and the second flight. Sorry, but my camera setup was wrong, and the sun make the job a bit difficult...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxs2X1s_XXY I am happy with the La-7, it seems as a good model. I see that the elevator and aileron throws are to high, it mus be reducted for scale flying. I do not have test the full flaps seting on approach, that's why the Lavochkine comes with to hight speed on landing. I test this on next flight. The flight characteristics are good, looping comes with no difficulties, inverted flight with an little amount reverse elevator, and barrel roll is a must. The take off must be accompanied with a little down elevator in the first meters since the tail is coming up, and let it roll, stay on line with the rudder, hold full gas, and you will see it is airborne! Th CG seems to be good, i try to make a little correction on it for the next flight. In the landing configuration, with this CG, you have full control on the elevator, and you can manage it easy for the final, here is no stall problem. The ground handling is good, with no nose over problems. The next job for me is to make the cockpit, and install the pilot on it. The Saito FG-84 R3 will be modified next month one more time, i am not 100% happy with the settings on middle throttle. Will see what i can make. In flight, the Saito and Keleo exhaust gives a good sound, it's a pleasure. Jimmy, have you planed your maiden ? |
Here’s first run
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Originally Posted by oliprud
(Post 12380513)
Total weight dry is 12,2 kg but need approx 1,5 kg in front for balancing. Means a little less than 14 kg finished, but without scale details. I have to take care of power/weight ratio...
Which propeller do you have with your saito and which rpm ? You can save weight with Kavan superlight Wheels, weighting 100 gr for a 150mm Wheel. If you put the elevator servo in front of CG, and do not take a retractable rear gear, and you implant all the rest in front of CG, also you have a chance to obtain a light Lavotchkine. Actually i think that the Seidel 77 will be to underpower for this size of plane, specially for a warbird, because if you would like fly scale, the plane must be able to make maneuvers in the vertical plane! This engine would be good on a 2.1m warbird, as the topflite FW-190. My Saito FG-84 swing a Mejzlik 24x12 2 blades at 6100 rpm. |
Originally Posted by oliprud
(Post 12380511)
Hi Warbird, I like your setup. Congratulation for your maiden. I am closely following your construction from Jimmy and you since a few time. Both of you are making so great job !
I am working on the same kit an plan to fly with an old radial engine Seidel 70 cc that stayed in exposition since too much time. Not sure if it will be powerful enough but want to try at least. I've also modified the gear fixing, taking inspiration from the David Andersen design, making a 3D CAD modeling and CNC cut of new ribs and gear support. Gear is now quite close to scale. I have now to reinforce the fuselage in the gear retracted area. |
It sounds good, nice engine, and with 7 cylinders is a eye stopper ! |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12380606)
How many rpm have you after 20 seconds at full throttle ? Which prop do you use?
It sounds good, nice engine, and with 7 cylinders is a eye stopper ! |
All the ground work will be with a 27x10 prop but the flying will be with a 28x12....I hope to have the engine back by the end of next week
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Ok, you're probably right. Just ended some more trials with the Seidel and it swing 26x8 Menz 2 blades @ 4800 rpm. I have to try a 24x10.
I will post some more pictures later on. Setup is with retractable tailwheel Robart (with lado actuator), electron retract ER40 for main gear, all servos savox, emcotec dual bat, redundancy bus frsky with 2 receivers. Which torque do you have in your miniservos on the elevator ? I have actually selected SA-1258TG 12kg which are probably oversized. I will look to implant rudder servo in front of CG and all batteries in the cowl (not lipo). |
12 Kg for each elevator is oversized. But today we have choise on many different brand, and prices.
Take care at first of the elevator servos weight... each gramm is to gain. Same thing for the rear retract, better a mechanical retract with the servo in front of the CG, as a electric! On the La-7, each gramm on the elevator, is to compensate with 3.5 gramm in the nose... I have on each elevator Graupner DES 678 BB MG, with 7.5 kg torque @ 6.0v, and they weight 28 gr each. |
Originally Posted by warbird04
(Post 12381076)
12 Kg for each elevator is oversized. But today we have choise on many different brand, and prices.
Take care at first of the elevator servos weight... each gramm is to gain. Same thing for the rear retract, better a mechanical retract with the servo in front of the CG, as a electric! On the La-7, each gramm on the elevator, is to compensate with 3.5 gramm in the nose... I have on each elevator Graupner DES 678 BB MG, with 7.5 kg torque @ 6.0v, and they weight 28 gr each. |
My Evolution 160 came back yesterday but, the fedex driver went to my neighbors house. I called fedex to let them know where my house is so hopefully the driver will deliver it to my house today....my fingers are crossed:p
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Ok I got it bolted on this morning and in process of hooking it up....should have it outside and running in a couple of hours 👍
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It’s ready for break in once again😃
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Bad news !!!! Another bad ignition....I’m bummed🙁
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Ignition leads not melting and shorting out on exhaust collector are they?
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Originally Posted by scalebirdman
(Post 12383618)
Ignition leads not melting and shorting out on exhaust collector are they?
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Not a confidence builder
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Seems like the bad ignition is due to a bad batch of Rcxel made ignitions..... i bet the next one is bad too
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