speedracerntrixie

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Jeff gets the prize!


Well I think that if the airplane is recognizable then it should be legal. I stretched the rules with my Macchi and when called out on the scoop deal I added one. Did it matter? Still ran a 1:16 with the scoop. If we demanded more scale details the airplanes would be just as fast but with much more time invested. We would lose participation. For those who want to make their airplanes more scale appearing I applaud you but scale is not everyone's cup of tea. I personally feel the series works as is.

Tommy_Gun

No, this is Tommy,
And sorry to say, I agree with Roy.

This IS WARBIRD RACING.
Not stretched out skinnified kinda looks like a warbird racing.

Especially when the, no dihedral, skinny fuselaged, improper high aspect ratio wings arent needed to be competitive in our series of BRACKET RACING.
If your desire is to race quickee or formula, then go do it. Wouldn't you expect to follow those rules if you did?
Why not so for our series then?
Note I'm not speaking of this race that Marty is holding.
Specifically, I'm hoping the cd's of the SAMs races do something soon to dial this back to where it supposed to be.
I'm not asking fire rivets and panel lines.
Just that the profiles and wing platforms obviously show what you're trying to represent.
My STOCK, reinforced kyosho P40 just flew two consecutive test flights on 55% doing 8 second laps.
Don't make me post 3 views and pics of our racers to show how far off track things have gone.

airraptor

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Tommy does the SAMS rules state we can’t change the dihedral?
Do the SAMS rules state no skinny fuselages?
Do the SAMS rules state no improper high aspect ratio wings?

When you say improper high aspect ratio wings does that mean sergio, skids, and gerry's wings are improper also?
I race Q40 and Quickie also, so already doing it bud.
So a perfect plane for you is a stock reinforced plane?
oh and so you know I am Jeff at the field.
I can say that your P-40 doesn't match the 3 views and isn't scale. I just don't think you understand the implications of the non-scale thing will have on the racing. Look at what is still out there now where RC-Pro guys don't like SAMS guys. I heard they brought a piper cub to race. They were allowed to race but then the plane was outlawed. Those guys want nothing to do with the SAMS series. If you get people going on this scale thing then the racing will dwindle away to nothing.

Something else Tommy how do you propose the scale issue be regulated and controlled? Will we have to produce a 3 view of the plane with measurements of the plane? Will the plane have to be within 5% of the three views?
Tommy if we took every one of these warbirds racing to a REAL scale event we would be laughed at lol.

Tommy not poking you, but just having a conversation.

speedracerntrixie

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IMAC has a 10% scale deviation rule. Here is a picture of a full scale Extra and a Carden Extra that is popular with the IMAC crowd. I think a lot of what we currently have racing is closer then this.

MFLOOD3800

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Guys Keep this off my thread please.
Start your own called."What is scale"

here is the latest entry list

Bronze
Jeff Robinson
Bert Mitchell
Eric Jaggi
Kimo Dias
Noel Howell
Matt Campi

Silver
Jeff Robinson
Ollie Merrill
Rusty Van Baren
Gerald Meux
Dean Childs
Kimo Dias
Rick Culver
Curtis Raimondi
Matt Campi
Steve Nickerson
Steve Stokes
Noel Howell
Mark Forister

Gold
Gerald Meux
Jeff Robinson
Marty Flood
David Lloyd
Doug Killebrew
Dave Sullivan
Tom Richardi
Shawn Berkheimer
Richard Verano
Joel Gooch
Mick Crawley
Logan Shaw
Austin Shaw
Loren Shaw
Jim Smith (Skids)
Allen Annett
JR Shiager
Noel Howell
Mark Sumich

airraptor

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I see I only have to beat three people to podium in bronze, ten people in silver and 16 in gold.

cowboy69

Marty, this is going to be the coolest thing EVER pal!!! Clearly, the level of excitement for everyone is off the charts So far, looks like 11 races per round....better break out the Red Bull's....and THUNDER!!!
Ernest

cowboy69

Jeff, that was HILARIOUS!! OFLMAO! No selling yourself short though....just go for #1 all the way around.

speedracerntrixie

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I agree Jeff, 15 guys in gold shouldn't be too difficult. It's that one guy flying a Macchi you need to worry about. You just have to figure out if it's David or me. Hahahhahahha

airraptor

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the problem is I am in first most of the time just the darn clock beats me so I guess I really just need to beat one person and that is myself. If I get passed just let them go and not get mad and then pass them and go on to lap them lol. I have that "oh you did not just pass me" attitude it is very hard to be in second place

Jimmy Skids

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Ummmm I heard there was going to be a famous black spitfire in gold to contend with. Don't count that one out.

Marty, sorry if that comment takes the thread further off course.

T-Gun, the p-40 looked great yesterday even if it has a pointy nose.

MFLOOD3800

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Pilots remember the scoring is different than what you have raced.
I looked at the rules and realized somehow the trophy race part was left out So here ya go....We run 3 or 4 rounds. Take the top 4 pilots in points. They all advance to the final race. In that race you all start equal. If you make the final trophy race... you all start from 0. The winner of that trophy race is the winner of the event. Just want to make sure we are clear on that. I will mention at pilots meeting as well. Sorry for the mix up. Im not changing rules here, just clarifying, so dont get all worked up over nothing. Thx. These will be the same rules for the Nats event.

MFLOOD3800

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Here are the rules for anyone interested . I high lighted thin red the parts for change/clarification that pertain ONLY to the trophy race. If this offends anyone and feels a need to back out please do. It was an over sight on my part. The rules of the race have not changed - only the way the trophy race is determined. Since we havent started the race yet this should pose no problem for anyone:

WARBIRD CHAMPIONSHIP RACE RULES


Purpose:
The following is a description of the event and the rules that are to be followed in conducting a National Warbird Championship Warbird Race with the purpose of bringing together the various warbird racing groups in the West and elsewhere to allow as many pilots and aircraft as possible to compete in a once a year event to crown a class champion of warbird racing. The desire would be to not eliminate any aircraft used at other venues but instead encourage and approve aircraft that are currently being used for other Scale Warbird races to come and compete for the Championship race.

Pilot Qualifications:
Pilots must show proof of current AMA membership. Furthermore it is encouraged that all pilots use AMA approved 2.4 radios for ease of frequency control. Pilots using older FM equipment will need to defer to the venues frequency control procedures. Furthermore any pilots using equipment on the HAM band will need to show proof of current FCC licensing.

Each pilot will be allowed one caller/crew member per aircraft entry. All pilots and caller/crew members will be issued an armband granting access to the pit/flight line area. Only those workers and contestants wearing armbands will be allowed in the pit area. All spectators must be in approved spectator areas.

Pilots must take off, fly the heat laps, and land the aircraft. In the event of an emergency, the aircraft can be landed by another pilot resulting in disqualification for the heat.

Pilots, callers, and crewmembers will not be permitted to consume alcoholic beverages or any other illegal substance and compete in the event.

Flying or operation of an aircraft, in an erratic or unsafe manner will not be tolerated. Violations will result in a warning or black flag disqualification from the heat at the discretion of the flagman or Contest Director (CD). The CD’s decision, in this regard, is final. The CD may also require any pilot to demonstrate the safe flying characteristics of an entered aircraft, if the pilot’s capability with said aircraft is unknown.

No timing devices (watches, stopwatches, transmitter timers, etc.) will be allowed at the pilot station during the heat racing. Also no help from pit area during a race as to lap times be reported to pilot while he/she is racing will be allowed. Unsportsmanlike conduct by a pilot, caller, or crewmember is grounds for the pilot’s disqualification from the event.

Model Aircraft Requirements:
The only models qualified to be entered in a National Warbird Championship Race event must be scale models replicating heavier than air, fixed wing, piston engine powered, man carrying, fighter, fighter-bomber aircraft that were in production (or Military prototype aircraft intended for production that were flight tested) after January 1, 1937, or scale models of non-military aircraft that have raced in the unlimited category of the Reno Air Races. To “have raced” means that the aircraft must have crossed the starting line while participating in an official heat. No profile fuselage types or Q40 with hollow molded wings or F3D type planes will be allowed as they do not fit the intent of the class.

Any pilots that have questions regarding aircraft eligibility are encouraged to contact the CD(s) prior to the event. A plane may only be flown in only one class per event. Once a plane has attempted take off for a heat in any class (Bronze, Silver, Gold) said plane may not be used in any other class for the event. Also, a plane may only be flown by one entrant. Planes that have attempted to compete or have competed in a heat race by a pilot cannot be used by any other pilot for the event. However, back up aircraft that have not been flown may be assigned to another pilot for the event. Once the assigned plane has attempted take off the assigned plane will have to be used for the remainder of the event unless damage to the plane occurs (see damaged aircraft procedures below). Scale – models that do not approximately resemble the scale outlines of their full scale counterpart are not permitted. There will be no hollow, composite wings allowed. Composite materials can be used in wing construction for spars or landing gear areas or wing tips, etc., just no all composite type hollow wings. All entered aircraft whether primary or back up must be thoroughly flight tested prior to use at an event. Recommendation would be that aircraft be flown a minimum of two times prior to the event. In no circumstances will a plane be allowed to fly its maiden flight as part of a heat race. Maximum of 2 planes per pilot per class allowed


Engine and Wing Area Requirements:
The maximum engine displacement for single engine aircraft is 1.40 cubic inches for 2 stroke engines and 1.80 for 4 stroke engines. The Maximum combined displacement for multi-engine aircraft is 1.80 cubic inches for 2 stroke engines, and 3.50 cubic inches for 4 stroke engines. The maximum engine size for a particular aircraft will be determined using the wing area/engine displacement tables provided below. Wankel engines are classified as 2 stroke engines. Proof of engine displacement is the responsibility of the contestant. Wing area will be determined by average chord X span when requested by specific protest.

Single Engine Displacement/Wing Area Table:

2 Stroke Maximum 4 Stroke Maximum Wing Area Minimum
Cubic Inches Cubic Inches Square Inches

0-.50 0-.89 400
.51-.60 .90-.99 440
.61-.70 1.00-1.09 480
.71-.80 1.10-1.19 515
.81-.95 1.20-1.29 550
.96-1.05 1.30-1.39 565
1.06-1.10 1.40-1.49 580
1.11-1.15 1.50-1.59 595
1.19-1.20 1.60-1.69 610
1.21-1.30 1.70-1.75 630
1.31-1.40 1.76-1.80 650


Multi Engine Displacement/Wing Area Table:

2 Stroke Maximum 4 Stroke Maximum Wing Area Minimum
Cubic Inches Cubic Inches Square Inches
Total Displacement Total Displacement

0-1.00 0-1.50 500
1.01-1.22 1.51-2.00 600
1.23-1.40 2.01-2.50 700
1.41-1.60 2.51-3.00 850
1.61-1.82 3.01-3.50 1000

Engine Requirements:
Mufflers or tuned pipes are required on all 2 stroke engines. All engines must have an operational carburetor and demonstrate the ability to maintain an engine speed of 4000 RPM or less for a period of five seconds prior to takeoff. During this “idle down” period and prior to take off, no contact will be made between the pilot or holder and the engine or fuel system. (No needle adjustments, fuel line pinching, etc.)

Safety Inspection:
The following criteria will be used to inspect all aircraft that are flown in National Warbird Championship races. CD’s, safety inspectors, and contestants should equally be aware that following these criteria to the letter is extremely important in helping to minimize individual liability during the course of the race. During registration, a safety inspector who is a knowledgeable individual appointed by the CD will examine each aircraft.

Specific items to look for are as follows:
1. Short pieces of rubber tubing used to secure all clevises to prevent them from becoming disconnected in flight. Clevises using a bolt and self-locking nut fastener, or other locking device do not require safety tubing.
2. All fasteners holding the engine to the engine mount, and the mount to the firewall, must be in place and secure.
3. Receiver and battery pack should be protected against vibration in accordance with the manufacturer’s recommendations. Servos operating all flight surfaces shall be of sufficient size, a minimum of 57 oz torque on control surface requirements. Airborne battery packs must be of at least 500 mah capacities. Li-Po and Li-Ion batteries must be approved per different racing sites as outlined in their laws. Li-Fe (A123) batteries are allowed anywhere.
4. Washers will be used on all screws holding the servos to the mounting trays, and also on all screws holding the tray to the rails (all washers will be approximately the same diameter as the grommets). Servos mounted directly to the rails will also have washers on the mounting screws. If screw head diameters are as large or larger than the grommet diameter of the servos being used then, or if with screws with the washer built into the head (such as those provided with JR, Futaba, Airtronics and Hitec servos) are being used, separate washers will not be required. All servo trays, if used, will have at least one extra safety screw (not necessarily turned down tightly) placed between the grommets on the rear or front of the tray to prevent the tray from slipping out of the grommets in flight. Servos must be mounted by using fasteners as recommended by the equipment manufacturer. The use of servo tape to directly attach a servo into the aircraft is unacceptable in racing aircraft.
5. When servo manufacturers supply a grommet servo mounting system with brass eyelets, the brass eyelets must be correctly installed. The eyelet must be inserted into the grommet with the rolled end of the eyelet against the material that the servo is being mounted to. This will help prevent collapsing the grommet by over-tightening the fastener.
6. A keeper, or collar, will be on all push rods that have a right angle bend that connects them to the servo output arms. Z-bends are acceptable. If clevises are used at both ends of a push rod, one must be secured, so that the push rod will not turn. EZ connecter type fasteners are NOT permitted on servo arms and push rod ends that control flying surfaces such as ailerons, elevator(s), and rudder(s).
7. All control surfaces will be firmly attached on the hinge line without excessive play, (at the discretion of the safety inspector).
8. Positive thread type wing bolts or screws will secure the wing in place on all two piece aircraft.
9. The entire aircraft should be inspected for any stress cracks.
10. Every aircraft should have the owner’s name, AMA number affixed to the inside per the AMA safety code.

If an aircraft fails to conform to any of the above inspection criteria, it shall be repaired before it can be entered. Any aircraft damaged after it has been safety inspected, shall be re-inspected before it is allowed to fly again. Aircraft with a known history of safety or performance problems should be rejected unless acceptable changes have been made to eliminate the problems.

Declared Racing Class: Breakout times:
The following breakout times will be used in the fixed-bracket racing format. There are NO adjustments to these breakout times.

BRONZE CLASS 2 minutes, 25 seconds
SILVER CLASS 1 minute, 55 seconds
GOLD CLASS 1 minute, 25 seconds


Heat size, Matrixing, and number of rounds flown:
Once the registration and safety inspections have been completed, and the number of entries in each class is known, heat sizes will be set at 4 airplanes maximum per heat. Matrixing, (determining which contestants will fly against each other in each heat), will be determined randomly except for the final trophy race of the event. The final trophy race will be determined by point position from the preceding heats, i.e. the 4 highest point positions will race against each other in the final trophy race. Racing will consist of as many rounds of heats in each class, as time will permit, over the duration of the event. Points in all preliminary heat racing rounds will be totaled to determine who goes to the final trophy race in each class. In event of a tie, the tie will be broken by the following criteria in this order:

1). Any heat or heats that resulted in a “0” (Black Flag, B/O, DNS, DNF, Mid Air,, Cut Out ,etc) will be used to eliminate pilot(s) from the tied position(s)
- If one pilot has one "0" and the other has two "0"s the lowest number of "0"s wins the tie and moves into the best finish position

2). If all pilots involved share the same amount of "0" point heats then their total time for the entire event will be added up and the lowest total elapsed time will win the best finish position.
- this includes any heats with one cut, that heat time will be included into total time

3). If there is still a tie, then the lowest time above break out of any of the heats will be used to determine the winner of the tie

4). If there is still a tie using all of the above criteria the pilots will be considered "tied" unless it is for a trophy position of 1st,2nd or 3rd where then they will have a fly off to determine the winner for the best finish position.

Once again, The top four finishers in each class will advance to the final trophy race.




Matrix Setup:
At the CD’s discretion the number of rounds per day will be set. Recommendation would be for 3 rounds on day one, and for two rounds with an additional finals round on day two. Entries and time needed per round as well as weather and other “acts of God” will affect the number of rounds run each day and in total. Modification to the finals round will be at the CD’s discretion based upon points and the number of entries.
Each plane will be required to have color markings on designated wing tip top and bottom. There will be a high or low red and a high or low green color applied to wing tips.
These colors will be supplied by the race promoter and applied once matrix and lane assignments are set up.

Engine Run-up area:
Testing of engines must be conducted within the designated engine run-up area, and must be accomplished without the use of a transmitter once heat racing has begun, unless positive controls are in place to eliminate frequency conflicts with racing aircraft.

Engine Starting Procedures:
After aircraft flying in the heat have been identified to the pylon judges, and radios have been checked to insure they are operating, the starter will begin a 120-second timing device. Pilots and their callers will be instructed to start their engines and have the 120-seconds to get their engines running and launch their aircraft. Pilots are allowed one takeoff attempt. Once either of the aircraft main wheels leaves the ground an attempt has been made. If during the 120-second window an engine dies and a takeoff attempt has NOT been made, the plane may be restarted.

Take off Procedures and Directions:
Contestants may take off on a first come, first served basis, but the starter will control access to the runway. Callers will carry, or guide, the pilot’s aircraft onto the runway, and should take great caution when handling aircraft with the engine running, so as to not pose danger to themselves or others. Taxiing of aircraft onto the runway to take off is prohibited. The starter will determine what direction the aircraft must use to take off. This will generally be dictated by the wind direction. If the takeoff direction is from right to left the aircraft must be carried to a position on the runway beyond the left most pilot station and released from there. This is a safety
procedure to help compensate for aircraft that tend to turn to the left on takeoff, due to engine torque and/or wind

Heat Start Procedure:
After the 120-second engine start up time has elapsed, the 45-second countdown clock is started. The announcer will advise as the clock counts down to 30 seconds, 15 seconds, and then count down from 10 seconds to the start of the heat. The heat begins when the clock reaches zero and the starter drops the green flag. At this time, all aircraft are to be to the left of the start/finish line. Failure to meet this requirement is a jumped start and results in disqualification for the heat. Loops to avoid jumping the start are NOT permissible. Pilots, who find they are about to jump the start, can execute a legal sharp left pitchout turn and then circle back safely to the start/finish line by leveling their wings at least once in that turn. Pilots should avoid turning and heading directly towards the pits or starting line in this maneuver.

Heat Racing Procedure:
The heat will consist of 10 laps in a racetrack pattern flown past and around each pylon pole without crossing the deadline. Pilots must also keep their aircraft above the tops of the pylon poles. Pilots who fly near the deadline, or who briefly drop below the top of the pylon poles will receive one warning from the flagman or assistant flagman. Any aircraft crossing the deadline will result in a black flag disqualification from the heat.

Repeated infractions of the deadline, or flying too low, or other unsafe erratic flying can disqualify the pilot for the remainder of the day, and the pilot may be required to demonstrate flying proficiency on the race course before being allowed to fly on the second day. Victory rolls and other acrobatic maneuvers at any time during, or after the heat, are strictly prohibited, and are grounds for black flag disqualification for the heat. Any pilot not pulling off the racecourse after receiving the black flag for any reason will be disqualified from the rest of the event.

Heat Finish Procedure:
For each competing pilot, a racing heat will be concluded when the aircraft has flown 10 consecutive laps, and it has crossed the finish line in the air. Aircraft are not required to be under power when crossing the finish line to finish the heat, and may complete the heat by gliding across the line. The starter will waive the checkered flag as the lead aircraft crosses the finish line completing the 10th lap. When the heat is finished, the assistant flagman will record the finish positions of all aircraft then contact the pylon judges by radio to ascertain if any of the competing aircraft had pylon cuts. Noted cuts will be recorded on the heat card. The assistant flagman will also obtain the heat time for each aircraft from the timing device(s) and record those times on the heat card. In the case of a “photo finish” the winner will be declared by the starter and is not reviewable.

Pilots are not permitted to taxi their planes back to the pilot station while other pilots are waiting to land. Care should be taken to exit plane off to the side of the runway and leave runway clear for next pilot to land.


Heat Scoring Procedure:
For the Gold and Silver and Bronze brackets a four plane maximum heat size will be used. The first place finisher in the heat will receive the same number of points as the number of planes in the maximum heat size in the class. Each subsequent place finisher will receive one less point. For example, with a four-plane maximum heat size with the class, the 1st place finisher receives 4 points, 2nd place will receive 3 points, 3rd place will receive 2 points, etc. Any aircraft that was unable to take off or that was to the right of the start finish line at the start of the heat receives no (0) points. Any aircraft that did not finish the heat receives no (0) points. Any aircraft that completes the heat in less than the prescribed break out time for its class receives no (0) points. Any aircraft that was black flag disqualified receives no (0) points. Effect of Cuts on Points Awarded: If an aircraft cuts one pylon, by not flying past it, that aircraft will receive only 1 point for the heat regardless of finish position. Any aircraft cutting more than one pylon will receive no (0) points for the heat. Aircraft finishing without cuts behind aircraft receiving cuts will have their finish position advanced one place in the standings for every aircraft ahead of them that received cuts. The following four plane heat example illustrates the point scoring system.
If a plane has both a cut and a break out the heat is considered a break out and receives a 0 for that heat.

1st place finisher with one cut 1 point
2nd place finisher with two cuts 0 points
3rd place finisher with no cuts 4 points
4th place finisher with no cuts 3 points

Damaged Aircraft Procedures:
In the event of a mid-air collision, the starter will signal both aircraft to climb off the racecourse. Both aircraft will be given a zero for that heat. The remaining aircraft in the heat will be allowed to finish the race. Both aircraft involved in the mid-air will be landed as soon as it is safe. Any other damage observed by the starter (flutter, loose control surfaces, etc.) will result in a black flag for that heat and the aircraft will be landed when safe. Before any damaged aircraft is allowed to fly in a subsequent heat, it must be re-inspected by an approved safety inspector and deemed airworthy. If a pilot chooses to switch from the aircraft that they started the event with (for any reason -damage or otherwise) then the original plane will not be allowed to compete for the rest of the event unless the backup aircraft becomes damaged and the CD grants permission to the pilot to re-instate their original aircraft.
Also, Pilots are encouraged to make the CD aware immediately if any aircraft are to be changed and or pulled from competition in an effort to help the race administrators in their record keeping.

Race Scoring Procedures:
Race scoring shall be the sum of all heat scores. There will be no rounds thrown out.

Protests:
It is unfortunate that sometimes disagreements arise when conducting any sporting event. Kindly remember to be calm and sportsmanlike when discussing disagreements with the contest director. If a contestant believes that he/she has a legitimate complaint regarding a specific aspect or incident, a protest should be registered with the contest director within a timely manner. Only contestants may file a protest and protests must be filed prior to the conclusion of an event. The CD(s) is (are) the only point of contact for the protests and his (their) ruling will be final.

Safety/ Safety Equipment:
All provisions of the Official Academy of Model Aeronautics National Model Aircraft Safety Code are incorporated into these rules by reference.

The Academy of Model Aeronautics requires that all contestants, callers, crew members, and event officials and workers participating in any organized racing event wear helmets (hard hats), that are approved by ASHA, DOT, ANSI, SNELL, NOCSAE, or a comparable standard, while “on the course”, in accordance with the AMA’s definition of “on the race course. Contestants, callers, and crew members are required to provide their own helmets (hard hats) that meet these requirements. There are absolutely NO exceptions to these policies and they shall be kept in strict compliance and enforcement at all times. Willful disregard of these policies will result in ejection from the event.

Race Awards:
Each class will receive a trophy for first through fourth. Any additional prizes are determined by race sponsorship incentives.

Anything not covered in the rules above:
The event CD(s) will have the ability to interpret the National Warbird Championship Race rules and make any decisions needed.

speedracerntrixie

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Cool, my kids havent shot at anything in a while LOL.

MFLOOD3800

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Weather looking great. Still getting some entries coming in. More to sign up at race. I'm heading out tomorrow morning. Looking forward to seeing everyone there.
Especially Jeff with his 224 MPH plane on 85%

MFLOOD3800

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Latest pilot list

Bronze
Jeff Robinson
Bert Mitchell
Eric Jaggi
Kimo Dias
Noel Howell
Matt Campi
Brett Robert Cole

Silver
Jeff Robinson
Ollie Merrill
Rusty Van Baren
Gerald Meux
Dean Childs
Kimo Dias
Rick Culver
Curtis Raimondi
Matt Campi
Steve Nickerson
Steve Stokes
Noel Howell
Mark Forister
Tetsuo Yamada

Gold
Gerald Meux
Jeff Robinson
Marty Flood
David Lloyd
Doug Killebrew
Dave Sullivan
Tom Richardi
Shawn Berkheimer
Richard Verano
Joel Gooch
Mick Crawley
Logan Shaw
Austin Shaw
Loren Shaw
Jim Smith (Skids)
Allen Annett
JR Shiager
Noel Howell
Mark Sumich
Tetsuo Yamada
Bronze
Jeff Robinson
Bert Mitchell
Eric Jaggi
Kimo Dias
Noel Howell
Matt Campi
Brett Robert Cole

Silver
Jeff Robinson
Ollie Merrill
Rusty Van Baren
Gerald Meux
Dean Childs
Kimo Dias
Rick Culver
Curtis Raimondi
Matt Campi
Steve Nickerson
Steve Stokes
Noel Howell
Mark Forister
Tetsuo Yamada

Gold
Gerald Meux
Jeff Robinson
Marty Flood
David Lloyd
Doug Killebrew
Dave Sullivan
Tom Richardi
Shawn Berkheimer
Richard Verano
Joel Gooch
Mick Crawley
Logan Shaw
Austin Shaw
Loren Shaw
Jim Smith (Skids)
Allen Annett
JR Shiager
Noel Howell
Mark Sumich
Tetsuo Yamada

MFLOOD3800

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Made it to the field in Fresno... Beautiful layout.
Reminder - no engines starting prior to 9:00 AM
With that said I will push worker meeting to 8:30 AM, and Pilots Meeting to 9:30 AM so you all have some time to run engines and tune. Probably not a lot of time to test fly - Sorry. If you try to test fly please let's get about 2 or 3 planes in the air together. We will try to be racing by 9:45 AM.

See you all tomorrow

KazeRacing

ill be there in the morning marty

KazeRacing

thanks marty for putting on a killer event congrats to all the winners see u guys next year

david lloyd

MFLOOD3800

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Well we made it through the event with some great racing as expected. We had 33 pilots with 43 total entries. Only one mid air.
Big thanks to the Fresno RC Club for hosting us. What a great facility they have and great members helping out on the course duties.


Here are the class Trophy Winners:
Gold - 1st Jim Smith, 2nd Richard Verano, 3rd Mark Sumich, 4th Allen Annett


Silver - 1st Gary Prosser, 2nd Bryan Freeman, 3rd Tetsuo Yamada, 4th Rick Culver


Bronze - 1st Jeff Robinson, 2nd Eric Jaggi, 3rd Matt Campi, 4th Noel Howell


A huge thanks to our event sponsors, YS Engines, JR America, APC Props and Horizon Hobby.


The winner of the Speed Dash was Richard Verano with a speed of 203 MPH.

cowboy69

Great group of people, great event! Hopefully can do it again Marty El Timbr'e!!!

tsawyer148

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It really was a spectacular time! It was really good to finally put some faces to names and meet some amazing people. Congrats to the winners and a big THANK YOU to the Fresno club and all the helpers and especially to Marty for putting this all together. I would also like to extend a personal thank you to Joe DeLateur and JR Schiager for their help with the timing and scoring!

dan kelly

Good Job Bert. Wish I could have made it. Any chance of getting the complete list top to bottom where everyone finished? NO. Never mind. Might stir up the trash talk too soon . Ha ha. Must have been water near by. Can't believe my Buddy (you know who) finished so far down. Tough competition I guess. Just fun'n. Sounds like ya'll had a good time. Hope to see you guys soon for the last race of RCPRO's season. Weather permitting of course.

Just curious......Did Gerald race? Thanks.

Jimmy Skids

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Huge Ditto on that.

Personally I had a great time. I'll be honest in that I wasn't 100% sold on the format, but I really appreciate the effort from all the workers. My main reason for attending was to support Marty and his vision to bring all the different racing groups together. I will say that I was somewhat disappointed to not see more racers from RC Pro and the triangle series (Redding guys were missed also). All of us need to step outside our comfort zone to make something like this undertaking happen and unfortunately it looked like some were unable to take that step yet.

I want to remain positive and not take away from what Marty did accomplish so enough on that. For those that did show up, I believe everyone had a great time and there were some new friendships started. The talent level brought together really made for a great weekend. The host club was fantastic and a sincerely great group of men and women who not only worked the event, but made it enjoyable as well - I sincerely hope that they enjoyed the event also.

Early on in this process Marty expressed that this was to be the first ever Champions race. There was much said as to who would be Champion and who would win the APC speed dash. Well now that the dust has settled we know that Richard Verano is the FASTEST Warbird guy on the planet and we also know who holds the title of CHAMPION in Bronze, Silver, and Gold. Congratulations to the winners and not once did I hear the G-man mention that the alternates plaque was in the ladies room.

Jimmy Skids

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Some images up here.http://frcm.org/pix/index.php/Warbir...s-Nov-7-8-2015