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Old 08-22-2005, 05:10 PM
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Nony, you bet, there are two of us from Lehtbridge going. I recognize the 415 in the left of the photo. That's Ted Russells, my insperation for building mine. The other one is Lornes I believe. I know Ted quite well. Are you going to Shuswap? We will be at Vernon on the long weekend then Shuswap.
Old 08-22-2005, 05:22 PM
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Cool..I didn't want to assume that you had never been there. I'll be there bright and early...the down side is that I have nothing more exotic than an ugly stik to fly this year.......
Old 08-22-2005, 05:32 PM
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I'll look for you there. Don't worry about what you have to fly I am, as most everyone else in the hobbie, at the "Run what ya Brung" attitude. Doesn't matter what you fly as long as it's safe and you have fun! Will you be at the Vernon one as well?
Old 08-22-2005, 05:35 PM
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Nony, just to clear up with you're point on not assumming, This will be our first trip to Shuswap. I know Ted from when he was in Prince Rupert as we lived in Burns Lake at that time. I have a good buddy from Burn's that will be at both as well. Can't wait I really need a holiday!
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I wanted to have my big cub there, but no room in the car, and no time to finish it.. I won't make it to Vernon. I'm heading down to Princeton for the jet meet right afterwards, and I don't want to impose on my happy marriage by being away more than two weeks!
Easiest way to find me...there is usually a bonfire at Cabin 2 every night. I'll be there with a rum and coke....

Old 08-22-2005, 09:44 PM
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your right.here's my RCM, Micivator, still in bones, waiting completion. too many others have taken priority over it. nows a good time to get busy on it again. dick
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:34 PM
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Who's right? - Looks like an interesting airplane I can't say I know it though. Please let us know when it's completed.
Should be a nice bird!
Old 10-03-2005, 07:08 PM
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Have a quick question for you Mountie.
I am about to start the Canadair 215 again. have it about 1/2 done. As I previously mentioned it will be about 15 lbs and powered with a couple of Saito 65's.
the question is side/down thrust.
there seems to be a whole book written on this. Steve Grey's 25 powered uses no down or side. The only reason I can think of no thrust is the large Fin/Rudder.
Then I came to read about the new Top Flight DC-3 using right 4 deg and left 3 deg. not sure about down. Any comments on this as I know you have had yours airborne. What did you wind up using??
Thanx
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:05 PM
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Doc 1, glad to hear you got the urge to complete her. The engines are mounted with 0 side and down thrust.

The plane flies great and even with the left engine out I experienced this spring it flew very stable on one engine. I would point out the engines on mine were 61 Webra two strokes so I had more than adequite power. I would also like to suggest you increase the spray bars at the bottom of the unit so they cover well back of the engines. You will also need to increase the front upper spray bar to stop water from going over the nose. You can use clear lexan or similar for this so it does not detract from the scale look.
I sold mine this fall as I plan to build a 9 or 10 footer which will also have 0 thrust. Good Luck and let me know how you make out.
Regards, Tony
Old 10-03-2005, 09:38 PM
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Thanx for the info Tony, really appreciate it. Have got the wings out... have to repair some hanger rash.. have moved a couple of times since the start about 5 yrs ago.. finally have some room and a workshop, so I can see the end in sight.
I think I will start off with wheels, as we have a great field just outside of Ottawa. Probably one of the best in the area. I'm going to use Steve Greys Idea of the gear and when I find out the flight chars, remove and head for the river.
Geeeeeeeezzz a 10ft 215.. now that sounds interesting. what are you going to use for power???
Gary
Old 10-03-2005, 09:59 PM
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I'll run 120 four strokes hopefully if Santa's nice to me. The bigger one will be easier to handle on the water and the bigger they are the nicer they fly too! Keep in touch and i'll let you know how i'm doing too. I have an 87" Herc c-130 to get done before I can start my CL-215 though.
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Interesting... if Santa is that thoughtfull, maybe he could be pursuaded to make a short detour over here for some new 65's or some OS 70's... suppose I have to really be good tho, and nice to the wifey.... need all the brownie points I can get
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I'll put in a good word for you. LOL.
Old 10-04-2005, 03:37 PM
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Man plans bumbed up about 40%,,,
96" span
3 piece wing
scale retracts
scale water pick up and dump
os .91s

Hopefully someday I'll finish her up
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Old 10-04-2005, 04:33 PM
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Nice pix enough!!!... same size as the one i'm building, but without the gorgeous retracts. I'm just using 2 Saito 65 FStrokes, and it will go about 15 lbs. Like the 3 piece wing!! How are you going to attach the sections?
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Old 10-04-2005, 05:24 PM
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Default RE: Canadair CL-215 from M.A.N. plans

Thanks
I'll get the wings out later and take a pic
Basically they slide in the rectangular slots in the center section and are held in place with a bolt accessed through the hatch atop each nacelle.

P.S.
The man plans were a good starting point for me
Mine is going to be the newer CL-415 version, hence the different nacelles
Old 10-05-2005, 10:08 AM
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Great looking planes. Ok you guys convinced me. Just got off of MAN website and ordered the plans. I was looking for a winter project anyway. I have a pair of GK Saito 56's I'll use for power. On another note, I put my receivers in big balloons to keep the water out. I put wire ties around the balloon neck where the wires come out. For salt water flying, you could cover the wire exit with vaseline to repel the water.
Old 10-06-2005, 09:15 PM
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For those who want the new turbine powered version, the CL-415, you can get a plan on this website: www.mraerodesign.com

Old 10-30-2005, 11:12 PM
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Hi Mountie, have a quicky question for you. On your gear, what kind of configuration did you use? I'm assuming that you didn't use retracts??
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Old 10-31-2005, 04:25 AM
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Actually i had no land gear on this one. I chose to not install as I went with home made pick up and drop system and was concerned with weight.
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Thanx Mountie,
I think that I will go with Steve Grey's configuration of gear bolted on each side, with a shock absorber wire (prob 1/8 flex piano wire) from the axle to just under the wing.
If it worked for him, it's good enuff for me.
Gary
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Hello All,

I have the 72" MAN plans CL-215, I wish to swap the os 25 for a pair of OS 52 surpass engines. I was wondering your thoughts? Also, any ideas where to get cowls for this plane?

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Hi!
I have a Kyosho PB Catalina powered by two OS .15 LA engines singing APC 8x5 props and have power to spare, flies at lumbering speeds on 1/3 throttle and is sooo easy to taxi without water rudder and take off., so .52 four-strokes will be too much power/weight.
It is vital too keep a plane light so go with the smallest possible engines and keep overall weight down and you will have a nice flying plane.
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Never had a PBY, but those I've seen fail to work have always been too heavy and sit in the water too low to transition onto the step,, so I'd say Yes,, you can't generate power to overcome the extra weight with the props hitting the water..

My advise is Yes,, keep it light

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