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Desertlakesflying 02-24-2010 12:27 PM

SEAMASTER
 
WOOOHOOO .........I got a Seamaster ARF. They are being sold on Ebay by cyradio.

I don't know how many more there are, but I've seen two go since I got mine, and there's another listed.

p.s. The shipping cost is a bit outrageous though.

jcpylon 02-24-2010 01:16 PM

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I have gone to e-bay and can not find where they are selling seamaster kits by this cyradio.
Where in e-bay are these seamaster that this guy is talking about?:eek:

scale only 4 me 02-24-2010 01:22 PM

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ARFs maybe?? ,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-46-55-Seapla...mZ190375335851

Desertlakesflying 02-24-2010 02:49 PM

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Yea they are arfs...Heck I didn't even know they made Seamaster kits after they started making arfs.

scale only 4 me 02-24-2010 03:26 PM

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They stop making the "kits" a long time ago I think,, did you see that step location ;)

j/k those Are fun little planes, if flown a few over the years (OPP of course :))

aa1a 02-24-2010 03:43 PM

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Hi All,
I did the maiden flight with my Neptune a few weeks ago. It flew great. No problems at all. I paid $103 including shipping from Ebay. You can get the EXACT same plane online from Maxford USA for $189. I put an Evolution 46 on it. There was a Seamaster at the Float fly. They are very very similar but not exactly the same.
Jim

Shrike15 03-08-2010 12:55 AM

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I just bought a Neptune ARF from the same guy, Cyradio. It really was a steal at $77, plus $30 for shipping. Still waiting for it to come in. I'm going to put a Super Tigre .51 on it, and probably going to fiberglass the bottom.

Can't WAIT!!! We're going on a fishing trip up to Ontario this summer, and the Neptune will definitely be coming along.

20nascar2020 03-08-2010 05:05 PM

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i just bought a seamaster from a guy i fl, via ebay. it was 35 for it, 40 shipping...... all in great shape, but needs small fixing......
new project!:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123


20nascar2020 03-08-2010 05:07 PM

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hope all goes well with yours!

Shrike15 03-10-2010 12:25 AM

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Thanks! Make sure to put up pictures of the repairs

Desertlakesflying 03-10-2010 01:20 AM

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Only complaints about mine......

No front hatch like the real Seamaster had.

The nacelle for the engine pod both front and back were a bit too small for the wood engine mount it was supposed to connect to.

Angles for the elevator push rod is a little steeper than the original.

A big plus I thought......The bottom side from the step all the way forward to the nose is one solid piece of plywood.

I glazed the inside and made a front hatch for the battery.

Was a bit tail heavy, adding a 4 cell 4.8v JR pack in the nose balanced it perfect.

All and all not a bad deal, even though there needs to be some legwork done on the shipping charges, instead of just basing it off of the size of the box.

scale only 4 me 03-10-2010 10:48 AM

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Based on what I'd guesstimate the box size/weight would be, He is doubling what UPS would charge,, Many ebay retailers add this hidden charge to cover the ebay/paypal fees

Around $100 delivered aint bad,, what exactly did you pay?

Shrike15 03-11-2010 12:01 AM

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He is absolutely making money off of the shipping.

I live 20 miles away from him, and he refused to let me drive over and pick it up. That's a clear red flag that there's some shady shipping charges going on.

I also suspect some shill bidding is going on with his auctions (where they have alternate accounts to bid on their own stuff to drive up the price). Some of his auctions have one bidder that has bid on several of his auctions (once per auction), and they never actually win the auction. It's kind of hard to prove because eBay's privacy policies, but I have a pretty strong suspicion.

Given these things, you're still getting a good deal on his auctions... so I guess it's ok? Oh well....


Anyways, my new Neptune ARF shipped today... I hope UPS is able to get it 20 miles to my house by tomorrow!! Can't wait to get it assembled. Oh and thanks for the tips, Cowboy!

Desertlakesflying 03-11-2010 12:46 AM

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No problem. I did report him to Ebay to maybe get things in order with his shipping and only left neutral ratings because of it. Only paid 120 to the door but still, it's the principle of the thing.

scale only 4 me 03-11-2010 07:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Shrike15

He is absolutely making money off of the shipping.

I live 20 miles away from him, and he refused to let me drive over and pick it up. That's a clear red flag that there's some shady shipping charges going on.

I also suspect some shill bidding is going on with his auctions (where they have alternate accounts to bid on their own stuff to drive up the price). Some of his auctions have one bidder that has bid on several of his auctions (once per auction), and they never actually win the auction. It's kind of hard to prove because eBay's privacy policies, but I have a pretty strong suspicion.
I don't want to get into a blow up and don't mean to flame you guys, but if you didn't think the shipping & handling was fair, why did you buy from the guy?

I'd guess he is using the mark up to cover fees, not really "make money",
Keeping things in perspective when you think about a $60 anything on ebay

Example of a final value fee calculation for an auction listing:
You sell an item for $60.00
For the first $25.00 you pay 8.75%, which is $2.19
For the remaining $35.00 you pay 3.50%, which is $1.23
For this item the final value fee is $3.42 ($2.19 + $1.23)
Paypal? another 3% or so on that $60 +$1.80
Insertion fee if you start at $.01 = $.15
So on a $60 transaction he has to pay $5.37 just in fees.

On a $100 kit? closer to $8.00

He could be just "Drop Shipping" these,, that is when they ship directly from a warehouse somewhere, not the location where you send payment or the guy does business. This is very common now a days online also. And if that's the case he is paying a comission to the service that processes and sends out the order too.

If you suspect Shill Bidding, you should report that to ebay ASAP, I've reported that many times myself. It's harder for you and I to detect, but Ebay can figure it out if you report it.


When considering the shipping cost for this item, remember this package is 44lb by UPS dimensional rate.
I find this hard to believe,, what was the box dimension?

Shrike15 03-11-2010 06:10 PM

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well... you're right, in the end we still got a decent deal on the thing, lol.

The dimensions of the box are 10'' x 15'' x 51''

20nascar2020 03-11-2010 07:03 PM

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well, the guy today decided to keep it... now i have a new project: an old rc p-51..... any ideas of who made it??? very nice plane(little dirty in the pictures). any cool ideas of what i should do with it? it came with the plane, engine, ang extras like starters, plugs, glow starter and more!

if you have any ideas of what to do, or who made it.... post it! :)


and it was $70

Shrike15 03-11-2010 08:02 PM

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hmm... I have no idea what that has to do with the Seamaster. I have a feeling:

well, the guy today decided to keep it... now i have a new project: an old rc p-51..... any ideas of who made it??? very nice plane(little dirty in the pictures). any cool ideas of what i should do with it? it came with the plane, engine, ang extras like starters, plugs, glow starter and more!

if you have any ideas of what to do, or who made it.... post it!


and it was $70
was posted on the wrong forum...

20nascar2020 03-11-2010 08:30 PM

RE: SEAMASTER
 
hey well, i origionally was getting a sea master, til' he changed his mind.....

ORIGINAL: Shrike15

hmm... I have no idea what that has to do with the Seamaster. I have a feeling:

well, the guy today decided to keep it... now i have a new project: an old rc p-51..... any ideas of who made it??? very nice plane(little dirty in the pictures). any cool ideas of what i should do with it? it came with the plane, engine, ang extras like starters, plugs, glow starter and more!

if you have any ideas of what to do, or who made it.... post it!


and it was $70
was posted on the wrong forum...

Shrike15 03-12-2010 01:24 AM

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ohhhhhh haha I get it now. Sorry bout that, mate! That sucks that he's not gonna sell it to you. O well. Fix up that P-51... and put it on floats!!! haha

20nascar2020 03-12-2010 07:17 AM

RE: SEAMASTER
 
yeah :)
it'll be a navy plane! :)

scale only 4 me 03-12-2010 07:25 AM

RE: SEAMASTER
 


ORIGINAL: Shrike15

well... you're right, in the end we still got a decent deal on the thing, lol.

The dimensions of the box are 10'' x 15'' x 51''
Wow,
I guessed smaller before,
My UPS calulater gives that box a billable weight of 40 lbs., that box would cost me $54 from here to Cali

Doesn't look like he marking up shipping much or any after all.

Enjoy the plane


Shrike15 03-12-2010 05:53 PM

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That's reassuring :) I'll put up some pics next week when I get it assembled.

PeterC 03-17-2010 03:20 PM

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Since this thread seems to have diverted from Seamasters to USPS gripes I would like to get back on topic.
I just acquired a Seamaster 120 which is built up to the point of needing paint. It is covered and primed. After a long look it seems to me it would make a great twin using a pair of OS 90 FS's I have. Does anyone have any experience with something like this? I imagine it would be very much like an enlarged Sea Twin.
Peter

Seamaster 40 for sale 10-24-2010 09:47 PM

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I have a Seamaster 40 Almost Ready to Fly kit NEW in Box unopened. Also havea Thunder Tiger 46 NEW in Box
I bought it from ACE before they stopped manufacturing them. It has sat in my (climate controlled) closet ever since.
Accepting offers.
Aircraft is in Raleigh, NC
you can pick it up or I can ship it to you.
thanks
Tony


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