Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
07-28-2005 | 02:46 PM
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Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
Like not pure gasoline, but mixed with oil like you would use in a 2-stroke lawnmower. Just curious.
07-28-2005 | 03:07 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
I don't have a clue. I was just in the garage today and saw some mixed gas/oil I use in my outboard engine for my little fishing boat and it got me thinking.
07-28-2005 | 06:55 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
I'm not even sure if it would ignite with a glow plug. If you have ever been shocked by a spark plug/wire, you know it packs a punch... Might also damage your tank and fuel lines.
07-28-2005 | 08:34 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
What if it worked perfect and all these years we have been getting scammed into buying this special fuel. That would be like a dream to get a gallon of fuel for like $2.50 lol.
07-28-2005 | 10:20 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
diesel engines use glow plugs, so im guessing you would be barking up the wrong tree using petrol anyway (or gas as you americans call it)
07-29-2005 | 01:20 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
Ok.. fine then easy enough.. diesel mixed with oil like you would on a 2-stroke gasoline.
Comon.. SOMEONE has gotta try it!! I know you boys from beaverstick or SMF have got a few engines laying around...
Comon.. SOMEONE has gotta try it!! I know you boys from beaverstick or SMF have got a few engines laying around...
07-29-2005 | 07:34 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
I doubt it would work.. Surprizingly enough the ignition temperature of gasoline is about 475° F..... (246C)
And as for Diesel... it's about 410F .... (210C)
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/EileenTang.shtml
But.. It could be interesting to see if the plug can get those temps though...
And as for Diesel... it's about 410F .... (210C)
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/EileenTang.shtml
But.. It could be interesting to see if the plug can get those temps though...
07-29-2005 | 07:44 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
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Like not pure gasoline, but mixed with oil like you would use in a 2-stroke lawnmower. Just curious.
Like not pure gasoline, but mixed with oil like you would use in a 2-stroke lawnmower. Just curious.
MAC Engines can use either gasoline of glow fuel. They use a spark plug for gas and glowplug for nitro. So sure it can be done and has been done, just not with a glowplug.
[link=http://www.compagnucci.it/r2004/eng/index.htm]MAC Nitro and Gas Engines[/link]
They also sell some RC's the the states with these engines on them, however they don't sell them as glow fuel engines cause who wants to spend $25/gallon for fuel
[link=http://rcracingent.com]RC runs on Gas or Nitro[/link]
07-29-2005 | 08:19 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
Glow plugs have two functions—get the engine started and keep it running. By passing a low voltage electric current through the plug's wire element, a high temperature orange-white glow is produced; this allows the engine to be started when the proper mixture of fuel and air is present within the combustion chamber. After starting, the source of the electric current is removed from the plug … but it continues to glow, keeping the engine running.
A glow plug works by a combination of catalytic action, compressive heating, and the ability to retain a portion of its heat from cycle to cycle. First, the platinum alloy coil of wire within the plug's cavity heats-up as it comes in contact with the fuel's methyl alcohol vapor; this is a heat releasing catalytic action. Next, the temperature of the plug's wire element is further increased by the engine's compression of the air-fuel mixture. This increase in temperature allows for the ignition of the second componenet of the fuel mixture, the nitro methane. Without this 2 stage ignition process, glow engines would be incapable of producing any power ( if ran on methyl alcohol alone) , or would run too hot for the materials that the engine is constructed from ( if running nitro methane alone ). Manufacturers produce glow plugs in various heat ranges: hot, medium, and cold. Many factors determine the heat range, but it's important to note that hot plugs advance the ignition point timing, while cold plugs retard it.
Gasoline will ignite at 536f ( 280c ). Methyl alcohol will not ignite until it reaches 725f (385c). The Nitro Methane in glow fuel will not ignite until it reaches 800f ( 427c )!
By the nature of a glow plug, the gasoline vapor would detonate on contact with the super heated glow plug. The resulting uncontrolled explosion would destroy the motor, and probably injure or kill anyone standing around.
DO NOT EVER USE GASOLINE IN A GLOW POWERED ENGINE! EVER!
A glow plug works by a combination of catalytic action, compressive heating, and the ability to retain a portion of its heat from cycle to cycle. First, the platinum alloy coil of wire within the plug's cavity heats-up as it comes in contact with the fuel's methyl alcohol vapor; this is a heat releasing catalytic action. Next, the temperature of the plug's wire element is further increased by the engine's compression of the air-fuel mixture. This increase in temperature allows for the ignition of the second componenet of the fuel mixture, the nitro methane. Without this 2 stage ignition process, glow engines would be incapable of producing any power ( if ran on methyl alcohol alone) , or would run too hot for the materials that the engine is constructed from ( if running nitro methane alone ). Manufacturers produce glow plugs in various heat ranges: hot, medium, and cold. Many factors determine the heat range, but it's important to note that hot plugs advance the ignition point timing, while cold plugs retard it.
Gasoline will ignite at 536f ( 280c ). Methyl alcohol will not ignite until it reaches 725f (385c). The Nitro Methane in glow fuel will not ignite until it reaches 800f ( 427c )!
By the nature of a glow plug, the gasoline vapor would detonate on contact with the super heated glow plug. The resulting uncontrolled explosion would destroy the motor, and probably injure or kill anyone standing around.
DO NOT EVER USE GASOLINE IN A GLOW POWERED ENGINE! EVER!
07-29-2005 | 08:27 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
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They also sell some RC's the the states with these engines on them, however they don't sell them as glow fuel engines cause who wants to spend $25/gallon for fuel
[link=http://rcracingent.com]RC runs on Gas or Nitro[/link]
They also sell some RC's the the states with these engines on them, however they don't sell them as glow fuel engines cause who wants to spend $25/gallon for fuel
[link=http://rcracingent.com]RC runs on Gas or Nitro[/link]
07-29-2005 | 09:38 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
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Glow plugs have two functions—get the engine started and keep it running. By passing a low voltage electric current through the plug's wire element, a high temperature orange-white glow is produced; this allows the engine to be started when the proper mixture of fuel and air is present within the combustion chamber. After starting, the source of the electric current is removed from the plug … but it continues to glow, keeping the engine running.
A glow plug works by a combination of catalytic action, compressive heating, and the ability to retain a portion of its heat from cycle to cycle. First, the platinum alloy coil of wire within the plug's cavity heats-up as it comes in contact with the fuel's methyl alcohol vapor; this is a heat releasing catalytic action. Next, the temperature of the plug's wire element is further increased by the engine's compression of the air-fuel mixture. This increase in temperature allows for the ignition of the second componenet of the fuel mixture, the nitro methane. Without this 2 stage ignition process, glow engines would be incapable of producing any power ( if ran on methyl alcohol alone) , or would run too hot for the materials that the engine is constructed from ( if running nitro methane alone ). Manufacturers produce glow plugs in various heat ranges: hot, medium, and cold. Many factors determine the heat range, but it's important to note that hot plugs advance the ignition point timing, while cold plugs retard it.
Gasoline will ignite at 536f ( 280c ). Methyl alcohol will not ignite until it reaches 725f (385c). The Nitro Methane in glow fuel will not ignite until it reaches 800f ( 427c )!
By the nature of a glow plug, the gasoline vapor would detonate on contact with the super heated glow plug. The resulting uncontrolled explosion would destroy the motor, and probably injure or kill anyone standing around.
DO NOT EVER USE GASOLINE IN A GLOW POWERED ENGINE! EVER!
Glow plugs have two functions—get the engine started and keep it running. By passing a low voltage electric current through the plug's wire element, a high temperature orange-white glow is produced; this allows the engine to be started when the proper mixture of fuel and air is present within the combustion chamber. After starting, the source of the electric current is removed from the plug … but it continues to glow, keeping the engine running.
A glow plug works by a combination of catalytic action, compressive heating, and the ability to retain a portion of its heat from cycle to cycle. First, the platinum alloy coil of wire within the plug's cavity heats-up as it comes in contact with the fuel's methyl alcohol vapor; this is a heat releasing catalytic action. Next, the temperature of the plug's wire element is further increased by the engine's compression of the air-fuel mixture. This increase in temperature allows for the ignition of the second componenet of the fuel mixture, the nitro methane. Without this 2 stage ignition process, glow engines would be incapable of producing any power ( if ran on methyl alcohol alone) , or would run too hot for the materials that the engine is constructed from ( if running nitro methane alone ). Manufacturers produce glow plugs in various heat ranges: hot, medium, and cold. Many factors determine the heat range, but it's important to note that hot plugs advance the ignition point timing, while cold plugs retard it.
Gasoline will ignite at 536f ( 280c ). Methyl alcohol will not ignite until it reaches 725f (385c). The Nitro Methane in glow fuel will not ignite until it reaches 800f ( 427c )!
By the nature of a glow plug, the gasoline vapor would detonate on contact with the super heated glow plug. The resulting uncontrolled explosion would destroy the motor, and probably injure or kill anyone standing around.
DO NOT EVER USE GASOLINE IN A GLOW POWERED ENGINE! EVER!
i cant even use desiel?
i have all this stuff laying around and want to know if any think will work
07-29-2005 | 09:54 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
yeah but as previously posted that desiel is about 410F
and the glow plug is 800f so the fumes would ignight right
and the glow plug is 800f so the fumes would ignight right
07-29-2005 | 10:00 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
Better to burst your bubble now, than be visiting you in the ICU after the sugeons spend 7 hours trying to pull the shards of aluminum our of your face and chest, too bad they couldn't save what was left of the hand...
Diesel fuel ignites at temperatures as low as 494 f ( 257c ). Diesel requires tremendous compression to ignite completely, and efficiently. Again, a glow plug would caus premature detonation, raw fuel would burn explosively, and we'd be weeping at your grave side.
Stick with nitro fuel, or go buy a gasoline engine. Don't fart around with this stuff..... Your eyebrows might grow back, but hands and arms wont.
Diesel fuel ignites at temperatures as low as 494 f ( 257c ). Diesel requires tremendous compression to ignite completely, and efficiently. Again, a glow plug would caus premature detonation, raw fuel would burn explosively, and we'd be weeping at your grave side.
Stick with nitro fuel, or go buy a gasoline engine. Don't fart around with this stuff..... Your eyebrows might grow back, but hands and arms wont.
07-29-2005 | 10:05 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
thanks for the wake up call
i was really going to try it
put my welding gloves on,dirtbike helmet, chest protector, and my welding jacket
i was really going to try it
put my welding gloves on,dirtbike helmet, chest protector, and my welding jacket
07-29-2005 | 11:10 AM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
wow looking back on my thoughts i am stupid
my gf would have KILLED me if the piston sleeve in my face didnt
i hate being 17 you do the most stupid things
do they make a small block gas engine?
and not a 350 small block lol
my gf would have KILLED me if the piston sleeve in my face didnt
i hate being 17 you do the most stupid things
do they make a small block gas engine?
and not a 350 small block lol
07-29-2005 | 12:02 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
even if you could get a spark plug that small you would need to use like 110 octane fuel also because of the high compression....diesil uses glow type plugs and really high compression so that might work in a nitro engine...someone try it on a piece of crap that runs but they dont want anymore and see what happens
07-29-2005 | 01:04 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
ORIGINAL: rccars411
Now, how popular and well are these cars?
ORIGINAL: badz
They also sell some RC's the the states with these engines on them, however they don't sell them as glow fuel engines cause who wants to spend $25/gallon for fuel
[link=http://rcracingent.com]RC runs on Gas or Nitro[/link]
They also sell some RC's the the states with these engines on them, however they don't sell them as glow fuel engines cause who wants to spend $25/gallon for fuel
[link=http://rcracingent.com]RC runs on Gas or Nitro[/link]
Hand built and assembled in Italy..I'll know more next week I ordered 3 F1's off them.
07-29-2005 | 01:08 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
Ok guys - I think that this thread has been concluded.
1. You cannot safely use any fuel but the recommended kind in a glow engine.
2. Yes, gasoline type RC engines do exist, just take a look at the 1/6th and 1/5th scale forums here, those all run on regular pump gas.
1. You cannot safely use any fuel but the recommended kind in a glow engine.
2. Yes, gasoline type RC engines do exist, just take a look at the 1/6th and 1/5th scale forums here, those all run on regular pump gas.
07-29-2005 | 01:18 PM
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RE: Has anyone actually TRIED putting gasoline in their nitro?
ORIGINAL: Nitroaddict
Ok guys - I think that this thread has been concluded.
1. You cannot safely use any fuel but the recommended kind in a glow engine.
2. Yes, gasoline type RC engines do exist, just take a look at the 1/6th and 1/5th scale forums here, those all run on regular pump gas.
Ok guys - I think that this thread has been concluded.
1. You cannot safely use any fuel but the recommended kind in a glow engine.
2. Yes, gasoline type RC engines do exist, just take a look at the 1/6th and 1/5th scale forums here, those all run on regular pump gas.
