Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
04-25-2013, 02:44 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
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Get a UL-1 motor with a T-120 esc as they are smooth. Also get 5.5 round connectors for motor,esc, lipos.
Get a UL-1 motor with a T-120 esc as they are smooth. Also get 5.5 round connectors for motor,esc, lipos.
it's going in my JAE with a UL-1 motor for PSpec Rigger
my friend swears he picked up 5mph with this esc [:-]
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=24287
04-25-2013, 05:45 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
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Hi HiBob.
We just usually stick velcro on the batteries & in the hull.
Where in Australia are you. Not in Brizzy by any chance are you.
Hi HiBob.
We just usually stick velcro on the batteries & in the hull.
Where in Australia are you. Not in Brizzy by any chance are you.
Thanks
04-25-2013, 06:38 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Personally I'd say just the normal stuff you probably got right now, it should do just fine...this thread just got me goin on my boat again, except I went opposite of modding. I stuck my stock motor back in it just gunna run it on 4s with a x440 prop, should be a lot smoother running now.
04-25-2013, 07:01 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
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I'm in Sydney. How stong should the velcro be? like industrial strength or just like the bassic stuff I have at home to stick down my car escs.
Thanks
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Hi HiBob.
We just usually stick velcro on the batteries & in the hull.
Where in Australia are you. Not in Brizzy by any chance are you.
Hi HiBob.
We just usually stick velcro on the batteries & in the hull.
Where in Australia are you. Not in Brizzy by any chance are you.
Thanks
when these things flip at 40 50 + you will need the extra grip for the lipos
04-25-2013, 07:47 PM
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Bob.
Ah well. You could have come along to our club if you were up here. I knew it was a longshot.
Yep. As srt10 said, the good stuff & the full width of the packs. When a pack comes loose in a tumble it can punch the hatch clean off the boat.
Ah well. You could have come along to our club if you were up here. I knew it was a longshot.
Yep. As srt10 said, the good stuff & the full width of the packs. When a pack comes loose in a tumble it can punch the hatch clean off the boat.
04-25-2013, 08:16 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Since people are on this thread figure I'll shoot some questions..lookin into buyin this motor for my jr.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22399__Turnigy_HeliDrive_SK3_Competition_Series_ 2839_3600kv_450_size_heli_.html
To much kv on three cell?? I want to run a 60 amp watercooled esc with it. I'm open to suggestions for a setup.. I just want to be able to run the stock motor mount that's why I'm lookin into the 28 mm outrunner
04-25-2013, 10:05 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
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Since people are on this thread figure I'll shoot some questions..lookin into buyin this motor for my jr.
Since people are on this thread figure I'll shoot some questions..lookin into buyin this motor for my jr.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22399__Turnigy_HeliDrive_SK3_Competition_Series_ 2839_3600kv_450_size_heli_.html
To much kv on three cell?? I want to run a 60 amp watercooled esc with it. I'm open to suggestions for a setup.. I just want to be able to run the stock motor mount that's why I'm lookin into the 28 mm outrunner
you need a 36mm motor minimum to run this boat properly
like a UL-1 motor or bigger...
and remember using only 3 cells you will pull more amps to go the same speeds as on 4 cells
depending on prop used on the UL-1 motor you will pull around 65amps or more..
so that's about 1000watts +
so on 3 cell to get the same power your now around 90 amps! + [:-]
04-25-2013, 10:24 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Ok thanks for the response..I went ahead an boight a stinger drive with a flex shaft, a motor mount, some turn find and a x440/3 blade prop. I'm thinking a 3674 2000 kv on 4s will make this thing cruise? Correct me if I'm wrong. What speeds might I get with that setup?
04-26-2013, 12:03 AM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Ok we'll I will go to the hardware on the weekend an get some good stuff.
Josh, what motor mount are you using with the 36mm motor. This is the setup that I want:
Octura x440/3
The motor josh was talking about.
4s
160amp esc
The only thing that is stopping doin these mods is the motor mount. I just don't know how you mount the motor mount into the boat. Also do you think anything would overheat with the above specs?
Again this is in a desperado not an outlaw.
04-26-2013, 04:27 AM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Alright here's the mount I picked up:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-80210
Should do fine in the desperado, it all depends on space in the boat.
04-26-2013, 07:21 AM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
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Alright here's the mount I picked up:
Alright here's the mount I picked up:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-80210
Should do fine in the desperado, it all depends on space in the boat.
04-26-2013, 10:31 AM
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HiBob.
Don't use CA it's too brittle. I just use epoxy. That's what all the holes along the bottom of the mount are for.
Just be sure to scuff the area of the hull to be glued with some 240 grit sand paper.
I used to add a strip of Fibre glass along the mount but I don't bother any more. I just Epoxy a length of carbon rod along them & extend them to the transom & forward to mount the battery tray in some cases.
I'm a great fan of using carbon fibre rod to strengthen motor mounts & hull. So much easier than laying glass in the boat. Takes away all the flex in the hull & the mount is rock solid.
Works on mono's, cats, hydros & riggers.
Here's a few examples.
My 26" delta, The sea Predator, The GP400 I'm building, & the Aqua Passion Cat.
Don't use CA it's too brittle. I just use epoxy. That's what all the holes along the bottom of the mount are for.
Just be sure to scuff the area of the hull to be glued with some 240 grit sand paper.
I used to add a strip of Fibre glass along the mount but I don't bother any more. I just Epoxy a length of carbon rod along them & extend them to the transom & forward to mount the battery tray in some cases.
I'm a great fan of using carbon fibre rod to strengthen motor mounts & hull. So much easier than laying glass in the boat. Takes away all the flex in the hull & the mount is rock solid.
Works on mono's, cats, hydros & riggers.
Here's a few examples.
My 26" delta, The sea Predator, The GP400 I'm building, & the Aqua Passion Cat.
04-26-2013, 12:10 PM
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HiBob.
Don't use CA it's too brittle. I just use epoxy. That's what all the holes along the bottom of the mount are for.
Just be sure to scuff the area of the hull to be glued with some 240 grit sand paper.
I used to add a strip of Fibre glass along the mount but I don't bother any more. I just Epoxy a length of carbon rod along them & extend them to the transom & forward to mount the battery tray in some cases.
I'm a great fan of using carbon fibre rod to strengthen motor mounts & hull. So much easier than laying glass in the boat. Takes away all the flex in the hull & the mount is rock solid.
Works on mono's, cats, hydros & riggers.
Here's a few examples.
My 26'' delta, The sea Predator, The GP400 I'm building, & the Aqua Passion Cat.
HiBob.
Don't use CA it's too brittle. I just use epoxy. That's what all the holes along the bottom of the mount are for.
Just be sure to scuff the area of the hull to be glued with some 240 grit sand paper.
I used to add a strip of Fibre glass along the mount but I don't bother any more. I just Epoxy a length of carbon rod along them & extend them to the transom & forward to mount the battery tray in some cases.
I'm a great fan of using carbon fibre rod to strengthen motor mounts & hull. So much easier than laying glass in the boat. Takes away all the flex in the hull & the mount is rock solid.
Works on mono's, cats, hydros & riggers.
Here's a few examples.
My 26'' delta, The sea Predator, The GP400 I'm building, & the Aqua Passion Cat.
04-26-2013, 01:38 PM
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Better than Leopards. Not quite as efficient as Neu.
I run a couple of the 4082 2150 motors & they come in from a race cooler & run faster than the same size Leopard. And with a bit more capacity left in the pack too.
That 4092 1350kv motor in the GP400 is for 6s but I haven't run it yet so I can't comment on that.
I won't be buying any more Leopards.
I run a couple of the 4082 2150 motors & they come in from a race cooler & run faster than the same size Leopard. And with a bit more capacity left in the pack too.
That 4092 1350kv motor in the GP400 is for 6s but I haven't run it yet so I can't comment on that.
I won't be buying any more Leopards.
04-26-2013, 01:46 PM
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Better than Leopards. Not quite as efficient as Neu.
I run a couple of the 4082 2150 motors & they come in from a race cooler & run faster than the same size Leopard. And with a bit more capacity left in the pack too.
That 4092 1350kv motor in the GP400 is for 6s but I haven't run it yet so I can't comment on that.
I won't be buying any more Leopards.
Better than Leopards. Not quite as efficient as Neu.
I run a couple of the 4082 2150 motors & they come in from a race cooler & run faster than the same size Leopard. And with a bit more capacity left in the pack too.
That 4092 1350kv motor in the GP400 is for 6s but I haven't run it yet so I can't comment on that.
I won't be buying any more Leopards.
one is in my PMono its a 4092 2100kv (?) and it runs much cooler than the Leopard 4092 2080kv did...
I've heard they don't like to rev out as much??? maybe needing bigger props to take advantage of all the power??
I also advanced the timing on it from 3.5* to 15* and it helped pick up more top end without heat
04-26-2013, 06:25 PM
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RE: Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. Brushless
Just realized I bought a 160 amp esc..I hope that is a good thing. Ideas on prop? I have a x440/3 and a grim 42x55 on the way along with a balancing jig. I just epoxied 1/32 ply to the hull, build so far is going smooth.
04-26-2013, 07:25 PM
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So 180 amp with a motor rated at 80 amp is ok? 0.o
So 180 amp with a motor rated at 80 amp is ok? 0.o
I run a 4092 motor on one using 4s and I pull a constant 135-145amps with no issues at all
04-26-2013, 08:10 PM
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OK good to know, i think im fianlly finished gettin my setup right[8D] tell me if this sounds alright for the powertrain setup; 3674 2000kv with a 160 amp aquastar watercooled esc running on 2 2s 5000mah 40c batteries which will be ran in series giving me right around 30,000 rpm's on a 42x55 grim prop.