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Old 04-28-2023, 10:22 AM
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Sie sehen also, er ist verrückt! Und schafft seine eigenen Probleme!

Lehner has zero to do with it.

Luke ist eine schwarze Mamba!!

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Damit bin ich für alle Zeiten fertig. Ich werde einmal sein Narr sein, aber er kann mich nicht noch einmal täuschen!




With Love..his "brother" and "friends again friend"
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5020 Y-D hybrid!!
The REAL 1BOHO!
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Where yall at?
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Old 04-28-2023, 11:02 AM
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Exo,

They kicked me from the site then tried to copy the motor still talking about me using the information and winding templates I sent them to wind the motor. The thread is in German so you can understand it site with bare arms and was never completed for a million reasons. There is no hard feelings between us and I appreciate or PM exchange. In heavy competition I will just always bring a ruler and I suggest you do too. I cant trust anything my brother says.


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Old 04-28-2023, 11:08 AM
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I showed them this IEEE verified BLDC JEWEL
Old 04-28-2023, 11:19 AM
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What did the Lehner consultant say about it b4 I choose Castle and became Toys R Us....


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Hi Clugh,

thanks for the video. Ask the ChatGPT "it should explain to a crocodile how an electric motor works and to a monkey how a magnet system for an electric motor is built.
The 9Nut10Pole motor is a very good solution and the name "Jaguar" fits perfectly.
I'm already looking forward to the ESC.
Instead of ChatGPT you can also use BingKI, which is not yet overcrowded.
You at least have some great news while the speedplane troupe wraps up in your speedplanes and doesn't develop anything new. Sad club.It's a shame that this group doesn't understand the Lehner engine. We would have gotten the engine earlier and converted it into a speed flight engine. They just gossip and didn't understand that the motor as it is was designed for industrial applications. It is clear to everyone that the full steel bell can be exchanged for a lighter version with a stronger magnet system. If I have time, I'll make the CFRP version with a flux guide wedge Halbach magnet system.

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Old 04-28-2023, 11:23 AM
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Today such an ancient treasure from about 2007 has found its way back "home".
I didn't even know that one of the parts was still "outside" on the way.

It is a 6530 engine in the 18N20P configuration of the original Croco project.
Actually, this double 9N10P is theoretically a really fine motor with a very high winding factor and good efficiency, albeit very complex in the winding.

What no one really knew at the time: The very unfavorable pull vectors, even with the "simple" 9N10P, which "helped" this engine to its very rough running, have a massive bell-deforming effect on the double engine.
We called it "egg power" at the time. This also develops a massive axial force component that tore the magnets out of each bond and pushed them down out of the bell.
We had tried to counteract this with the anti-wandering at the lower end of the bell. But that didn't really work out.

That's probably why this configuration was never really used for outrunners. not even in technology.

It is interesting that with the same winding scheme, the 18N16P does not generate this problem.
Something similar was found in the 15N16P vs. 15N14P at the time.
~powecroc~

Here Exo,
The "Scorpion Thumpers" | Page 14 | RC-Network.de

There other "guru" all up on it after I posted it with his typical amateur misunderstanding. None of what I do with the motors is in either of their directions.

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Buy now = Hubert and his boat is toys are us so I can live with that and still have fun with it. I'll never touch that report button. But all always make the moderators aware of the lil game that's being played. I feel that it is an excellent choice for a boat this size and weight. I could not get more rpm out the equally sized Lehner . . A 3040 can turn 60 but it is a smaller motor and cost to my door 780 plus the jacket collet etc whic is fine but why do it from here all the way across the ocean. If chris wanted me to use that he could sen it here he's millionaire. APD, ZUBAX, ZUEZ Wire, have all sent working samples if that's the case.. A BAM 2230 is 1000.00 dollars. Im quite sure Steve can hand wind one for 1700Kv that will turn 60 with the castle rotor and it will cost you every bit of 1150.00 to 1200.00. So Hell yes I looked at the finned sealed machine wound motor with great efficiency and the 60,000 rotor.. You spending alot of cash your looking for best buys. I think its a great alternative option to be competitive with. Some have claimed more reliability with the machine wound American offerings. I'm not saying that but some have. The point is I think it can stand in the ring. It does offer things they don't. Its censored for instance for great low end midrange grunt and specifically matched to a submersible robust inverter. With cryosense cool commutation. The XLX2 is also motor agnostic and set its torque control after running the connected motor. From my professional point of view it is handedly the best bang in competitive rc draw or SAW power systems for your dollar. I have not a single issue with Lehner Motoren. I think they build excellent engines and results always speak for themselves. Dr Jekyll just trips out. As a drag motor I can also bring a case full. No way in hell I can bring a case fulll of Lehner 30 series or 2030's !!

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His real American friend has a case of 22 and 30 series lehners and is no where nears JAGS speeds so you need more than a motor and alot of money spent. Brian Buass on the other hand is running in striking distances with TP so boat design also means quite a bit

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If you goto a German Boating site there is not a expert there that will commit to a Lehner being better than a Neu either. What they willl say is the technical counteracting pros of cons and each design are essentially a wash so American sailors run Neu mostly and Germans run Lehner. I'm obviously American so.... I wont waste my time linking you guys back to that discussion on your own German boating thread OP'd by me 7 years ago so ill just build the boat and would still like legal photos of your :Lehner powered boat that set the record here.

You know you are still here under my hood. I'm not at a point I care yet. But you still have not given me that despite you looking here.

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For me the true essence of friendly competition is to show what is under the hood.. To not show it suggest fear in my mind. A photo hardly tells you alot anyway . It doesn't tell me the depth that why you ask was it measured and what was it. I'm from the country we pop hoods and want you to hear the cam! A friendly competitor cares less. Haven't you watched street outlaws? What's to hide anyway?

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In friendly conversation before a SAW run if I say can i see the bottom of the boat and you say no. Then of course Id protest it!

WOW!
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Im not trying to be funny but when this triple pink, blue, gold and white mutha sucker fully guised by Wesleys hits the water in full Steve Gualtieri CF and then ML Birch I built and painted I promise you Don will love me all over again.

Wait till he sees the CAN BUS capable motor agnostic Talega based inverter I'm putting together with Zubax for UUV and Marine use.

Watch!
I guarantee it like MJ!

Christian aint got nothing for it!
@ Christian,
Tyler who does not know me can tell you how I've never been to any of their competitions etc. etc but if you bring Olivers 4 wing Budweiser around here in IMPBA D-12 with whatever in it its gone eat rooster! and I dont mean chicken.You better check the roster around here. Its includes some of your idols and living legends like John Finch .

"Black Karma" and the "Technician" is also here.

For an accurate replicated cowl & exhaust stack alone all their hearts will be mine. Itz that simple sweetie.





Love you baby...
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I also have no hard feeling about anything on forums so If anyone has their own speed secrets questions or smack talk it can all go Im certainly not hitting any report button. For us and my friends and family smack talk has always been parts of the game but we still help each other and keep secrets too. Im just happy as hell to be building boats again. Motors aren't an issue but i have some nice marine ideas I've put together for the boys. I also have some new tools to actually build some of the things all of us talked about for years. Quiet is kept its 12,000 views here so build the boats with me and lets look at the motors and propellors if you'd like.

You know im going to do it either way if you play with me or not but it is an open invitation I like seeing what other people have done. So let's see some other trick ideas for speed. Anything goes.

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haven't broke the edged yet but I'll have to revise anyway to push the control horns further back from the transom because there has to be room for a short ball link and bellow seal.
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Where's the innovator with the Lap Cat II and twin powercrocos??? I think iill build an outboard that kills it and send it to James in Winterville NC. His laser cut tunnels in my opinion where the best by far. They also made the IMPBA speed LIST!

A prather lap cat II?

Ure kidding right?

Shes only about 30 years old. Of course there hasn't been any improvement in hull design since then.....




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ML Boatworks QX400- IMPBA Q- O/B Tunnel Record run, Fastest Tunnel in the IMPBA

Had some good luck last weekend at the SAW IMPBA trials in Elizabeth City, NC. With the help of Jimmy Johnson (propwork), and Chris Whitrig (lower unit work), we were able to push the Q O/B tunnel record to 78.42 mph, with a fast pass of 79.5 mph!

This is currently the fastest IMPBA O/B tunnel, no matter the size or power. The cool part about it, is the guys listed above, are currently the fastest O/B tunnel in NAMBA at 78.53mph, with a fast pass of over 80mph. They did their record with Nitro power, mine was with FE, so it was pretty cool.

Here is a short video. A guy named Trent just happened to get this one pass in. This was most likely one of the last passes I did of the day, and should have been in the 78.xxmph range.

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QX-400

The first 40 size Tunnel hull kit designed for Fast Electric racing.

The QX-400 is 40" long and 14.5" wide and designed for the new Q class motors and a 6 S batteries and a high performance ESC





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The QX-365 is a 36" hull for a Q size motor

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Get you a new boat and real motor playa!

Hi Christian you can see the OLD Prather hasn't a chance in D-12

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So for the outboards ill show the 2 Germans motor gurus how I'd rewind the motor into a hybrid that runs cooler and makes more torque than the antiquated conventional winding schemes for high poles and high rpm. Every motor of a shelf is wound conventionally..

Right now in the outrunners XNOVA Lightning series 8 pole 24 tooth machine is the outlier in winding topology. It has the same winding factor as a Neu inrunner which is 1!

The reference..

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A full pitch winding

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