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Boaters bear with me why I show the Germans something and get the 664 views to reach 100K views.
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5dWe’re using the Zubax Myxa and Komar ESCs in our small-scale models, and some ESC DC power wire lengths are fairly long (~1m). I know that the length of the wire changes the inductance which causes the voltage to be noisy, and I was wondering what length of DC power wire the Zubax Myxas and Komars are rated for with the onboard capacitors? Do you guys have a recommendation for adding capacitance across the positive and negative DC power wires on these ESCs per unit length of DC power wire (such as uF/m)?
Thanks!

Pavel KirienkoCEO & CTO
4dThis depends not only on the resistance and inductance of the wires (which are affected by their material, cross-sectional area, length, the geometry of their routing, nearby metallic objects, and of course, the connectors and their contamination) but also on the internal resistance of the battery. It is quite difficult to account for all the involved variables, so we recommend empirical observation instead. Run the drive at the maximum power and measure the DC link voltage ripple at or near the controller. If the ripple does not exceed the recommended limits stated in the Telega Reference Manual, you do not need additional capacitance:
An empirical rule we have observed is that 20 μFADC is sufficient for most applications with short DC link wires. More information on this is given in the Mitochondrik LV datasheet, section “DC link capacitance” 2.
ESC Myxa and Komar DC Power Wire Lengths Added Capacitance
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5dWe’re using the Zubax Myxa and Komar ESCs in our small-scale models, and some ESC DC power wire lengths are fairly long (~1m). I know that the length of the wire changes the inductance which causes the voltage to be noisy, and I was wondering what length of DC power wire the Zubax Myxas and Komars are rated for with the onboard capacitors? Do you guys have a recommendation for adding capacitance across the positive and negative DC power wires on these ESCs per unit length of DC power wire (such as uF/m)?
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Pavel KirienkoCEO & CTO
4dThis depends not only on the resistance and inductance of the wires (which are affected by their material, cross-sectional area, length, the geometry of their routing, nearby metallic objects, and of course, the connectors and their contamination) but also on the internal resistance of the battery. It is quite difficult to account for all the involved variables, so we recommend empirical observation instead. Run the drive at the maximum power and measure the DC link voltage ripple at or near the controller. If the ripple does not exceed the recommended limits stated in the Telega Reference Manual, you do not need additional capacitance:
An empirical rule we have observed is that 20 μFADC is sufficient for most applications with short DC link wires. More information on this is given in the Mitochondrik LV datasheet, section “DC link capacitance” 2.
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Customers designing products around Mitochondrik-LV will benefit from the CAD libraries shared in this repository:
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A report button will not change the fact that this information will not be posted by Ralph Okon or Christian Lucas
Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !
Copper .1 watts
Iron 73.6 watts
Esc .8 watts
Battery .1 watt
Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Km˛/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%
To me its quite apparent that the Lener 41 series designed by Christian Lucas cannot do this nor can Ralph Okons Skorpions. If they can beat it post this data!
Period.
96.1 % is a 66% increase in throughput power as compared to 93%
You will never report these facts away they will just post somewhere else.
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Clugh Motors
Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !

Copper .1 watts

Iron 73.6 watts

Esc .8 watts

Battery .1 watt

Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Km˛/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%
To me its quite apparent that the Lener 41 series designed by Christian Lucas cannot do this nor can Ralph Okons Skorpions. If they can beat it post this data!
Period.
96.1 % is a 66% increase in throughput power as compared to 93%
You will never report these facts away they will just post somewhere else.
Regards
Clugh Motors
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 09:46 AM.
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My Rewound Neu outrunners are of a different class of quality. and efficiency. I doubt you will find a photo of one that looks like this anywhere.

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At Zubax I will be presenting topologies such as these to the Jaguar logic Engineers not winds and topologies 100 years old!
Without a doubt I wont present a motor that can only manage 93% Eta
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 09:56 AM.
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If no American supports me how are we now only 142 views from 100,000 which is more than them combined???
Im supported by
APD
Castle
Neumotors
Zubax Electronics
Dieter Gerling
Kosta Kanellis
Sariful Islam
David Dorell
and more
I cannot count all the engineers that have shared their scribes and blessings with me.
The boats illegal or you show the photo with the straight edge across it. Keep it real with yaself that solves it all and clearly not possible to produce such a FACTUAL photo! or one showing a straight V!!!
and about a a million views total. To say I have no support when not one of their threads has even 65 thousand is quite a bit of UNDERSIGHT
u have to add them together to have my following Those are the facts verifiable by the clearly viewable numbers
Im supported by
APD
Castle
Neumotors
Zubax Electronics
Dieter Gerling
Kosta Kanellis
Sariful Islam
David Dorell
and more
I cannot count all the engineers that have shared their scribes and blessings with me.
The boats illegal or you show the photo with the straight edge across it. Keep it real with yaself that solves it all and clearly not possible to produce such a FACTUAL photo! or one showing a straight V!!!
and about a a million views total. To say I have no support when not one of their threads has even 65 thousand is quite a bit of UNDERSIGHT
u have to add them together to have my following Those are the facts verifiable by the clearly viewable numbers
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 10:37 AM.
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Im sorry but it wont be long at this rate u can estimate that by morning that 100k plateau will be reached and will continue to grow even without me on a board. The daily winders news still holds 7 - 10 active viewers a day!
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 10 (2 members and 8 guests)
Clugh*, BOHO1
I dont have to beg for interest . As long as I maintain such an advantage as 3.5% ir state of the art inverters that run QUIETLY they will follow me to the moon.
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Clugh*, BOHO1
I dont have to beg for interest . As long as I maintain such an advantage as 3.5% ir state of the art inverters that run QUIETLY they will follow me to the moon.
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Try again Ralph links no good. I do not have a motor in my camp that is this noisy. You cannot dismiss it!!!
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 10:36 AM.
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Since you took it public, nobody is reporting anything but since it was previously reported I skim the thread every day or so. Post all the information you want, take pot shots and the posts will be removed. I dont have the patience or quite frankly the interest to read every post, if I see it its out, if I see it again....well you know what will happen.
Thanks.
Also, please don't send me PM's (and I'm addressing anyone reading/participating in the thread) about what is or isn't fact, I don't know the subject and again, quite frankly, I don't care. Say what you want, contradict it with facts or opinions all you want as long as its respectful and not personal.
I realize it's in some peoples DNA to be snarky, trust me I used to ref hockey and get cussed at by 8 year olds and parents alike. But it won't be tolerated here.
Thanks.
Also, please don't send me PM's (and I'm addressing anyone reading/participating in the thread) about what is or isn't fact, I don't know the subject and again, quite frankly, I don't care. Say what you want, contradict it with facts or opinions all you want as long as its respectful and not personal.
I realize it's in some peoples DNA to be snarky, trust me I used to ref hockey and get cussed at by 8 year olds and parents alike. But it won't be tolerated here.
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And where are the real motor diagnostics not unilog prop load data?
You never get that
REPORT!
Which gives and accurate account of things like total harmonic distortion and power factor.
Are there any readers here think that might be relevant in a REAL conversation about power system and not euro ces operatives simply trying to sell you overpriced crap?
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Or do you think 600 euros for 93% a fair deal when u can get 95% for 90 dollars. Forget ya report buttons u go pay the inflated az price!
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 11:04 AM.
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HE GET EVERYTHING HES EARNED AND i WONT GO INTO CONVERSATION ABOUT PEOPLE "DNA" BECAUSE THATS REAL CLOSE TO THE EDGE! THE GERMAN WONT SIT HERE AND DOWN AMERICAN PRODUCTS OR OUR SAILORS IN IMPBA OR NAMBA AT 93% EFFICIENCY AND ILLEGAL HULLS
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NO HE WONT COME INTO OUR FORUJMS BECAUSE FABIO BUZZI SENT HIM AND AUTOGRAPHED POST CARD THAT A THE OFFSHORE DIESELBOAT KING IS A BETTER U-1 DESIGNER THANM THE jONES FAMILY . THE EUROPEAN INVASION WONT FLY HERE.

who cares? I dont and the Jones family is still the most prolific in U-1

who cares? I dont and the Jones family is still the most prolific in U-1
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 11:40 AM.
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And neither will a Russian lun hed think id build over a 3 wing Circus. Hes quite high if he believes that will ever happen. The lun is nothing but a russian interpretation of howard hughes spruce goose. THEY LEAD NOTHING HERE
Last edited by Clugh; 05-16-2023 at 11:20 AM.
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HE TELLS YOU i LIE SO WHERE IS THIS DATA FROM HIM SINCE WE SEE HES ALREADY 3% LESS EFFICIENT??
Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !
Copper .1 watts
Iron 73.6 watts
Esc .8 watts
Battery .1 watt
Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Km˛/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%
WHERE IS IT????? YOU CANT SKIM IT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
THESE ARE TECHNICAL PAGES SO WHERE IS THE TECHNIQUE THE AD HOMINEM HE STARTED AND SINCE THAT FROM HIM IS NOT REGULATED I FINISHED IT POINT BLANK
Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !

Copper .1 watts

Iron 73.6 watts

Esc .8 watts

Battery .1 watt

Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Km˛/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%
WHERE IS IT????? YOU CANT SKIM IT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
THESE ARE TECHNICAL PAGES SO WHERE IS THE TECHNIQUE THE AD HOMINEM HE STARTED AND SINCE THAT FROM HIM IS NOT REGULATED I FINISHED IT POINT BLANK
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Yes if you have data to dispute it post it here!!! Opinions mean nothing in technical sections and i do care whats posted because it should be accurate for the readers or it isnt helpful;
and I know now 4 sure they are reporting to try to move the truth from the board.
and I know now 4 sure they are reporting to try to move the truth from the board.