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Old 07-26-2010, 09:32 AM
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Default Couple of boats to choose from

Looking further into rc petrol boats I realized that petrol boats were way to expensive for me. So instead I have decided that an electric boat would be perfect.
After some searching I three boats in UK that I found interesting.

1.Dragon Hobby V24 MDF
I really like the scale look and size of this boat. Unfortunately I could find much info about it, could somebody that owns it give me some info about it? I've seen boats that you have to tape the lid on the boat, is this that kind of boat or once you put the lid on it's waterproof?

2.ProBoat Shockwave 26 BL

Not as nice looking or as big as previous boat. But this one is extremely popular and I think that if I bought some of my own decals i could make it look pretty cool.

3.Aquacraft SuperVee 27 BL
I don't like the look of this boat, but like on the previous boat I can fix it with some decals. Using two 7.2V Ni-Mh packs this boat will be really fast.


I like the V24 MDF the most so far and then the SuperVee 27 BL and theShockwave 26 BL.

Here is the website I will be ordering the boat from:http://www.westbourne-model.co.uk

So which boat should I get?
Old 07-26-2010, 10:18 AM
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Default RE: Couple of boats to choose from

Sounds like you are mostly concerned about the appearance. The SV is going to be much faster than the Shockwave. I don't know about the V24. The SV can be dressed up to look nice as well (see my gallery). Both of those boats are from reputable companies and have upgrade potential. If you get the SV get the R. particulary for hte 2.4G radio.
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Default RE: Couple of boats to choose from

i have the shockwave brushless and to be honest the solid shaft sucks. im in the process of doing an aluminum rudder systema nd flex shaft but stock for stock i would definitly go with the sv27r. mainly cause it has a flex shaft and independant rudder unlike the shockwave i have.
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Default RE: Couple of boats to choose from

Boats #1 and 2 use one lipo pack where as the SV27 you need 2 to run the boat ... I am actually liking the V24 boat but is that the only place that sells it? anyone in the US sell it also? May be a problem to get parts for it that's the only drawback i see..
Old 07-26-2010, 12:20 PM
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Here's one, http://www.storacingproducts.com/dra...s-rc-boat.html
I'm sure that a lot of other shops sell the too though.
Ok, I think that I will take away the Shockwave 26 BL. So now is it the V24 MDF or the SV-27 BL?
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On second thought after seeing the photos of the B24 the drive components and strut and rudder do not look nearly as good as the SV27R....... the B24 has a drive line like the shockwave 26 U joints steerable drive out rear... this is not where as good as what the Super V 27 R has ...what about the proboat fastech this is supposed to be a very good boat?
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Well the thing is that I really want a boat that only uses one battery. 
But if the SuperVee owns the V24, i guess I'm going to go with that one.
I'm not sure if the SuperVee 27 R is available in Europe. I'm not sure about Fastech either.

But I also found the Blackjack 26 BL on the same website which also looks like a really good competitor. Unfortunately, like the SV it also uses 2 batteries.

But if anyone else finds a good rc boat in Europe, please share it!

So could anyone familiar to any of these boats maybe give a short review or something?
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Well the thing is that I really want a boat that only uses one battery.
But if the SuperVee owns the V24, i guess I'm going to go with that one.
I'm not sure if the SuperVee 27 R is available in Europe. I'm not sure about Fastech either.

But I also found the Blackjack 26 BL on the same website which also looks like a really good competitor. Unfortunately, like the SV it also uses 2 batteries.

But if anyone else finds a good rc boat in Europe, please share it!

So could anyone familiar to any of these boats maybe give a short review or something?
The super V 27 is a great boat.... But if you want one battery i guess the others will be ok ....what about the proboat widowmaker that has better running gear than the shockwave 26 and still uses one battery?
http://www.proboatmodels.com/Product...ProdID=PRB3900
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Well, is the Widowmaker faster than the Shockwave?
I really want the Dragon Hobby V24 MDF, unfortunately it seems like nobody knows anything about the boat
I found a site that sells a few parts for it, here.

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Well, is the Widowmaker faster than the Shockwave?
I really want the Dragon Hobby V24 MDF, unfortunately it seems like nobody knows anything about the boat
I found a site that sells a few parts for it, here.

If you like that boat then I say go for it .... you can always upgrade the parts on it if you need to but you may never have to..... the hull looks of very good quality so thats a good thing.

it does look sharp looking!!
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I've changed my mind and I will now purchase a boat from anywhere in the world(preferably U.S). So now I have more boats to choose from. So any recommendations on boat shops or boats that only uses one battery pack, is fast and preferably has a pretty high level of detail are really appreciated!!
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Default RE: Couple of boats to choose from

Only one battery boats are proboat widowmaker 22 and shockwave 26 brushless models there is one more but i don't recall what it was..
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Default RE: Couple of boats to choose from

i have the proboat shockwave and love it. i know you had initially ruled it out but it may be something you want to reconsider if you are looking for a single battery boat. It comes ready for 2s lipo packs but there is also upgrade availability. I personally am in the process of upgrading my esc so that I can run 3s.

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JawzSS another thing to think about you could have probably ran the new 3s life packs 9.6V and proped down and could have ran the stock esc... maybe even on 3s lipo if you prop way down.
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keep in mind, one pack means less power than running 4s [:-]
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Shockwave is great boat but doesnt like chop and isnt as fast as the others. Supervee27r has problems with staying in water but has really good speeds. Fastech is just as fast but does a hell lot better of staying in the water and is a lot more stable. If you dont want to spend so much money, get a single cell boat with a nimh battery .300$ and you can get shockwave 26 brushless running. 450$ for pro boat fastech and like 500$ for supervee 27r according to what i remember. Widowmaker is great too but has bad low speed handling and is around the same speed as shockwave 26. I have no experience with that other boat though.
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Shockwave is great boat but doesnt like chop and isnt as fast as the others. Supervee27r has problems with staying in water but has really good speeds. Fastech is just as fast but does a hell lot better of staying in the water and is a lot more stable. If you dont want to spend so much money, get a single cell boat with a nimh battery .300$ and you can get shockwave 26 brushless running. 450$ for pro boat fastech and like 500$ for supervee 27r according to what i remember. Widowmaker is great too but has bad low speed handling and is around the same speed as shockwave 26. I have no experience with that other boat though.
actually when you setup a SV27r correctly, they stay planted on the water and win races, and faster than the Fastech!
and you can pick one up for only $270 from towerhobbies.. no where near $500 [:-]
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Well, if you have battery thatt is. 270$ + like 150$ for lipo +shipping for both + some like grease and other stuff. Maybe like 450$ (you might get a cheaper deal on lipo depending on where you get it. the 150$ is for 2 lipo at my local hobby shop)
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Shockwave is great boat but doesnt like chop and isnt as fast as the others. Supervee27r has problems with staying in water but has really good speeds. Fastech is just as fast but does a hell lot better of staying in the water and is a lot more stable. If you dont want to spend so much money, get a single cell boat with a nimh battery .300$ and you can get shockwave 26 brushless running. 450$ for pro boat fastech and like 500$ for supervee 27r according to what i remember. Widowmaker is great too but has bad low speed handling and is around the same speed as shockwave 26. I have no experience with that other boat though.
actually when you setup a SV27r correctly, they stay planted on the water and win races, and faster than the Fastech!
and you can pick one up for only $270 from towerhobbies.. no where near $500 [:-]
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Well, if you have battery thatt is. 270$ + like 150$ for lipo +shipping for both + some like grease and other stuff. Maybe like 450$ (you might get a cheaper deal on lipo depending on where you get it. the 150$ is for 2 lipo at my local hobby shop)
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Shockwave is great boat but doesnt like chop and isnt as fast as the others. Supervee27r has problems with staying in water but has really good speeds. Fastech is just as fast but does a hell lot better of staying in the water and is a lot more stable. If you dont want to spend so much money, get a single cell boat with a nimh battery .300$ and you can get shockwave 26 brushless running. 450$ for pro boat fastech and like 500$ for supervee 27r according to what i remember. Widowmaker is great too but has bad low speed handling and is around the same speed as shockwave 26. I have no experience with that other boat though.
actually when you setup a SV27r correctly, they stay planted on the water and win races, and faster than the Fastech!
and you can pick one up for only $270 from towerhobbies.. no where near $500 [:-]

You can get 4 lipo batteries and a sweet charger from HC for a 100 bucks
2bucks for grease and that's it! [:-]
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The SV27 and SW26 are two different class boats completely. The shockwave is definitely more of a budget boat than the SV but the SV is definitely the better boat. If you look around you can find deals on used ones and pick them up fairly cheap. You can also run the SV on one 3s battery if you want, just add another battery or something for counter weight on the other side. That motor will pull VERY LOW current on 3s compared to 4s and you can prop up considerably on 3s. My son and I ran 2 sets of lipos through a SV27 today on 3s with a s215 s/b/p prop and after both runs (back to back) the esc was 78 degrees and the motor was 97 degrees. Obviously you could prop up from there.

We ran a rio ep, sv27, and toysort triton today. Three different class boats and running them together it is quite obvious which boat is the lower, middle, and higher level of performer. The shockwave 26 would be a closer comparison to the rio ep (hull/handling wise) than the SV27 in my opinion.
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You are going to want a 10 amp 100 watt charger at least, a 50 watt charger CAN take close to an hour to charge and balance 5000mah batteries, It's nice to be able to charge at the maximum c rating you can. A 14.4 pack on a 50 watt charger will give you about 3.5 amps, if you pull 3500mah out of your pack it will take about an hour to charge. Almost 7 amps at 100 watts. You can charge all batteries a 1x the capacity, so a 5000mah pack can safely be charged at 5 amps, 10 amps if it can take 2x. At 10 amps it would take you about 25 minutes to charge that 3500mah back into the pack. You can charge and balance 2 2s packs as one 4s pack. A 6s 10 amp 100-150 watt charger should get you through all your charging needs at this point in the hobby. Most of these will charge 12 volt lead acid batteries, ni-mh batteries for your radio and just about any other kind of battery out there!
You are going to want more than one set of batteries whatever you buy, 5 minutes of running and up to an hour charging with a small charger is discouraging.
Buy or build a prop balancer, it's easy to sharpen and balance a prop, you will save money by the time you buy 2 already sharpened and balanced props.
A GOOD set of keys to fit all the set screws and cap screws on the boat, cheap ones will round and mess up your hardware.
Change to a metal prop asap! PLastic brakes way to easily.
The SV is a good boat all around, no need to immediately have to upgrade anything, there are lots of after market parts available for it. Even better now that it comes with a 2.4 radio.
If you want to put a hotter motor in it the base hardware will take the extra power no problems. Set the center of gravity, set the stinger level with the bottom of the boat, trim tabs about level and it will go pretty good right out of the box. A friend of mine has one he put a 2300kv motor in on 4s and it screams 90 amp esc!
Kintec racing has a few 4s boats you might want to look at, cheaper than a SV i believe.
Whatever you do decide on make sure there is good parts support for it, things will break or burn up, water and electronics don't mix very well. It is the nature of boats full scale or model!
Most of the name brand stuff is good and lots of people have posted info on the forums. If you do much reading you will soon see that there is a pretty small number of retailers that most of the experienced guys use, it's really not that big a hobby that word doesn't spread over the internet about peoples experiences with various dealers.
To be honest with you my favorite boat right now is my little nitro rigger with a .15 car motor in it! I find I get more water time out of it, I get about 5 minutes run time, bring it in refill it, give the pull start a couple of yanks a toss it back in the water, In an hour after dinner I can easily run 6-8 tanks of fuel, thats 30-40 minutes running time on a boat I built from plans for less than 200$ including motor, but I did have the radio gear. 40$ a gallon for fuel, thats about 30 tanks, so about 2 1/2 hours running for 40$ and a boat that does high 40 mph, maybe more I've only been ably to time laps by hand.
All of them are fun, once you start you won't be able to stop. You'll be buying empty hulls and putting you existing equipment in them soon you'll have way too many boats! I'm not that bad I only have 7! Planning 3 more over the winter! 2 electrics and another nitro.
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Hi Madworm.

The Shockwave and SV27 are well known, the V24 is the most scale looking boat, but it has the same motor as the much smaller Arpro, the 3635 1520KV outrunner is way too small for this size boat.
Also a universal joint is not an item that should be used in a fast electric.

Basically, the hull is the only item of the V24 that could be used again; you'll need new hardware, a motor, ESC and Lipo(s).

As the V24 is one of the stunning looking Dragon boats it's also better to look at it rather than run it, specially with better hardware and a motor that will make it go 50 mph.
Reason for this is the brittle gelcoat with the softer glasscloth and vinylester layer underneath, just running the boat will cause hairline cracks in the surface...

As you're in the UK take a look here:
http://www.astecmodels.co.uk/catalog...hp?cPath=24_46

Keep in mind that fast electrics have few details for a reason, they simply fall off or get damaged while running the boat.

Regards, Jan.

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