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Wavekatcher 07-09-2012 03:31 PM

Which boat would you get?
 
I have the addiction in a bad wayhttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...unge_smile.gif. I've finally found a legal place to run, and am ready for a bigger FEthan what I already have. (NQD "tear into" and SuperMonoX)

I have a ton of batteries for my aircraft, but not too many 2S packs. I am hoping to use the batteries I already own.

I'm thinking either the Impulse31, Motley Crew, or Revolt 30. I have a good tx and extra rx's. I don't have much free time to build.

I'd like the new Impulse coming out, but it doesn't look available until October.

Where I will be running, should be smooth conditions in the a.m., and slight chop from wind later in the day. (Medium size pond)

Buying from towerhobbies is a plus because I get free shipping and I have $50 off $300 code. Also, I can get discounted price for Pro-Boat from Wholesaletrains.com, but pay out the whazoo for shipping.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...spinnyeyes.gif

Thanks for helping out a fellow addict

MassiveOverkill 07-09-2012 03:47 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Already sick of the SMX?  

Wavekatcher 07-09-2012 04:01 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: MassiveOverkill

Already sick of the SMX?
Just the opposite. (Although I haven't been able to run any boats because of my knee injury) I want more speed. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif I hope all is well for you MassiveO. I wish I had a lake like yours in my backyardhttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...evil_smile.gif


MassiveOverkill 07-09-2012 04:20 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Hope your knee heals quickly. I'm 'waiting' for my stock motor to burn up to install a larger outrunner.  I'm enjoying the lake so much that I'll probably get a paddle boat for the fam and I just ordered a seaplane for it: 

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=17108

kilr95ss 07-09-2012 05:21 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
None of the above, build one! I bought a Thunder Tiger Outlaw Jr. OBL thinking it would be just a fun little boat. Now, the need for speed has hit me and the only thing left in it that's stock is the hull and I've already put a layer of carbon fiber down to strengthen the hull for the upgrades.

Get you a Delta Force mono or cat and build it the way you want.
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=df-delta29

With one of the 40XX motors:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...Leopard+Motors

Add you own size hardware, you have a screamer!

This is the motor/ battery combo I'm putting in the Outlaw Jr.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yM61GM90A0

asupervee72 07-09-2012 09:27 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
guy says he doesn't want to build cause he doesn't have the time... and you suggest a build for him.??

kilr95ss 07-10-2012 01:05 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
That's not a excuse, if you dont have time to build, how do you have time to enjoy the hobby.? If he is going to buy speed, a $200-$300 rtr is not going to buy much. 30mph out of the box doesn't excite you for too long and paying someone to build a FE is gonna cost a whole lot more than doing it yourself.

kilr95ss 07-10-2012 04:24 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
The main reason I say build is because I bought the TT Outlaw Jr. as a RTR and thought it would be good enough. Pretty much, I've paid $200 for a plastic hull since that is the only thing being re-used.

If someone is wanting more speed than what they already have, chances are a RTR is not going satisfy the want for too long.

MadDogDan 07-10-2012 04:57 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
I picked up a Revolt 30 RTR and out of the box I am getting 45 mph. Actually out of the box it ran in the high 30's but a friend gave me another prop to try out and now it does 45mph according to my Garmin. I was in the same position with not enough time to build my own. If he only has 20 or so minutes every now and then to toss the thing in a pond and run some laps, think how long he would have to wait to enjoy his home made boat if the little time he had was used for building.

I am looking for longer run times and already have a1/5scale Baja SC truck with an OBR full mod 29.5cc long rod motor so I am very familiar with gassers. I am going to go with the old Thunderboat style. Set up as a gasser I will be able to run 30 to 45 minutes on a tank. Now the challange is to find an RTR that is well made.

JMHO,
MadDog

Varooom 07-10-2012 05:03 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
I recently bought the Revolt 30. Its pretty quick out of the box, is very stable and handles great, but a prop change, a good 5000, 50c 4S pack, scuff the bottom, and sharpen all the running gear and now she really flies.

I am sure I could have built something quicker but this didn't cost much or take much timeand is really a quality boat for a RTR.

Also a simple motor/ESC change and some 6S power and it will compete with anything its size. Another nice thing is I can do upgrades as time and money permit. Meanwhile I have a fast, fun boat.

I am sure that building your own is probably the best. Dosen't matter if its a car, truck, boat, airplane or Heli but.........
There are some quality RTRs out there that can be alot of fun.

RTRs have really come along way, they are not the junk toys they were 5 or 10years ago. Just pick one with a good solid hull and quality running gear and have FUN!!!

Doug (Varooom)

hobby_man 07-10-2012 05:47 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
what prop???

hobby_man 07-10-2012 05:48 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: MadDogDan

I picked up a Revolt 30 RTR and out of the box I am getting 45 mph. Actually out of the box it ran in the high 30's but a friend gave me another prop to try out and now it does 45mph according to my Garmin. I was in the same position with not enough time to build my own. If he only has 20 or so minutes every now and then to toss the thing in a pond and run some laps, think how long he would have to wait to enjoy his home made boat if the little time he had was used for building.

I am looking for longer run times and already have a 1/5 scale Baja SC truck with an OBR full mod 29.5cc long rod motor so I am very familiar with gassers. I am going to go with the old Thunderboat style. Set up as a gasser I will be able to run 30 to 45 minutes on a tank. Now the challange is to find an RTR that is well made.

JMHO,
MadDog

what prop are you using

kilr95ss 07-10-2012 06:06 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Off topic but for MadDog, there's a guy over on the Dock that's selling the new G300, already has the +1 crank in it!

MadDogDan 07-10-2012 06:57 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
hobby_man:

The prop I am now using is a 47x50

MadDogDan 07-10-2012 07:06 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
kilr95ss:  Where is this Dock you speak of?  I would consider the G300 if I knew where to find it.

MadDog

Wavekatcher 07-10-2012 07:15 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: kilr95ss

That's not a excuse, if you dont have time to build, how do you have time to enjoy the hobby.? If he is going to buy speed, a $200-$300 rtr is not going to buy much. 30mph out of the box doesn't excite you for too long and paying someone to build a FE is gonna cost a whole lot more than doing it yourself.
I do enjoy building, however, I'd rather be flying or piloting. With a full time job, 3 year old son to take care of, and a house to maintain, my "me time" is limited. It took me 4 weeks to mod my NQD. 8 weeks to build my 550 size helicopter. The RTR option for me is the way to go. (Even though most of the time it means READY TO REPAIR or READY TO FAIL)

I like the idea of the Revolt30 with different prop, and sharpened hardware etc.

Thanks to everyone for your help. I'm still open to other ideas, keep em coming!http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ey/msn/lol.gif


MadDogDan 07-10-2012 07:34 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
kilr95ss:

I think I have found the Dock that you are referring to and joined.  However, I cannot find the boat you are talking about.  Can you give the the title of the thread?

MadDog

kilr95ss 07-10-2012 07:53 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
"Jims Rc Boat Dock" Its not a boat, it's the new Zenoah 29.5 engine with 1048 big bore carb. It's in the manufactures for sale area. They are $269 shipped.

kilr95ss 07-10-2012 08:02 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Now, back on topic. As far as a RTR, I would go with the Traxxas Spartan. It's 6s capable out of the box, has aluminum hardware including a adjustable stinger and comes with Castle motor and esc.

hobby_man 07-10-2012 08:45 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 

ORIGINAL: kilr95ss

Now, back on topic. As far as a RTR, I would go with the Traxxas Spartan. It's 6s capable out of the box, has aluminum hardware including a adjustable stinger and comes with Castle motor and esc.

I have this boat, for 2 summers now, you cant run 6S on the stock ESC by castle, it will melt the solder joints on the traxxas plugs, burn out the liner in the drive tube, melt the 3 plugs on the speed control itself and lastly burn up the speed control.

I have a 180amp Turnigy ESC with a wire drive in this boat now. It will go 69.9. The issue is the once I go over 60 the hull is totally out of the water and it will china walk and flip. I drive it full out when the lake is glass.
The Spartan is a real good 4S boat out of the box.

hobby_man 07-10-2012 08:48 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
I have the Revolt 30 as well, I have owned it since it came out. I had to send it back for a new motor/speed control 3 weeks ago, the motor compartment gets real hot running on 4S 10,000 mah lipo's
8 minute run time full throttle

Varooom 07-10-2012 08:59 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Hobby man,

I put a 47x50 on my Revolt. I wouldn't say its the perfect prop but its quite a bit faster than the stocker and dosn't seem to shorten run time or over heat anything.

Varooom

Wavekatcher 07-10-2012 09:05 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: kilr95ss

Now, back on topic. As far as a RTR, I would go with the Traxxas Spartan. It's 6s capable out of the box, has aluminum hardware including a adjustable stinger and comes with Castle motor and esc.
I'll pass on the Traxxas Fartan.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ngue_smile.gif All the reading/research I've done says the Fartan is the biggest POS FE anyone could ever waste their money on. No offense to Spartan owners, what do I know as a newb anyway?


stoneenforcer 07-10-2012 09:35 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
what about the UL1 or Miss Excite? you like hydros?

Wavekatcher 07-10-2012 03:51 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: stoneenforcer

what about the UL1 or Miss Excite? you like hydros?
I've read good things about the UL-1. I'm not sure a Hydro could handle the chop I may encounter if I am running when it is windy. Hydros require smooth water, correct?


MassiveOverkill 07-10-2012 04:33 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Ask Bill Oxidean abouit the X Blaze over on OSE. 

fatbill69 07-10-2012 07:08 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
If the water is relatively calm, just get a Hornet tunnel from Hobby King. I have seen bids and it hits high speeds out of the box.

Wavekatcher 07-10-2012 08:39 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: fatbill69

If the water is relatively calm, just get a Hornet tunnel from Hobby King. I have seen bids and it hits high speeds out of the box.
Thanks fatbill.

Looks to be backordered. Should be available again NEXT year knowing Hobby King.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif


Sessholvlaru 07-10-2012 09:00 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Hobby King Genesis on 8S. Gorgeous boat, runs like a scalded dog. 75.5 mph is my best so far.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2tRWrJZt6c&feature=email&email=comment_re ceived[/youtube]

fatbill69 07-11-2012 04:59 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: Wavekatcher



ORIGINAL: fatbill69

If the water is relatively calm, just get a Hornet tunnel from Hobby King. I have seen bids and it hits high speeds out of the box.
Thanks fatbill.

Looks to be backordered. Should be available again NEXT year knowing Hobby King.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/biggrin.gif


Lol. You could probably find another source. But if not, Pro Boat's Stiletto is a screamer out of box, and I've also heard good things about Thunder Tiger's electric tunnel hull. I've you put the Stiletto in the water and hammer the throttle, it will actually flip over! It has quite the power for a RTR.
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fatbill69 07-12-2012 06:33 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Here is a Hornet on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRO-Fibergla...item3a6ac8b5e5

Get a tunnel and you'll see why I'm so obsessed with them!

srt10 07-12-2012 08:49 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: fatbill69



ORIGINAL: Wavekatcher



ORIGINAL: fatbill69

If the water is relatively calm, just get a Hornet tunnel from Hobby King. I have seen bids and it hits high speeds out of the box.
Thanks fatbill.

Looks to be backordered. Should be available again NEXT year knowing Hobby King.[img][/img]


Lol. You could probably find another source. But if not, Pro Boat's Stiletto is a screamer out of box, and I've also heard good things about Thunder Tiger's electric tunnel hull. I've you put the Stiletto in the water and hammer the throttle, it will actually flip over! It has quite the power for a RTR.
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LOL, screamer out of the box.... :D
oh man, if you think that boat is fast try a PS295 on UL-1 power!
it will lap that ProBoat ;)

srt10 07-12-2012 08:51 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: Wavekatcher

I have the addiction in a bad way[img][/img]. I've finally found a legal place to run, and am ready for a bigger FE than what I already have. (NQD ''tear into'' and SuperMonoX)

I have a ton of batteries for my aircraft, but not too many 2S packs. I am hoping to use the batteries I already own.

I'm thinking either the Impulse31, Motley Crew, or Revolt 30. I have a good tx and extra rx's. I don't have much free time to build.

I'd like the new Impulse coming out, but it doesn't look available until October.

Where I will be running, should be smooth conditions in the a.m., and slight chop from wind later in the day. (Medium size pond)

Buying from towerhobbies is a plus because I get free shipping and I have $50 off $300 code. Also, I can get discounted price for Pro-Boat from Wholesaletrains.com, but pay out the whazoo for shipping.[img][/img]

Thanks for helping out a fellow addict

I vote Revolt30!
I've raced against that boat and they do very well with the right prop ;)

fatbill69 07-13-2012 05:10 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Clearly the stiletto will not be capable of speeds seen with MLboatworks racing boats. But they are not ready to run, are they? I have heard the stiletto can approach speeds of 45mph, but I know the ps295 will almost do 70. Also, what do you mean by UL1 setup? I'm looking to get a ps295 for when the new REKlegs come out, and on the website it says use a UL1 motor, and Ihave no idea what that is. Do they mean the same motor the aquacraft UL1 superior uses?

srt10 07-13-2012 05:39 AM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: fatbill69

Clearly the stiletto will not be capable of speeds seen with ML boatworks racing boats. But they are not ready to run, are they? I have heard the stiletto can approach speeds of 45mph, but I know the ps295 will almost do 70. Also, what do you mean by UL1 setup? I'm looking to get a ps295 for when the new REK legs come out, and on the website it says use a UL1 motor, and I have no idea what that is. Do they mean the same motor the aquacraft UL1 superior uses?


LOL
sounds like you don't really know much about these do ya! [:-]

the Stiletto id kinda a crap boat IMO
they are RTR but need lots of work to be race worthy!!!
45mph out of the stiletto?? LOL not even close... maybe on a windy day going down hill.. :D
in know cuz I had one... even darin who helped develop the thing sold his for a much better racer....

oh and the rek lower is not to be used on the PS295.. OS all the way!

Wavekatcher 07-15-2012 01:50 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Thanks everyone for the input.

I don't think a tunnel hull will be good for me. too much wind in the afternoon. I'm leaning towards the Revolt 30 Rx ready. Although, I'm intrigued by the Motley. Not too excited about the plastic prop it comes with. Any of these RTR's I purchase I will be changing out the shaft and props and connectors.

I would like to get at least 1 run without having to change anything. So maybe the Motley is out of the question. The Motley is tempting w/ the $30 mail in rebate that is good for buying more parts, and I have the $50 off code for tower,

I also like the Impulse 31. I can get that boat for $300 plus shipping.

Decisions,decisions, decisionshttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...spinnyeyes.gif

MassiveOverkill 07-15-2012 02:08 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Wave, you going to make a rig so you can use your SMX as a rescue boat?

Wavekatcher 07-15-2012 02:47 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 


ORIGINAL: MassiveOverkill

Wave, you going to make a rig so you can use your SMX as a rescue boat?
I will be using my NQD jet boat for a rescue. Tennis ball w/ 20lb fishing line. Put the ball in the nook behind the drivers, motor out and around troubled boat and pull ball with boat back in.

Or just have my Labrador retriever do it for mehttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...unge_smile.gif

Just kidding, I DON'T have a dog and would never do something as stupid as having a dog retrieve an RC Boat.

I like the idea of using the baby ducks (w/ hooks attached) from the rc jet duck setup. Would prolly work perfect w/ my jet boat.

The SMX is purely for speed runs. I love the roost she throws up.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ey/msn/lol.gif Thats why I want something bigger and faster.

srt10 07-15-2012 02:59 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
Blow off the plastic prop thing on the MC
You will want a M445 for it any ways for it... and the Revolt you'll want to get a M445 or maybe even a M447 for that boat as well.. ;)

Wavekatcher 07-20-2012 08:12 PM

RE: Which boat would you get?
 
My early b-day present arrived today......Silver/red Revolt 30. Ordered up some Zippy 2s 5000mah 45c batteries to power her. OSE upgrade flex shaft, thrust bearing, and will buy new props too when they are back in stock.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/thumbup.gif


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