**Cigarette Racing Apache AMG replica - BUILD**
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**Cigarette Racing Apache AMG replica - BUILD**
Hello to all,
as anticipated, here is the beginning of my Apache build. A lot of pictures, hope this is of interest!
Here is Mart's Waverider Apache hull, completely reinforced with a layer of carbon inside (two at the back).
This is a very nice and solid hull, that I would buy again for sure.
Some minor aesthetic issues, but easely corrected. This hull is made by hand, and has a soul of its own!
before:
after:
The Cigarette AMG Hatch build:
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I rebuilded this hatch with the following procedure:
- ply wood
- 6x layers of fibreglass, laminated withepoxyglue
- special resin filler layer (blue)
- gel coat
Hatch Ready to paint!
- ply wood
- 6x layers of fibreglass, laminated withepoxyglue
- special resin filler layer (blue)
- gel coat
Hatch Ready to paint!
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The parts buildlist:
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part | brand | model | quantity |
Order 1 | |||
MOTOR | RCMK | New 520S EVO motor | 1 |
MOTOR | RCMK | Throttle Arm | 2 |
Engine mount | RCMK | RCMK Engine Mount for RZ254 | 1 |
COOLING | RCMK | 0402000001 - Water Outlet | 6 |
SHAFT assembly | RMCK | 2406000012 - Flexible wire 250 80cm | 1 |
SHAFT assembly | RMCK | 2406000014 - Flexible wire 250 R 80cm | 1 |
SHAFT assembly | RMCK | 0809000002 - Brass Teflon Tube 1/4 60mm | 2 |
SHAFT assembly | RMCK | 0809000003-Brass tube mount | 2 |
Servo Linkage | RMCK | 0811000001 - Linkage Rod 31 | 4 |
Engine mount | RMCK | Zenoah Engine mount rail(Part No.0201000007) | 1 |
Order 2 | brand | qty | |
DRIVES | RMCK | RCMK Arneson Drive set (twin drives with linkage) | 1 |
DRIVES | RMCK | Spare metal drive line+joint | 2 |
EXHAUST | RCMK | 88mm 90header | 1 |
EXHAUST | RMCK | 58mm 90 header | 1 |
SCALE | RMCK | Cowl Lock Front | 1 |
WATER LINE | RMCK | Fitting AW M5-90 | 4 |
EXHAUST | RMCK | Muffler Mount M2 | 1 |
EXHAUST | RMCK | Muffler End 3 | 2 |
EXHAUST | RMCK | Muffler End 2 | 2 |
AGREED/paid for | |||
Brass Tube 250 | 1 | ||
Engine Spares + Gaskets (carburator and head are important!) | 2 | ||
part | brand | model | qty. |
0 | |||
ELECTRICS | PMB | Water Pump | 0 |
ELECTRICS | PMB | GA20 - Waterproof Switch | 1 |
part | brand | model | qty. |
TRIM TABS | WD200 | order 6002 - Trim Tab 2 | 1 |
GEARBOX | WD200 | order 2010 - GETRIEBE 1 | 1 |
FUEL TANK | WD200 | order 3115 - Fuel tank Big (aluminium grey) | 1 |
SEVO BOX | WD200 | order4020 - 160*200mm (aluminium grey) | 1 |
feet for RC box + feet for internal division panel? | |||
part | brand | model | qty. |
SHAFT assembly | MHZ | 2256-Flexwellensicherung mit Abfanglager 6,35 mm | 2 |
COOLING | MHZ | 1585/P Water Pump | 2 |
FUEL | MHZ | 1906 N -Schnellbetankungs - Ventil für Benzin | 2 |
BODY | MHZ | 1798/K-Cowl-Loks klein, 1 Stck. | 3 |
BODY | MHZ | 1016/N - Auto Bailer New | 1 |
SERVO | MHZ | 1644 - Rubber cuff - 8/35 mm | 2 |
MHZ | 1649 - Rubber cuff - 10/56mm | 2 | |
MHZ | 1586Y - Y Splitter f. 3,5-5mm Tube | 2 | |
MHZ | 1859 - Gas - Kabelsatz für Walbro Vergaser - NEU | 1 | |
MHZ | 1551 - Silicon Schlauch / Hose 3 mm | 1 | |
part | brand | model | qty. |
BATTERY | CHEAP BATTERY PACKS | 6v - 5000Mah Custo NIMH Pack | 1 |
COOLING | SHALLER COMPOSITI | Various Building Materials | 1 |
SERVO | HOBBY KING/BMS | BMS-L530DMG+HS 1/5 Scale Digital Servo (MG) 19.8kg / .15sec / 140.5g | 3 |
KILL SWITCH | KILLER RC | Killer RC - Killer Bee Kit 2 | 2 |
Painting | KORO DESIGN | Custom Paint Job | 1 |
part | brand | model | qty. |
Building Materials | PROMISE HOBBY | M4 threaded water nipples for rc boat 5pcs | 1 |
Building Materials | PROMISE HOBBY | M5 threaded water nipples for rc boat-5pcs | 1 |
EXHAUST | PROMISE HOBBY | Dual water cool flange for 23-26cc gas engine-silver | 2 |
EXHAUST | PROMISE HOBBY | fluororubber o-ring for exhause pipe & manifold-6 pcs | 1 |
EXHAUST | PROMISE HOBBY | alu exhaust pipe saver for 7/8" or 22mm header | 2 |
EXHAUST | PROMISE HOBBY | Stainless steel mufflered pipe for marine engine boat | 2 |
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At last youve started ,really like the changes you made to the hatch looks just like the real thing.
Look forward to seeing your progress.
Mart
Look forward to seeing your progress.
Mart
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Yup, thank you mate,
got most of the parts here, all the others are on their way, should have all the list within November (the RCMK drives will be the last to arrive)!
got most of the parts here, all the others are on their way, should have all the list within November (the RCMK drives will be the last to arrive)!
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Hi JP,
was looking at your friends boat the AMG and was thinking how about making your hatch so its hinged and have some kind of mechanism that will hold it in the upright positon just lik the real one.I remember seeing this on a model before and it looked cool,just an idea hope you dont mind me making suggestions .Its great to see someone building a scale Apache for a change.
Mart
was looking at your friends boat the AMG and was thinking how about making your hatch so its hinged and have some kind of mechanism that will hold it in the upright positon just lik the real one.I remember seeing this on a model before and it looked cool,just an idea hope you dont mind me making suggestions .Its great to see someone building a scale Apache for a change.
Mart
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Looks great,
How much were the drives???
sent you a pm, I have the decals for the logo, scale guages, and also real scale vents, window frames,
where can I get couplers to take some single big bore RCMKs and make my own inlines, I have a Hydro lift Hull, my RCMKinlines will not fit in the sponson, and I want to have quads in this scale build.
you cant beat Mr Park,and RCMK
How much were the drives???
sent you a pm, I have the decals for the logo, scale guages, and also real scale vents, window frames,
where can I get couplers to take some single big bore RCMKs and make my own inlines, I have a Hydro lift Hull, my RCMKinlines will not fit in the sponson, and I want to have quads in this scale build.
you cant beat Mr Park,and RCMK
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The rcmk 520 is smaller than two motors joined together at only 8 1/4" long and at $638 its probably cheaper than two engines at $279 each plus any coupler youd need also.
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If you already have the single motors, and need to join them, maybe you will be interested in these people's work: http://sonicracingaustralia.com/enginemounts.htm
Mart pointed them out to me.
Mart,
I do like your suggestions, and please keep them coming!
The idea of opening the hatch up from the back is interesting, but the system should permit quick release too, in order to enable me to work in the boat...
Will put my thinking cap on this and see what comes up.
At the moment I am trying to study amechanism that should enable me to servo-trim the new RCMK Arneson drives...
Mart pointed them out to me.
Mart,
I do like your suggestions, and please keep them coming!
The idea of opening the hatch up from the back is interesting, but the system should permit quick release too, in order to enable me to work in the boat...
Will put my thinking cap on this and see what comes up.
At the moment I am trying to study amechanism that should enable me to servo-trim the new RCMK Arneson drives...
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OHH im full of ideas m8 ,putting them into action is another thing .Im sure you or someone will come up with something that could work.Can you do me a favour JP whats the height of that inline as i want to make the Arrow high enough to accept them so need to know how low i can go with the deck and how high i need to make the cowl etc.
Mart
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Sure,
from the base of the engine mount (lowest point) to the top of the spark cap installes, the height is of 173mm.
from the base of the engine mount (lowest point) to the top of the spark cap installes, the height is of 173mm.
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the width is what is causing me the problem,,, the s254 has the coil mounted on top
againI ask what was the cost on the drives???,,,Really important before I order something else
what is the part # of the RCMK drives??
againI ask what was the cost on the drives???,,,Really important before I order something else
what is the part # of the RCMK drives??
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No problem: that measure is 168mm.
PLEASE NOTE that the alloy housing for the coil packs is lower than that part, so you will need the clearance that I stated before for this motor.
Here are a couple of pics, hope they show this clearly:
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Hi there,
today I finally received my props from PropShop UK.
They are two couples, one of 6518/3, the other 6717/3, all in Stainless Steel.
Here are the pics:
6717/3
6518/3
today I finally received my props from PropShop UK.
They are two couples, one of 6518/3, the other 6717/3, all in Stainless Steel.
Here are the pics:
6717/3
6518/3
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All the Propshop props are supposed to be balanced and sharpened. Look good to me, but have not tested them yet
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Which drives are you using? I cant seem to find any arneson drives on the RCMK site, could you post me a link?
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Which drives are you using? I cant seem to find any arneson drives on the RCMK site, could you post me a link?
Which drives are you using? I cant seem to find any arneson drives on the RCMK site, could you post me a link?
The drives are now in production, still not for sale. Should be ready in December to the public.
Here are some pics of them, in early development: http://imageevent.com/justaddwata/morerc/info/rcmkdrive
- Yes RC Guy, I hope they will come in the given times...