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Old 06-10-2012, 11:06 AM
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Hi Guys,

Im about to put a 30cc Zen in my Makara. Just wondering what pipes you'duse withit?
Jack
Old 06-10-2012, 02:34 PM
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If its allowed to be (very) loud : Zipp-kits 2 stage.

If you want it Naviga-ruling (-82dB) my design (VARL30) made by Frank Langwald ; [link=http://www.edelstahl-reso.de.tl/Home.htm]Website[/link]
Old 06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
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30cc will work fine on any 26cc silenced pipes sold in UK
Old 06-11-2012, 09:43 AM
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Want to try something abit new! I have 2 of your pipes know Dave i also have a bonzi quite pipe... The bonzi pipe never seems to come onto pipe!! Never liked to Rev.
Your CS28 is on my Makara at the moment..... So just want to try a different pipe see if it make any difference to speed.
Im getting 51.3mph out of it know with a tunned 26.

Its getting a tuned 30 so hopefully will be able to pull a bigger prop.

Jack

Old 06-21-2012, 04:10 PM
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Try the CS24a pipe, very good. Thats a pretty good speed from a Makara that you are getting there, we have two fast ones on our lake and both are running 30.5 Zenoah based motors.

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Old 06-22-2012, 02:46 AM
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Cheers... Im wanting to hit the high 50's with a 30 motor... See what we can do!!
Makara is really stable in the water!!!
Old 06-22-2012, 12:57 PM
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Inquireing minds wants to know .. what's a Makara ? ... Link to website ?

Saw a YouTube video of a Fiat Uno / Apache like hull with big wing.

Don't think as you have a pipe from Dave ... another exhaust will SOUND faster , speed will be about the same.
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I'll email you a photo Henck, basically an apache..

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ORIGINAL: HendricX

Inquiring minds wants to know .. what's a Makara ? ... Link to website ?

Saw a YouTube video of a Fiat Uno / Apache like hull with big wing.

Don't think as you have a pipe from Dave ... another exhaust will SOUND faster , speed will be about the same.
[link=http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/deepvboats.htm]The Makara[/link], Dave seems to have the molds now. It used to be made by Paul Firmin, Nimrif Models.
Old 06-25-2012, 09:24 AM
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Yes it very simlar to the apache Hull..

What kind of speeds are people getting out of the Makara, Apache hulls?

yer i know pipes wont make a great deal of diffrence but i just like to experiment with different set ups!
Old 06-25-2012, 09:34 AM
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Hi Hendrix
the hull with the Big wing is known over here in the UK as the Super Hawaii, I mate of mine is building an 80 version at the moment.

Bob.
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Thanks for the clarification boy's

Ha ha ..... did not expect a 'play-boat' on Dave's website.

Allthough Martin (Waverider) will surely condemn my expresion of 'play-boat' .... ha ha .... sorry mate.
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Yes it very simlar to the apache Hull..

What kind of speeds are people getting out of the Makara, Apache hulls?

yer i know pipes wont make a great deal of diffrence but i just like to experiment with different set ups!

I hit 52 with mine on GPS with the 30.5cc big bore. Try not to get too hung up on top speed on these, set it up for good acceleration off the turns and stability and you will have a great time with it, it is the one boat of mine that just runs in any weather, great fun and never get bored with it.

Pipes actually do make a good deal of difference. One thing to be wary of if you run the top on yours is heat build up from the pipe is significant, I wrapped my pipe in fibre rope to reduce the effects, plenty of ventilation needed.


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ORIGINAL: HendricX

Inquiring minds wants to know .. what's a Makara ? ... Link to website ?

Saw a YouTube video of a Fiat Uno / Apache like hull with big wing.

Don't think as you have a pipe from Dave ... another exhaust will SOUND faster , speed will be about the same.
[link=http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/deepvboats.htm]The Makara[/link], Dave seems to have the molds now. It used to be made by Paul Firmin, Nimrif Models.
I don't have any Makara moulds. Paul Firmin would probably cut his right arm off before he would sell them to me.
Makara looks to me like an Apache 57 but with a longer hatch for ease of building.
Old 06-26-2012, 06:41 AM
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Thanks for the clarification boy's

Ha ha ..... did not expect a 'play-boat' on Dave's website.

Allthough Martin (Waverider) will surely condemn my expresion of 'play-boat' .... ha ha .... sorry mate.
Hey Henk im quite happy building play boats (Apache 58) that have hit 59 mph with a single 30 cc zenoah lol.
A cpl of guys running the Zen 7 see 52 mph,good speed for these type of hulls.Be interesting to see how fast Bobs runs with the inline k600 and twin drives with the 6717/3 props once he gets her dialed in.
But i agree with Glenn dong get obsessed with top speed set her up for good all round performance and enjoy them,you cant beat them in the chop.
Mart
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Does anyone know whats a good steel pipe to run with a Deep Vee header?
If that combo is possible....

Thanks Peter
Old 06-27-2012, 04:04 AM
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Whichever pipe you use you wont be able to tune the motor to its max,if you want top performance and a deep vee style pipe id go with the qd hot pipe.Or ask Don Holly to build you a custom one if needed see link.
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http://www.jrcbd.com/showthread.php?...ight=deep+pipe
Old 06-27-2012, 07:23 AM
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Whichever pipe you use you wont be able to tune the motor to its max,if you want top performance and a deep vee style pipe id go with the qd hot pipe.Or ask Don Holly to build you a custom one if needed see link.
Mart
http://www.jrcbd.com/showthread.php?...ight=deep+pipe

DOn Shanks (Shankteck) is the man like Mart said
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Hehehe thats got nos!!!!
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ah ...... yep

... boys &toys

http://youtu.be/q8hheOM2MS0


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Ive bought pipes from Don before, very nice guy to deal with..
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Don is top

Custom spec's at NO charge ... come already with 'baked-on' paint.

And his welding is growing nicer and nicer
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Ive heard theres a guy in Holland isnt too bad at making pipes but his name escapes me .
Mart
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Ive heard theres a guy in Holland isnt too bad at making pipes but his name escapes me .
Mart
I dunno know Mart..... I heard he may be a older fellow and might be cranky ................
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Hi Mart
my Deep V's are dons pipes, here yer go get some air under it.
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