Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Boats > Speed - RC Gas Boats
Reload this Page >

70" CRC Outerlimits Build

Community
Search
Notices
Speed - RC Gas Boats Discuss gas RC boats right here!

70" CRC Outerlimits Build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-16-2014, 09:38 PM
  #26  
martno1fan
Senior Member
 
martno1fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: blackpool, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 11,390
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bgalles
Thanks SS RC! When I spoke with GIZMOTOR they said that motor will pump out 8.25 - 8.5hp and they've seen RPM up to 22k
LOL and if Gizmo says it it must be true PMSL.
Old 05-17-2014, 03:11 AM
  #27  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bgalles
Thanks Alex, I saw those on their site. They are an option, I'm thinking I may go the magnetic route. That's how I do all my planes. But I do like the idea of a lock on boat in the event of a flip. Don't want the hatch to pull free.
Originally Posted by martno1fan
The magnets are best way to go,with locks in a high speed flip the hatch WILL most likely come off breaking away at the fixing points,with magnets this cant happen,just make sure your hatch has floatation.
Mart
I agree with Mart as i have had hatch locks split hatch when trying to break away from hull during a flip. It caused me more headache just to fix them back. I have been using magnets ever since and many others have gone the same route. Hatch locks are of the past now! I get my magnets from Ross Medina @ Full Throttle RC Racing….he also runs Rossi Sales/Speedmaster Hardware with Harry so you can contact him at their shop.
Old 05-19-2014, 01:00 PM
  #28  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So what is a proper steering servo to use? I bought a Hitec HS-805MG 1/4 scale, but dog gone this thing is huge! Is there something you all might have recommended instead?
Old 05-19-2014, 02:08 PM
  #29  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That is a tad bit bigger than most 1/4 scale servos so you may have a little trouble finding a servo tray to fit it. I know the Speedmaster 1/4 scale servo tray will be a little too small for it. I have used the Hitec HS-5755MG and HS-5765MH in most builds and they barely fit the Speedmaster 1/4 scale trays with little or no room to spare. Lately I have been using the Futaba S9157 for steering which is a standard size servo but with 425oz. torque @ 6v. You can also use the Futaba S5302 1/4 scale servo.
Old 05-19-2014, 03:03 PM
  #30  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks SS RC! Funny you mention the futaba S9157. I just got a Tower flyer in the mail and ear marked that one and the S9156.
Old 06-02-2014, 04:17 PM
  #31  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

She's here!sitting next to my 70" fountain. For CG should I subtract the 5" transom over hang? Recommend 30% for CG? I ask cause I know a few on here have built this beast.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140602_181724308_HDR.jpg
Views:	1539
Size:	3.04 MB
ID:	2000710   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140602_181715808_HDR.jpg
Views:	1496
Size:	2.83 MB
ID:	2000712  
Old 06-02-2014, 09:33 PM
  #32  
rcguy1411
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: hamilton, ON, CANADA
Posts: 1,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Correct DON T count the overhang when calculating the cg.
Old 06-03-2014, 11:35 AM
  #33  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Personally i would NOT recommend a 30% COG with that hull. The hull will run very wet and you would not be pleased,especially if you don't run in salt water. From my experience running and building many GTX hulls and knowing what COG changes Mike had to do to his 70" Outerlimits with single mod Gizmo 29cc motor in order for it not to run so wet i would recommend between 25% - 26" COG and nothing more.
Old 06-03-2014, 12:46 PM
  #34  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ok 25%-26%, great info. I'm also running a 30cc single
Old 06-04-2014, 06:31 AM
  #35  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Got the transom gear mounted up. Should I have mounted the trims out farther or am I good?
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140603_222637865_HDR.jpg
Views:	1608
Size:	2.56 MB
ID:	2001082  
Old 06-04-2014, 02:56 PM
  #36  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Definitely out further!
Old 06-04-2014, 04:58 PM
  #37  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How far out? They are out 1" now from center. Should I go 3" out oe All the way to edge?
Old 06-04-2014, 07:03 PM
  #38  
mistycreekboats
My Feedback: (1)
 
mistycreekboats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PG, BC - Canada
Posts: 927
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Depending on the tabs and the boat - most mono's I've done with single tabs the edge starts at least 2" from center of transom

Not sure with that hull but those are pretty close I'd move them out

RD

One of my favorite boats

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	SV43-1.jpg
Views:	1804
Size:	91.9 KB
ID:	2001287  

Last edited by mistycreekboats; 06-05-2014 at 10:18 AM.
Old 06-05-2014, 06:41 AM
  #39  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

2 1/2" from keel to inner edge of tab will be fine. That's the measurement I'm used on 2 of 4 GTX hulls I'm built and the Outerlimits is the same bottom. My personal GTX was 3" to inner egde but I noticed no difference in handling in calm or rough water conditions.
Old 06-05-2014, 10:20 AM
  #40  
mistycreekboats
My Feedback: (1)
 
mistycreekboats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PG, BC - Canada
Posts: 927
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by SS RC Boats
2 1/2" from keel to inner edge of tab will be fine. That's the measurement I'm used on 2 of 4 GTX hulls I'm built and the Outerlimits is the same bottom. My personal GTX was 3" to inner egde but I noticed no difference in handling in calm or rough water conditions.
That sounds like good advice - I'd go with SS RC info.

Cheers
Old 06-09-2014, 05:45 AM
  #41  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Got some work done on the hull this weekend. Only thing left is to add the T-bar and oilier, Hard mount the radio box, & connect the linkages for throttle and rudder - then get some testing in.
Here are a few pics.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_210300134_HDR.jpg
Views:	1547
Size:	2.76 MB
ID:	2002687   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_210748052_HDR.jpg
Views:	1531
Size:	3.03 MB
ID:	2002688   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_212014477_HDR.jpg
Views:	1417
Size:	2.90 MB
ID:	2002689   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_212136920_HDR.jpg
Views:	1498
Size:	3.19 MB
ID:	2002690   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_212220859_HDR.jpg
Views:	1413
Size:	2.67 MB
ID:	2002691   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_214100504_HDR.jpg
Views:	1721
Size:	2.89 MB
ID:	2002692   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140608_214109578_HDR.jpg
Views:	1630
Size:	2.88 MB
ID:	2002693  
Old 06-09-2014, 10:43 AM
  #42  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Looking good but a few suggestions....

Turn exhaust cooling flange around so hoses enter and exit from front. Waterline from rudder you want enter from bottom on flange and exit from top. I would also move water outlets in front of pipe header. That way you stand less chance of hoses touching pipe and burning a hole in water line.

You have plenty air in but little ventilation out of hull. General rule of thumb is 1:3...so you want 3 times as much ventilation exiting the hull. You can get away with a 1:2 ratio though. If you don't want holes to be seen cut them in bottom side of overhang.

Also turn your full tank around so when bow lifts and tank is low it will still be forced towards fuel pickup. The way it is now,if tanks runs low while getting bow lift the fuel will be going away from fuel pickup and it will loose fuel suction.
Old 06-10-2014, 06:45 AM
  #43  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Fantastic suggestions - I actually have 4 more air duct coming from MHZ Germany, just waiting for them to get here. My plan was to mount them on the under side of the transom over hang. Took your suggestion and re-routed the water cooling lines as you stated

I'm not sure I understand your suggestion regarding the fuel tank...The way I have it positioned, the fuel pick up/clunk is at the back of the tank near the engine. Shouldn't that be correct?

Any suggestion on how to mount the radio box vs. just sending some screws threw it into the engine rails?

Thanks again for all the help!
-BG
Old 06-10-2014, 07:53 AM
  #44  
SS RC Boats
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pembroke, BERMUDA
Posts: 536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ok if you have the clunk at the back your in the right direction. With the radio box you can get two small hooks from hardware store an screw into engine rails that way you just hook your rubber bands from one hook to the other hook on opposite side and your good. You can put a rubber mount at front of radio box to stop from moving forward. Or a small square pice of wood with a 6/32" or 8/32" nut and bolt holding it to engine rail.
Old 06-17-2014, 06:25 AM
  #45  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Tabs moved out, pipe outlet added, servo line added, and drive line done. Now I'm just waiting on my last couple of air vents to get here from Germany and she is ready for testing! Then a nice paint scheme.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140616_211408507_HDR.jpg
Views:	1363
Size:	2.77 MB
ID:	2006064   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20140616_211423434_HDR.jpg
Views:	1334
Size:	2.63 MB
ID:	2006065  
Old 06-18-2014, 12:13 PM
  #46  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Some more photos:

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_6.jpg
Views:	1352
Size:	74.1 KB
ID:	2006567   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_7.jpg
Views:	1799
Size:	69.2 KB
ID:	2006568   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_8.jpg
Views:	1715
Size:	74.2 KB
ID:	2006569  
Old 06-18-2014, 12:49 PM
  #47  
bgalles
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

A few more and a pic of my 2400mAh 6.0v receiver packs I made up.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_9.jpg
Views:	1200
Size:	50.9 KB
ID:	2006580   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_10.jpg
Views:	1247
Size:	49.6 KB
ID:	2006581   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_11.jpg
Views:	1225
Size:	59.3 KB
ID:	2006582   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_12.jpg
Views:	1231
Size:	59.2 KB
ID:	2006583   Click image for larger version

Name:	70_Outerlimits_13.jpg
Views:	1227
Size:	49.7 KB
ID:	2006584  
Old 11-26-2020, 11:24 AM
  #48  
ChrisK7
My Feedback: (14)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Stanfield, OR
Posts: 116
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Did you ever get this thing in the water? How did it do?
Old 11-30-2020, 10:22 PM
  #49  
Justaddwata
My Feedback: (3)
 
Justaddwata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: RI-USA, RI
Posts: 6,161
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ChrisK7
Did you ever get this thing in the water? How did it do?
you may want to PM or email him as he has not logged in in over 4 years unfortunately

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.