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Old 06-13-2009, 09:17 AM
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Darin, the props I have rotate left from what I can tell...I thinkthe RH props are the Counter-Rotating side...

twooley, I have not played with ready-sttrip...the only thing I have any experience with is the PeelAway...and that was my first time with it as well.

it was highly suggested to cover with plastic wrap so it did mnot dry out while "working"...I, of course, had to try it my own way first to realize I should have listened (please do not tell my wife).
Old 06-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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Darin, the props I have rotate left from what I can tell...I thinkthe RH props are the Counter-Rotating side...

twooley, I have not played with ready-sttrip...the only thing I have any experience with is the PeelAway...and that was my first time with it as well.

it was highly suggested to cover with plastic wrap so it did mnot dry out while "working"...I, of course, had to try it my own way first to realize I should have listened (please do not tell my wife).
lol ready strip didnt say it keep it moist or anything so i just put it on and left it, it didnt work, so I have to put it on again when i have time keep it wet and covered than i will see how it works, i got it for cheap too! $15 for a gallon becuase sherwin williams isn't caring it in the gallon anymore, it was the last one as well. but I'll let you know how it works when i do it again.
Old 06-20-2009, 04:58 PM
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Tah-DAH!

Sickmodelpowerboats called me on Friday to let em know the paint was finished...HOLYCOW!!!! I know beauty is in the eye...but, I was SUPER EXCITED when he turned on the shop lights...take a peak. Here is how it turned out. Now all I have to do is find a few hours to get it re-rigged and ready for the WHATTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 06-20-2009, 05:48 PM
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WOW!  She's a Beaut!  Came a long way from your before pics!  Keep it up!!  Dave
Old 06-21-2009, 06:27 AM
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wow very nice! I've been thinking of upsizing to a 55" scarab... i jsut miss building something. Would actualy like to see if i could make a scale centerconsole version if possible.
Old 06-21-2009, 08:00 AM
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Thanks guys. It it a lot of fun to see it finally start taking shape (especially after the fiberglass work).

That Center Console would be really fun!

Old 06-21-2009, 08:07 AM
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Can I buy it now??? lol, it looks amazing!!!
Old 06-21-2009, 08:24 AM
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that is funny...everything is for sale
Old 06-21-2009, 08:52 AM
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WOW your project turned out really great . Thanks for sharing .
Old 06-21-2009, 06:46 PM
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Holy Cow, Floggin, that thing is beautiful!!! Iplan on doing mine very similar- to mimic the real thing. BTW- have you figured out how much of that hatch you'll have to cut out to get your Zen in?? Iwas thinking of making another seat or something, to cover it up.


Regarding my project, I just received a NIB 38kV from a gentleman who actually owns one of the Miam Vice boats- once he sends me some pics, I will try to model my boat after his. In addition to the plans that you have, I received an 8 page booklet describing the build, as written by Dumas. I will try to scan this into a PDF for you to use. Note that Dumas recommends a nitro motor and a subsurface drive, but our boats should handle so much better with the surface setup.

My MarineTex White is on the way, so I'll begin blueprinting this hull as you did. Thanks for all of the articles!!

Since this is my first build, and I'm no fiberglass expert, can you recommend a good polyester resin to get, and where to get it?? Thanks!!

Keep the pics coming!

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Old 06-24-2009, 05:06 PM
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Hey Darin! Thanks man...I wish i could take credit for te paint...all I did was grab a paint sheet and pick a couple colors I thought looked close...printed a couple of full scale scarab shots and hand it all over to sickmodelpowerboats...WHALAAH. He is GOOOOOOD.

I am excited for your new project...what a fun way to start (blank canvas). Just remember to be patient...the blueprinting is not super tough...jut labor and patience-intensive.

I am not the guy to suggest polyester resins as I used all West Systems Epoxy and hardeners when I needed to glass stuff I got it all from West Marine around the corner from the house. Don't forget the gloves, mixing sticks, eye protection...
Old 06-24-2009, 06:24 PM
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Thanks guys. It it a lot of fun to see it finally start taking shape (especially after the fiberglass work).

That Center Console would be really fun!

They are Fun ! .... pretty easy too with the kits available from J-tec.
They have quite a few scale choices too.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:39 AM
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Scott,

Thanks for the info...now that is cool guage clusters!
Old 06-26-2009, 08:21 AM
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Getting her back to ship-shape. The Re-Rig begins:
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:21 PM
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that outdrive looks great along with the trim tabs!!! Where did you pick those up from?
Old 06-27-2009, 09:43 AM
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Thanks man...the drive is from WD200 it is www.wd200-modellbau DOT de His stuff is really well made and his customer service has been flawless to this point.

Good guy and good stuff.

The trim tabs are MHZ peices I have has sitting around for a while. The are one of the most scale-looking K-Planes I have found!
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Harvey- love the water pickups!! I've been struggling with what kind of drive/rudder system to get for this thing. Does that drive have good steering articulation? What effect will the bending have on the shaft movement- in other words, will the friction when turning eat up that teflon tube quickly?? I'm kind of at a standstill here- I love the Z drives, but waaayyyy too much money, and too many moving parts!! I like this one- I can paint it to look like a mercruiser drive.

Let me know what you think!

Thanks

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Very good questions. I think it will be more than enough. I have a Video some place that Werner sent me (the guy that designed and built the drives). The only thing they do not have is a way to trim the angle up/down. They look awesome and I was really just planning a fuin build/run boat. It is what it is for me on this.

Werner suggested a 1/4 scale steering servo with at least 250 oz of torque for his drive. You can opt not to take the teflon all the way out but it really doesn't make all that much difference according to what he explained and keeps the trasom of the boat a TON cleaner.

I have a Rico Offshore on the deck when the work bench gets more organized and I am using Speedmaster hardware (Stinger, 6" standoff Rudder and dual water pickup, the new billet tabs, and turn fins). This is one setup guys are using for racing and I may want to race the Rico later down the road...thought I better conform a bit more on a proven setup for that one.

I MUCH prefer the scale lools of the wd200 drive and with the Scarab that is what it is ALL about. Here is a picture of another person's boat with the same speedmaster setup I chose for the Rico.
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:47 PM
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Thanks man. I surely don't want to be a copy cat here! But the fact that it looks so scale, and the cost of it is justified since additional rudders are not required, does it for me.

How is that thing secured to the transom?? Hard to tell from the pics.

I just received my sharpened/balanced 7015-3 today- and holy cow, what an amazing job Chris did!! That thing cuts paper!

Thanks

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No worries about copying...we are all using proven methods (which is an eloquent way of saying COPIED METHODS )

I would use one of these WD200 drives for sure if you like it (that is exactly how I justified spending the money myself).

I used 4 M5 bolts and washers (it is trasom plate of the drive is drilled and tapped for them) and used loctite to help set them without over-tightening... here is an inside picture...
Old 06-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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Tried to attach a photo but my CPU is acting up???

Look at the first post on page one...there is an inside shot of the drive, a pic of the mesures that Werner sent me and picture of the template I made for drilling the holes...if that doesn't get it shoot me an e-mail and i will go into more detail.
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Got it man- thanks! I'll go ahead and order this. I'm dremeling the flash off the cowl and the hull tonight, probably going to glass in the transom doubler tonight.

Thanks!

Darin
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How did the trimming go?
Old 06-28-2009, 10:38 AM
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The trimming was easy- no problems at all. The hatch has some warpage at the front dashboard- so I'll have to put some L-brackets on that to make it 90 degrees. I also cut out the arch slots too.
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Nice...humming right along! Here are a couple of pix of my progress when I could sneak some time in yesterday...this is taking F O R E V E R.
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