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lildude2599 02-17-2009 01:11 PM

Fiberglass?
 
Can you thin out fiberglass? If there is something that will can you list it. And most of all will it work with the hardner and set up the fiberglass? Open for any ideas.

cheesewizz69 02-17-2009 02:29 PM

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Styrene or Acetone and yes it works with the resin and hardner. It depends on what type of resin you are using. Ask DreminHemi for details and take a look at his build thread.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_79...tm.htm#7912646

Gerwin Brommer 02-17-2009 04:40 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
Heat it up, and you'll need less epoxy to soak the glassfiber.

lildude2599 02-17-2009 06:48 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
I'm going to use it as a sealer for my boat. Just want those small edges to not fill in.

Dreamin Hemi 02-17-2009 09:41 PM

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Looks like I arrived too late. What is mentioned above will thin things out to accomplish what I think your doing. Heating up the resin to thin will work to a degree (pun intended;)) however will severely limit your work time so I would not recommend it. When properly mixed with catalyst at normal temperatures (65-80F) you will have about 20 minutes +/- a few. Heat up that same mixture and you may cut the work time in half because it will kick off MUCH earlier. Now if you plan only to do a small part, than go ahead and heat....but how can you safely do that? Just use styrene or acetone to accomplish your goals. Just my $.02.

Gerwin Brommer 02-18-2009 11:44 AM

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@ Hemi :

20 minutes potlife ?
Are we talking polyester or fast curing-epoxy ???
I would never use that ****
24h-epoxy rulez :D

**Mod edit....language**

lildude2599 02-18-2009 08:49 PM

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I just want to do the bottom where it steps down. I don't want rounded edges. The area i am wanting to apply this is at the red arrow.

45deepvee 02-18-2009 09:03 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
i dont mean to stray off topic. but where do you guys get the plans for these cats? id love to build one from scratch from wood like that.

Dana W 02-18-2009 09:40 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
If your applying it to balsa wood just brush on some super glue .

nvs motorsports 02-18-2009 10:12 PM

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Hey gerwin why does epoxy rule :)
Ive got an epoxy boat and it is a weak piece of rubbish and a true pain in the but to repair (H AN M BRAND) not cheap boat
Polyester or vinylester boats far more user friendly to make and repair and believe it vinyl is stronger by far epoxy is only good if you have core laminate
The majority of guys on here prefer to keep it simple and easily repairable
Oh before you argue im a composite technician ;)

Sorry for straying from topic but gerwin try to be a bit more diplomatic when answering someones post we all have opinions and if they differ its not rubbish (well sorry had to change the s word lol but i think everyone gets it)

Jamming 02-18-2009 11:49 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
Hey NVS i also don't want to jack this thread, But what do you think of Carbon fiber. Can it be repaired ?

MrMikeG 02-19-2009 03:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jamming

Hey NVS i also don't want to jack this thread, But what do you think of Carbon fiber. Can it be repaired ?
The "key" to any repair is to remove the "dead Glass" and overlap your seams. ;)

nvs motorsports 02-19-2009 06:38 AM

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Yes carbon can be repaired
The problem is if it is cosmetic carbon which has the awesome gloss finish can be very hard to repair and have it not noticeable
As for using carbon its expensive and not very structural fo rc boat aplication as it really intended for epoxy core lamination tends to shatter if just straight layup no core
But you got to admit it looks sweet inside a boat as bling factor

bondobuster 02-19-2009 09:18 AM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
Also carbon is very, very itchy to work with when you sand it down for repair. It seems to give me an extra amount of irritation for some reason. Be careful when doing repairs.....

Dreamin Hemi 02-19-2009 09:25 AM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
I use a good respirator when sanding down any composite material. Fortunately I don't ever get irritated skin from sanding/painting/glassing but my lungs definitely know when something wrong is in the air.

Jamming 02-19-2009 11:52 AM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
I was just wondering about some of the cats available that are in carbon fiber, I have had many helicopters with carbon frames and they have a tendency to be brittle in a crash. So i think i will stick with fiberglass thats fairly easy to repair. Thanks !

thevirginian 02-19-2009 12:43 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
The advantage of CF is it is much stronger and lighter than regular fiber glass, so you don't need as much cloth. If you use CF with a criss-cross weave it would conform to round shapes a little easier than straight cloth CF.

cheesewizz69 02-19-2009 02:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: 45deepvee

i dont mean to stray off topic. but where do you guys get the plans for these cats? id love to build one from scratch from wood like that.
Here are some plans I scanned for Craig. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AULPI5O0
But I'm sure if you do a search you can find others.


Follow his build on this thread. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8147804/tm.htm

45deepvee 02-19-2009 03:22 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
sats file needs a password to open it.thanx for the reply also cheese. those are the plans i was looking into

lildude2599 02-19-2009 03:25 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
Hay 45 deepvee i can send them to you if you want a copy of the boat i'm building. Just let me know and i will hook you up.

45deepvee 02-19-2009 03:33 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
you have a pm. thank you


i also like the glass rather then carbon fiber. can easily be repaired by me if i hurt the hull. just my .02

cheesewizz69 02-19-2009 06:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: 45deepvee

sats file needs a password to open it.thanx for the reply also cheese. those are the plans i was looking into
password is "cheesewizz"

It can also be found in the original thread here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_81...tm.htm#8147804 Post 21

painman 02-19-2009 07:39 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
Quick question, what is the easiest way to repair chipped Gelcoat? Yes it is fiberglass. Or do I to spend $50.00 to purchase finishing resin and pigment. Can I just spray with white epoxey paint. Very small area to repair, Last time i purchased a quart of finishing gelcoat and used maybe a couple of ounces. Just to much to go bad before it can be used. Just threw out two cans that went bad. Not much shelf life.

Thanks Randy

45deepvee 02-19-2009 07:40 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 
man i looked at those plas and i think i would be way over my head i think. cutting those peices and figuring it all out would make me nuts. man i want a mystic hull

Dreamin Hemi 02-19-2009 07:53 PM

RE: Fiberglass?
 

ORIGINAL: painman

Quick question, what is the easiest way to repair chipped Gelcoat? Yes it is fiberglass. Or do I to spend $50.00 to purchase finishing resin and pigment. Can I just spray with white epoxey paint. Very small area to repair, Last time i purchased a quart of finishing gelcoat and used maybe a couple of ounces. Just to much to go bad before it can be used. Just threw out two cans that went bad. Not much shelf life.

Thanks Randy
The best recommendation I would give to you would be mix a small amount of gelcoat (even old stuff, just find a good portion) and dab it onto the chip. Using a sort of firm piece of plastic film place that over your dabbed gelcoat and tap over it to work the gel around easily and make it spread out. Leave the plastic film over the damaged area until it fully cures. You will then have a perfectly smooth surface once you remove the plastic.....feathered out better than you could sand. May only require a little buffing to further blend in. Good luck.

Oh yeah, make sure you prep the area making sure there is no grease or wax on and around the area in need of repair.


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