GTdirtracer

please new to the outrigger sceen, want a good .12 plan or boat under $100, does that include hardware, probly not, please help, i like this one but i would like to see finished ones
http://idmracingproducts.com/kitpicturebig.html

ejds66

on ebay have hadro boats

GTdirtracer

thanks i will look

GTdirtracer

none on ebay how about a link to the .12 firefighter

ejds66

1/4 F1 TUNNEL HULL BOAT DPI RC R/C GAS TAMIYA KYOSHO Item number: 6040002314 this is on ebay

GTdirtracer

i dont want your boat i want a .12 outrigger, but that is a nice boat

ejds66

thats not my boat

GTdirtracer

well then but seriously .12 outrigger trying to figure out what i want tonight

GTdirtracer

really liking the bantam 12 by idm racing product, newer than old firefighter

GTdirtracer

really liking the bantam 12 by idm racing product, newer than old firefighter

ejds66

well i got me top speed 2 hydro put a 3.5 outboard i got it from tower hobbles

Ron Olson

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You can get the Firefighter .12 from 2 places, one is from the designer, Tom Moorehouse at www.firefighterboats.com or www.welasercut.com . Being in the US I'd advise going through Tom as getting anything from Canada takes forever.
The boat from Tony Marquart is nice also. Spend the money and get the Solinger strut and rudder combo. It's very light and these boats need all of the lightness that you can put into them.
I've got two .12 'riggers myself so I do have some experience with them.

GTdirtracer

can i get a link to the strut and rudder, by the way decided on the idm boat, i got a picco 12 i am going to use and a mac pipe, please list all other parts i need besides electronics and motor, can i get a link to where you guys buy all your stuff.

Ron Olson

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The Solinger strut and rudder are on Tom's site as he is one of the sellers of it here in the US. Tony might be selling it also.
I've got a Trinity/Picco .12 that I've been using in one of my .12 monos, it's a good little engine for boat use.
You'll need a flywheel. I've been using the one made by OS. The flex cable coupler will be from Octura and flex cable (if the Solinger strudder doesn't come with it) preferably from Hughey.
I get a lot of my stuff from Gary Preusse in the Chicago area. He's not online so you have to call him at 630-279-2451. He won't have the flywheel and a few other pieces but he can set you up with any Octura parts that you need. He's also a Hi-tec dealer so if you need any lightweight servos you can use the HS81-MG's for both duties.

GTdirtracer

i dont know names yet
what type of flywheel
i know what i need now just need more money than expected, im ordering the boat tomarow,and just build it and buy stuff when im ready to install thanks for all the help

Ron Olson

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Here's the flywheel: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCB06&P=RF
If you have the side exhaust Picco without the round port I've found that the Traxxas header works great and even better with a little port matching work done: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXJM08&P=RF
I can help you out a little more as things start happening. Tony sent me a PM earlier today from another forum site. I helped him out a little with getting things going on the kit. He actually had nice enough weather today to get some run time in on his boat.

GTdirtracer

thanks a ton for the link hope to have it put together in 2-3 weeks

GTdirtracer

my motors shaft has been cut cause it was in my rc10gt will that flywheel still fit

Ron Olson

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No, it won't. I picked up some spare Picco's off eBay because I liked them so well and because I had one crank break at the threads (don't ask how it happened but it wasn't pretty). One had the crank cut short for probably an Associated truck and I couldn't use it because there wasn't enough for the flywheel and flex cable coupler. You need the fully threaded shaft. I even tried other flywheels that I had and still no luck.

GTdirtracer

ok so what about an xtm .18 with rear exhaust, and does anyone run surface drives why/whynot is it because the boat needs to be out of the water, like do thes boats run on the prop and the front sponsons more than half the time

GTdirtracer

do you have to run a fly wheel what would happen if you didnt or if i ran it with the truck flywheel or used a heavier truck flywheel

Ron Olson

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The XTM .18 is a wicked engine as my son had the X-Cellerator but you're running into a problem with most .12-.18's that us boaters are running into more and more. It has the SG threaded shaft which is all but impossible to put a flex cable collet onto. You really need the fully threaded shaft, no way around it. A rotary carb is preferred but a slide carb can be hooked up with a little more work. What type of exhaust the engine has is no big deal but finding the right one for a boat takes some shopping.
I've been messing aorund with .12 powered boats since before they got popular and it was much more difficult back then to find parts.
Seeing how you're building a hydro, I hope that this isn't your first boat project as they are a lot tricker to set up than they look.
Yes, it will be a surface drive. If you are new to hydro's, I'd recommend that you start off with a non-lifting prop on that boat to make it more drivable such as a Prather 215 or Octura X-437 or X-438. Save props like the Octura V-937/3 for once you get some time with it.

eas___1990

you can always go the way i went and get the cvrx .18 buggy engine

Ron Olson

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The .18 can be a little much for some of the kits. Tom Moorehouse is working on a Firefighter .18 that will be made to handle the extra power.

As a side note, this year the Hydro Masters is considering including the "A" (.12 class) for the first time to their meet. We'll be waiting to see who wins on Sunday and sells on Monday. I'm expecting the competition to be fierce and seeing how many of the bigger 'rigger owners start buying these little monsters up.

GTdirtracer

could be interesting