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Old 04-05-2006, 12:03 AM
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whats better???

ABS OR WOOD??

what are the ups and downs to each??
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Fiberglass is good wood to
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If you can't build with wood then buy a boat in plastic. Wood is easier to repair. ABS doesn't like nitro and if it's vacuumed formed you don't get the sharp corners on the bottom.
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ABS could warp if left in a hot sun for too long. What is the boat style you are looking at?
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Which is 'best'? Neither. Work with what you are comfortable with.
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ORIGINAL: LtDoc

Work with what you are comfortable with.
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Second that....
Old 04-06-2006, 08:00 AM
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If plastic and fiberglass are so good, why did Noah build his Ark from wood? My choice is wood, next is fiberglass (just for cowls etc), never plastic. Plastic is for cheap toys, can't resist nitro, prone to cracking, flimsy structure and carries the stigma of junk in my eyes.
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John,
Noah built in wood because he lived in a remote area like I do, and everything has to be ordered. The Post office was even slower back then (hard to believe, right?) and it would have taken too long...
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John, there was a slight shortage of fiberglass and ABS plastic in Noah's time!
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John that just cheered me up no end i laughed so much at your post i second Rons words about the shortage of fibreglass and plastic lol.i agree with you on the wood though it is by far the best material of the lot for a start its lighter than fibreglass and much stronger than plastic and abs.if it was a choice between abs and plastic id go plastic at least its rigid unlike abs which bends and bows every which way.id say go wood or if you cant or wont build go fibreglass .thanks for cheering me up today John as i had some bad news today my nan passed away so at least you lifted my spirits a bit .
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Sorry to hear about your Nan but I'm pleased that I have brightened your day. Nothing like a little suttle, dry english humor to lift your spirits.
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John,
Noah built in wood because he lived in a remote area like I do, and everything has to be ordered. The Post office was even slower back then (hard to believe, right?) and it would have taken too long...
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So much for "Neither rain, sleet or snow will keep the postman from his appointed rounds"
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Thanks John dont tell me your English aswell lol
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Default RE: ABS or Wood???

I once made a boat out of 2 jam tins, 4 paddlepop sticks, parts of an old piano and a rubber band.

It started as a boat and ended up a submarine. Worked very well untill the rubber band broke.

Guess I should have taken out the jam.

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the boat is a dumas hot sprint. i ordered wood they sent me abs.

i think ill keep it but. it comes with more goodies.
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ORIGINAL: brettos01

I once made a boat out of 2 jam tins, 4 paddlepop sticks, parts of an old piano and a rubber band.

It started as a boat and ended up a submarine. Worked very well untill the rubber band broke.

Guess I should have taken out the jam.

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I'll bet it was the best tasting boat you ever built. Probably sounded pretty good also.
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You got the deal then as the ABS kit goes for a lot more money. The downside is that it doesn't handle as well. Jerry Dunlap designed it but when they made the mold, the sponsons came out 1/4" too shallow. Dumas, being cheap, never fixed it.
Expect propoising at mid-range speeds, it's the nature of the beast.
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just remember abs isnt fuel proof ,only fuel resistant so clean it well after use or you will have a fast submarine on your hands!!.
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AH HA!!!! More reasons why Noah stuck to wood. That plastic stuff has to many subtle problems. Like I said before, wood is King. Plus if you do it right and don't slop it all up with paint, a clear coated interior and some exterior panels look really good with the wood grain showing. Ask the owner of an old Chris Craft if he'd like a plastic boat. I can tell you what the response would be but I can't print it , Ron would come after me.
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I've run both the ABS and wood frame Dumas Hot Shot Sprint 3.5. My vote would be for the wood boat.
Old 04-09-2006, 10:36 PM
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as the plastic dont like the fuel to much wil paint and a clear coat fix that?? or what should i clean it with after racing??
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Yes, IF you use the right paint. A lot of paints aren't fuelproof.
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Default RE: ABS or Wood???

Wood is the choice for me. I have an ABS Sprint also and like everyone mentions its flexible and not too sharp on the bottom. When you go to install your servos, dont glue the kit part to the bottom of the boat, because it flexes too much for the steering. I made two rails and glued them to the inside of the cockpit walls and THEN glued my tray on top of the rails. This was after I found out the bottom of the boat BUCKLED whenever I turned left or right with the motor, so I had to break it all out and think of another way. The rails work great, solid as a rock. After I glued the rails and the self-made plywood tray, I added the same rail size on top, painting all the wood with epoxy as I went so it stays water and fuel proof. I included a picture so you can see my cobble job. All I had was 1/16th ply at the time, so I also added hardwood rails below the steering servo and on top the tray for the throttle servo for the servo screws to bite into.
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bryan ive heard the water based polyurathane varnish is fuel proof but not the normal one.try that on a scrap piece of plastic and try some fuel on it and see.or if you can get some car laquer (clear coat)spray a few coats of that inside it is fuel proof.or hey take it to your local body shop and see if one of the guys will spray it for you for a few tinnies(beer) lol.
Old 04-20-2006, 11:05 PM
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thanks guys
martno1fan i might just try your idea i know a few pannel shops through our race car i moght see if they have a clear coat that is fuel proof.

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