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Old 12-07-2006, 08:45 PM
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Ok, toyotatruckin and I are going to team up to build some baby riggers. You can download the free plans and build along with us if you would like. Free plans here: http://new.intlwaters.com/FreePlans/...ghterboats.htm

I have pretty much got all the wood cutting done. I only took a couple pictures so far. I made templates out of 1/4" plexi-glass for the tub sides and sponson insides. Then I used my router table with a laminate cutting bit to cut the parts out.

Today I bought:
SH side exhaust .07 engine and manifold
Russian 09 tuned pipe from the same guy selling the russian 09 engines

I'll post more as I progress. I'm not a super fast builder but hope to get a lot done at the christmas holiday.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:57 PM
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HAHA . i am building that boat as i type this . i have the sponson done.
only difference is the fact mine is a total of 12 inches long . and its electric !!.
nice. id like to compare once we are done.
Old 12-07-2006, 09:10 PM
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Thats really cool Tom, Im still gonna try a .12 in my baby rigger but if its gonna be to heavy I guess I will have to goto a smaller engine like you are


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Old 12-07-2006, 09:20 PM
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who did you get the engine from? also I need to know the size of it so I can start scouting out hardware..

Im having trouble with the plans, Im using paint shop pro to open them and for some reason its not wanting to
Old 12-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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Im using paint shop pro to open them and for some reason its not wanting to
thats why . you need to use a CAD program
Old 12-07-2006, 09:35 PM
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www.deltacad.com this is what Tom uses.
Old 12-07-2006, 09:45 PM
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You need a cad program to open them. I use www.deltacad.com or http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html qcad when i'm in linux/freespire.

12 inches, cool, from the free plans?

Gooycheese..... yep, i think too big...... but i guess it wont hurt to try.

I have a fullers strut, a chineese rudder i got a while back, look here:
http://gallery.intlwaters.com/displa...album=28&pos=3 on a blazzin
overall length is 19.8125" - 20.6" depending on how you measure it.

Plan to use a .098 cable.

got the engine from rcmart and pipe from russia. ill let ya know if the transaction goes smoothly.
Old 12-07-2006, 09:51 PM
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Totally awesome Tom. I will be following your build and all the other rigger builds very closely.

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Old 12-07-2006, 09:54 PM
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for my size . i am using a .098 flex to . i am making my hardware because of the size.
Old 12-07-2006, 10:00 PM
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I was gonna try calling Ed Hughey and seeing what he has to say, but I am considering this running gear do ya think it might work for me? "Fullers original rudder assembly, post style with wedge rudder", and the "Standard strut bracket - short". Also Don Templeton said he could hook me up with a hughey .150 strut. I was hoping this stuff would maybe fit.


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Old 12-07-2006, 10:03 PM
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hughey strut would likely be great. the fullers rudder is too thick, nearly 1/4"
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im almost thinking on .130 cable (.07 rigger) due to I have .130 cable on my mono and thats whats going on my .12 rigger I know its a little over kill but might as well stick with the same on everything, buy bulk cable and save!!

forgot to ask,,,,What flywheel are you going to use and did you find out how long the shaft is on that engine?
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gooy,

I'd recommend using the hardware found on the electric powered Renegade Rigger. Octura makes it, and it may be found on offshoreelectrics.com.

Hardware for Renegade Micro Rigger
Octura 3" Aluminum Wedge Rudder. $29.95
Octura 3/16" Aluminum Strut $15.95
Assembled .130 cable with 3/16 to 1/8" step down propeller shaft, Teflon Tubing & bullet nut. $19.99
Octura y531 Plastic Prop $2.00 (more metal props can be found on the props page)
$67.98 for the individual parts.
$59.99 package price


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Old 12-07-2006, 11:16 PM
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Yes Ryan I am considering that for sure, but the renegade rigger is a little wider than mine, my rigger has a transom 2x1 which i am pretty sure is smaller than the renegade. Also the renegade stuff by octura has the rudder on the leftside not the right, thats the way octura i guess makes it. I have corresponded with I think his name is Steve Elias (owner renegade rigger) he said thats the way the hardware comes.


Thanks Paul
Old 12-10-2006, 11:01 AM
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Hi guys, so what going on with the baby rigger here? I was hoping to see a engine mocked up in a partial tub soon? I am waiting in anticipation. Hey Tom I have a question for you if my baby rigger is too heavy, would it be possible to build bigger sponsons? I know this boat just has to barely float lol but I don't want it to sink. Does the trailing edge need to stay where its at? Could I extend the front of them say 1-2 inches, could they be say 1/2 inch wider? These are just ideas I still haven't got the boat finished enough to see if it sinks or floats


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Old 12-10-2006, 02:01 PM
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Well I work too much OT to be a fast builder. Here is where i'm at. today I drilled the holes. Stack them up, tape them together and use the drill press to make the holes. Then I used a round file in a drill to get the holes the exact right size. Only thing missing is foam for the rears. I know ya can't tell but that's everything for 2 boats.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:46 PM
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commin right along tom, I had some custom boom tube clamps made for mine didnt like the wheel collars having only the set screw as a pressure point plus they were heavy, doing the front sponson's up with some epoxy now, mine is going slow also ive been very busy with my job as well
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Looks great Tom, would you have any recomendations on the width I should set my sponson? Im guessing about 14 inches, just to give the boat some stability. I will try the whole thing in a tub just to see how it floats before I will even consider putting the boat in the ice I made the nose peice and the rim for the radio box cover to sit on. Also order the header and tuned pipe and another 5mm threaded to .130 coupler, I am chosing not to use the .150 coupler.



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Old 12-11-2006, 10:12 PM
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gooy,

I'd recommend using the hardware found on the electric powered Renegade Rigger. Octura makes it, and it may be found on offshoreelectrics.com.

Hardware for Renegade Micro Rigger
Octura 3" Aluminum Wedge Rudder. $29.95
Octura 3/16" Aluminum Strut $15.95
Assembled .130 cable with 3/16 to 1/8" step down propeller shaft, Teflon Tubing & bullet nut. $19.99
Octura y531 Plastic Prop $2.00 (more metal props can be found on the props page)
$67.98 for the individual parts.
$59.99 package price


Ryan
Just an FYI. I had contacted them about this package when looking at what to use to upgrade my old rigger. I was told that the package does not include any brackets...might be common knowledge to others...but was news to me, so thought I would pass it along.
Old 12-11-2006, 10:24 PM
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however wide i made the baby rigger should be good for yours also. if you go too wide it will act wierd in the turns.
Old 12-11-2006, 10:49 PM
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hay tom I was looking at hardware for my .12 rigger and was thinking about this
http://offshoreelectrics.com/images/...t_rudd_pkg.JPG
what do you think?
Old 12-13-2006, 11:05 PM
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So whats going on with these builds, I am still waitning on some parts to mock some more up so until then i wont have anymore pics (but soon I should).


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Old 12-27-2006, 12:16 PM
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I got my engine from china. Now I still need my pipe from russia....I got it from: http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=38_987 The looks are just like the Trinity engine but the specs show it as significantly bigger. Looks Nice!

Here is a picture to show the size of the babby rigger engine. I took this picture with the other air cooled engines I have. First is the Babby Rigger engine the SH .07. Next you have a Sirio .15 and last a Orion .26. It's really a neat little engine. Looks very well made. The bad part is the .12 size collet/flywheel wont work. The shaft size is smaller. I have to figure someting out. Might need to be custom.



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Tom,

I have a feeling the SH is a knock off of the Trinity engine. I was looking forward to hearing how it runs though. I guess you can't beat the price for sure.
If you need any help with getting things to work I do have a small lathe and a CNC milling machine and would be glad to help any way I can(I just got the mill up and running so I'm pretty greeen with it still).

Later,
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:02 PM
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cool, I just might need help with that....

went away for a couple days. i see i forgot the pics....




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