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01-01-2007, 10:07 PM
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Looking for a boat to build.
I was on line trying to find a hydro kit, I would like to build a fast boat. I was thinking about buying a pro boat hull 1/8 size and go from there, $400 just for the hull. I saw the video on the one post with all the boats racing, were do you get plans or kits? What is best for building wood, plastic, fiberglass any tips would be great.
01-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
Build one!! You can get plans at newtonmarine.com.there 35 dollars.I can get a proboat one for 300 dollars.But I rather build one.at least it will go fast.Go check out 1/8 scale hydro build thread that hydrojunkie as posted.
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
proboats hulls arent very good, usually weak and wont survive anying more than the setup they were intended to use...
i think buying an emptey hull would be better, but if you want to build, i havent seen too many hydroplane kits and i forgot where they are.
check out finedesignrc.com they have a bunch of hulls from different companies....
i think buying an emptey hull would be better, but if you want to build, i havent seen too many hydroplane kits and i forgot where they are.
check out finedesignrc.com they have a bunch of hulls from different companies....
01-01-2007, 10:24 PM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
I agree, build one. Can't go wrong wth one of Roger Newton's plans either. If you plan on racing IMPBA, don't get the Proboat. My understanding it's not legal to run 1/8 scale.
01-01-2007, 11:23 PM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
Dumas boats, still carries some 8th scale model hydro kits,at (www.dumasestore.com),,,If you have never built a hydro before ,I would go this route, Not Roger Newton prints for a first time build, they can be a little tricky (but they come out really nice if you have some hydroplain build knowledge under your belt).Dumas carries smaller hydros in a sport 40 & sport 20 type hull, and there is Brian Blazer of (www.blazermarine.com)he carries some sport series hulls,
01-02-2007, 12:24 AM
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Newton's plans aren't all that bad for a beginner, as long as the beginner sticks to a boat similar to what I'm building in the thread. Jumping in on a modern turbine is asking for trouble as you have a lot more to fine tune than on an earlier pickleforks like one of the Pay N Pak or Atlas Van Lines hulls.
Dumas still has a couple of 1/8th scale boats, but they are very heavy and not too well balanced by modern competitive standards. They require all the internal framing to be replaced (for starters) just to get the weight down to a reasonable level.
What can I say about the Pro Boat hulls that hasn't been said? Poor quality in workmanship, thin layups, cheaply made hardware and balance that's so far off that the boat is prone to blowing over without major reworking. I can build a Newton hull for a lot less and have a better hull than anything Pro Boat sells.
Dumas still has a couple of 1/8th scale boats, but they are very heavy and not too well balanced by modern competitive standards. They require all the internal framing to be replaced (for starters) just to get the weight down to a reasonable level.
What can I say about the Pro Boat hulls that hasn't been said? Poor quality in workmanship, thin layups, cheaply made hardware and balance that's so far off that the boat is prone to blowing over without major reworking. I can build a Newton hull for a lot less and have a better hull than anything Pro Boat sells.
01-02-2007, 12:31 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
I second Hydrojunkie On the proboat hull!! For the 300 or 400 for a bare proboat hull if your looking for gas hydros there are plenty of bare hulls in the same price range that will eat a modified proboat for lunch.........Plus by the time you bought all the stuff for it you might as well have bought a new one..might even be cheaper!
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
I third it too!! hydrojunkie!!! Newtons pants arent that hard!Go with the flow!! Build one! We can help you out if you dont under stand something!We got the hydro goow roow here hydrojunkie!!!He know his stuff!!!
He know his stuff!!!
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
ORIGINAL: mr hydro 1
Dumas boats, still carries some 8th scale model hydro kits,at (www.dumasestore.com),,,If you have never built a hydro before ,I would go this route, Not Roger Newton prints for a first time build, they can be a little tricky (but they come out really nice if you have some hydroplain build knowledge under your belt).Dumas carries smaller hydros in a sport 40 & sport 20 type hull, and there is Brian Blazer of (www.blazermarine.com)he carries some sport series hulls,
Dumas boats, still carries some 8th scale model hydro kits,at (www.dumasestore.com),,,If you have never built a hydro before ,I would go this route, Not Roger Newton prints for a first time build, they can be a little tricky (but they come out really nice if you have some hydroplain build knowledge under your belt).Dumas carries smaller hydros in a sport 40 & sport 20 type hull, and there is Brian Blazer of (www.blazermarine.com)he carries some sport series hulls,
For your first build about how long to get rr done?
01-02-2007, 01:46 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
just found extra "newton prints" of 91 Winston Eagle all 3 sheets you can have them for"" free""" just pay for shipping. e -mail me at [email protected] to set up arrangment. so you can get a good look of what it would be like to build one. and heres more pics of my own templet prints and fiberglass cowl to build a sport 20 (45-50+mph)hydroplain.(not done with the build CD , few more weeks.)then I will offer it here on RCU sell & buy forum.
thank you Scott
P.S. if you do get them, but decide not to go this route,please offer them to some one else here for "free"(common certisy) some one else maybe in the same situation.
thank you Scott
P.S. if you do get them, but decide not to go this route,please offer them to some one else here for "free"(common certisy) some one else maybe in the same situation.
01-02-2007, 01:51 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
one week to build and skin, 2 days to do the plumming(radio caprtment,drive shaft,etc.) 2day to prep for paint,1 day to paint(tape off ,differnt color, letters.).
01-02-2007, 02:05 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
ORIGINAL: mr hydro 1
one week to build and skin, 2 days to do the plumming(radio caprtment,drive shaft,etc.) 2day to prep for paint,1 day to paint(tape off ,differnt color, letters.).
one week to build and skin, 2 days to do the plumming(radio caprtment,drive shaft,etc.) 2day to prep for paint,1 day to paint(tape off ,differnt color, letters.).
What is the max engine size you could stuff in the hull?
01-02-2007, 02:26 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
The one boat plan at dumasestore.com that looks like yours calls for a .67 engine, that is big don't you think?
01-02-2007, 02:33 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
My boat is a sport 20, not a scale hydro,its only 30 in long(.21)motor, a scale boat is a round 40 to 44 in long(.67) motor. what are you more interested in, and is this your 1st boat,
01-02-2007, 03:00 AM
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
miss circus and yes this would be my first build. I have a miss llumar 1/12 and that is a toy to the miss circus.I think I'm ready to move on to a good boat. I was going to buy the miss vegas but I would only wish I took a shot at the self build boats. I like the look of the 1/8 scale.
01-02-2007, 04:24 AM
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I don't know about spending $360 for that Circus Circus kit for a first build. Especially having to make lots of modifications and having to replace all the framing. Under the "Discounted Kits" area, Dumas also has the following, which might be better choises:
Kit 1321 1982/83 Atlas Van Lines 1/8 $110
Kit 1322 1985-87 Miller American 1/8 $160
Kit 1329 Eagle Sport 40 hydroplane $85
Kit 1312 1976 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $66
Kit 1314 1977 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $63
As I said above, the internal framing needs to be replaced with aircraft grade plywood and lightening holes need to be cut out to lighten the boats up. Also, on the two Sport 40 Atlas boats, the hulls need to be widened across the tunnel by around one inch to make them more stable in the corners. There are some other changes that need to be made as well in all the Dumas boats. Above all, if you choose to go this route, DON'T USE DUMAS HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me give you an idea of what you're looking at. Here are some pictures of a Sport 40 Pay' N Pak started from Newton plans that were scaled down to 36" in length
Kit 1321 1982/83 Atlas Van Lines 1/8 $110
Kit 1322 1985-87 Miller American 1/8 $160
Kit 1329 Eagle Sport 40 hydroplane $85
Kit 1312 1976 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $66
Kit 1314 1977 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $63
As I said above, the internal framing needs to be replaced with aircraft grade plywood and lightening holes need to be cut out to lighten the boats up. Also, on the two Sport 40 Atlas boats, the hulls need to be widened across the tunnel by around one inch to make them more stable in the corners. There are some other changes that need to be made as well in all the Dumas boats. Above all, if you choose to go this route, DON'T USE DUMAS HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me give you an idea of what you're looking at. Here are some pictures of a Sport 40 Pay' N Pak started from Newton plans that were scaled down to 36" in length
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RE: Looking for a boat to build.
ORIGINAL: Hydro Junkie
I don't know about spending $360 for that Circus Circus kit for a first build. Especially having to make lots of modifications and having to replace all the framing. Under the "Discounted Kits" area, Dumas also has the following, which might be better choises:
Kit 1321 1982/83 Atlas Van Lines 1/8 $110
Kit 1322 1985-87 Miller American 1/8 $160
Kit 1329 Eagle Sport 40 hydroplane $85
Kit 1312 1976 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $66
Kit 1314 1977 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $63
As I said above, the internal framing needs to be replaced with aircraft grade plywood and lightening holes need to be cut out to lighten the boats up. Also, on the two Sport 40 Atlas boats, the hulls need to be widened across the tunnel by around one inch to make them more stable in the corners. There are some other changes that need to be made as well in all the Dumas boats. Above all, if you choose to go this route, DON'T USE DUMAS HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me give you an idea of what you're looking at. Here are some pictures of a Sport 40 Pay' N Pak started from Newton plans that were scaled down to 36" in length
I don't know about spending $360 for that Circus Circus kit for a first build. Especially having to make lots of modifications and having to replace all the framing. Under the "Discounted Kits" area, Dumas also has the following, which might be better choises:
Kit 1321 1982/83 Atlas Van Lines 1/8 $110
Kit 1322 1985-87 Miller American 1/8 $160
Kit 1329 Eagle Sport 40 hydroplane $85
Kit 1312 1976 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $66
Kit 1314 1977 Atlas Van Lines Sport 40 $63
As I said above, the internal framing needs to be replaced with aircraft grade plywood and lightening holes need to be cut out to lighten the boats up. Also, on the two Sport 40 Atlas boats, the hulls need to be widened across the tunnel by around one inch to make them more stable in the corners. There are some other changes that need to be made as well in all the Dumas boats. Above all, if you choose to go this route, DON'T USE DUMAS HARDWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me give you an idea of what you're looking at. Here are some pictures of a Sport 40 Pay' N Pak started from Newton plans that were scaled down to 36" in length
01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
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I was on line trying to find a hydro kit, I would like to build a fast boat. I was thinking about buying a pro boat hull 1/8 size and go from there, $400 just for the hull. I saw the video on the one post with all the boats racing, were do you get plans or kits? What is best for building wood, plastic, fiberglass any tips would be great.
I was on line trying to find a hydro kit, I would like to build a fast boat. I was thinking about buying a pro boat hull 1/8 size and go from there, $400 just for the hull. I saw the video on the one post with all the boats racing, were do you get plans or kits? What is best for building wood, plastic, fiberglass any tips would be great.
01-02-2007, 08:31 PM
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Heres mine with a .18 in it . Good boat for a first build like John said fast too.
Heres a link to my build. Build starts on page 3 post 62 very easy build
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4765564/tm.htm
Heres a link to my build. Build starts on page 3 post 62 very easy build
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4765564/tm.htm
01-03-2007, 01:16 AM
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I know what you'r saying, but I have very good mechanical skills. I'm a auto tech by trade and also do autobody work. I know it won't be easy for my first time. If I'm going to spend a lot of money I'm not going to rush it, I will take my time, I'm in no rush this is fun for me. I want to upgrade my proboat with a better engine, but I want that ready for May. If it takes six months for the build so be it, I won't care.
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MR. hydro 1[&o] Pleeeeeeease!!!!! tell me how I can get a hold of the plans for that awesome Castrol sport 20. As my 3yr old son would say, I want I want I want.
01-03-2007, 10:12 PM
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what about a whiplash from Blazer. I am going to get the sport 20 to build and use the New Nova Rossi Long Stroke .21. they look like a quality kit.
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