AMPS hulls & outboards pics & tips {Agnew Model Propulsion Systems}
05-27-2009, 09:57 AM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
this is the outboard you need for that progect .. AMPS JOHNSON 150GT With a K&B 3.5 ENGINE
05-27-2009, 10:53 AM
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joe i hate to do this to you . but this is right now ..no waves calme .. i love my job ..lol going to run a gas basher at the beach today
05-28-2009, 09:21 AM
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Hi guys
Sorry to have dissapeared off the scene for a few weeks.
Several months ago I was asked by a couple of you guys if I would consider bringing back some of the AMPS products.
It was an attractive idea but I have been tied with a couple of businesses up so could not give it much time. During the last couple of weeks however Ihave been approached by a friend who has a very sophisticated CNC machine shop and is looking for new products.
The outcome is that we have been looking at a number of the products and think that they could be produced without breaking the bank - That is a relative term of course as making anything in small quantities is always going to be more costly than volume. We will also need to work out how best to get them to market and support them.
The question is "which products" and what scale?
It appears to me that there is a limited need for spares for the old 1/8 scale outdrives and outboards. These include gears, and lower units - is that correct? Are there any other parts that everyone needs.
Ihave also watched the thread on cowlings - the problem with that was there there were so many variants. We could however make them for GRP injection if it was not too many different types. - Any comments.
As regards new units it appears that the 1/4 scale size is the size to start. We ciould do both outdrives and outboards with and without power trim. Ialso have the original designs for the KAAMA - Arneson drive.
What Ineed for the outboard is to decide on the engine. For reliability Iwould not choose something that is too highly tuned but it does need a reasonable power output.
It needs to be water cooled (although we can do that) and ideally it should and dumpy be as short as possible so that we can keep the CoG down and maintain the cowls scale appearance. It also makes it easier to include a tuned exhaust.
Any feed back would be of interest and helpful.
Regards to you all
Bob
Sorry to have dissapeared off the scene for a few weeks.
Several months ago I was asked by a couple of you guys if I would consider bringing back some of the AMPS products.
It was an attractive idea but I have been tied with a couple of businesses up so could not give it much time. During the last couple of weeks however Ihave been approached by a friend who has a very sophisticated CNC machine shop and is looking for new products.
The outcome is that we have been looking at a number of the products and think that they could be produced without breaking the bank - That is a relative term of course as making anything in small quantities is always going to be more costly than volume. We will also need to work out how best to get them to market and support them.
The question is "which products" and what scale?
It appears to me that there is a limited need for spares for the old 1/8 scale outdrives and outboards. These include gears, and lower units - is that correct? Are there any other parts that everyone needs.
Ihave also watched the thread on cowlings - the problem with that was there there were so many variants. We could however make them for GRP injection if it was not too many different types. - Any comments.
As regards new units it appears that the 1/4 scale size is the size to start. We ciould do both outdrives and outboards with and without power trim. Ialso have the original designs for the KAAMA - Arneson drive.
What Ineed for the outboard is to decide on the engine. For reliability Iwould not choose something that is too highly tuned but it does need a reasonable power output.
It needs to be water cooled (although we can do that) and ideally it should and dumpy be as short as possible so that we can keep the CoG down and maintain the cowls scale appearance. It also makes it easier to include a tuned exhaust.
Any feed back would be of interest and helpful.
Regards to you all
Bob
05-28-2009, 01:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: BobAgnew
Hi guys
Sorry to have dissapeared off the scene for a few weeks.
Several months ago I was asked by a couple of you guys if I would consider bringing back some of the AMPS products.
It was an attractive idea but I have been tied with a couple of businesses up so could not give it much time. During the last couple of weeks however Ihave been approached by a friend who has a very sophisticated CNC machine shop and is looking for new products.
The outcome is that we have been looking at a number of the products and think that they could be produced without breaking the bank - That is a relative term of course as making anything in small quantities is always going to be more costly than volume. We will also need to work out how best to get them to market and support them.
The question is "which products" and what scale?
It appears to me that there is a limited need for spares for the old 1/8 scale outdrives and outboards. These include gears, and lower units - is that correct? Are there any other parts that everyone needs.
Ihave also watched the thread on cowlings - the problem with that was there there were so many variants. We could however make them for GRP injection if it was not too many different types. - Any comments.
As regards new units it appears that the 1/4 scale size is the size to start. We ciould do both outdrives and outboards with and without power trim. Ialso have the original designs for the KAAMA - Arneson drive.
What Ineed for the outboard is to decide on the engine. For reliability Iwould not choose something that is too highly tuned but it does need a reasonable power output.
It needs to be water cooled (although we can do that) and ideally it should and dumpy be as short as possible so that we can keep the CoG down and maintain the cowls scale appearance. It also makes it easier to include a tuned exhaust.
Any feed back would be of interest and helpful.
Regards to you all
Bob
Hi guys
Sorry to have dissapeared off the scene for a few weeks.
Several months ago I was asked by a couple of you guys if I would consider bringing back some of the AMPS products.
It was an attractive idea but I have been tied with a couple of businesses up so could not give it much time. During the last couple of weeks however Ihave been approached by a friend who has a very sophisticated CNC machine shop and is looking for new products.
The outcome is that we have been looking at a number of the products and think that they could be produced without breaking the bank - That is a relative term of course as making anything in small quantities is always going to be more costly than volume. We will also need to work out how best to get them to market and support them.
The question is "which products" and what scale?
It appears to me that there is a limited need for spares for the old 1/8 scale outdrives and outboards. These include gears, and lower units - is that correct? Are there any other parts that everyone needs.
Ihave also watched the thread on cowlings - the problem with that was there there were so many variants. We could however make them for GRP injection if it was not too many different types. - Any comments.
As regards new units it appears that the 1/4 scale size is the size to start. We ciould do both outdrives and outboards with and without power trim. Ialso have the original designs for the KAAMA - Arneson drive.
What Ineed for the outboard is to decide on the engine. For reliability Iwould not choose something that is too highly tuned but it does need a reasonable power output.
It needs to be water cooled (although we can do that) and ideally it should and dumpy be as short as possible so that we can keep the CoG down and maintain the cowls scale appearance. It also makes it easier to include a tuned exhaust.
Any feed back would be of interest and helpful.
Regards to you all
Bob
they are cheap and you can get parts for them all day long..or make a cheap way to interchange the pto to fit different engines , that would be the best way to go . most guys have the old OS maxmotors and the cant get parts for them so agen a retrofit PTO for a new powerhead would be wise :}
the grears are the bigest problem we all have . that should be the first thing that need to be reprodust . now all of us need to figer out if you have the speed master gears or the stock ones . and a new way to line them up right , both joe and i have had good & bad time with this 
.. thanks ken ps i love the anreson drives i need a set for my amps wellcraft hull
05-29-2009, 09:11 PM
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Gears gears and more gears!!! We need them all standard and speed master if were every going to get people running them again we'll need spare parts for all of them. I do realize that it cost money and we(you) need to put it where you will make some return on your investment. A simple rebuild kit for the lower units would be great (gears,shafts,bearings) I have no local hobby store so I have to order everything and I'm sure I am not the only one.Pto's for the K&B would be good but the new cases are different than the old ones so we would need two different ones.With the price of everything these days parts might not sell to quickly.I would like a 3.5 Amps on a 25 inch Tunnel cheap to run andeasyfor people to get into the hobby .just my two cents
06-02-2009, 06:49 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: joe rocket
just got this amps well craft cal cat on flebay today
no amps outboard 
still i love this hull . i think i will make this one with a amps I/O drive / the yellow k&b is the same cowling you have ,, it looks to have a plate to hold the cowling on .
06-09-2009, 03:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: Nitro boater
That boat is a sea bold hull my friend
That boat is a sea bold hull my friend
06-10-2009, 07:58 PM
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
06-11-2009, 03:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
here is the latest work on the 1/5 hydro. i got the flooring on the flying section of the boat. bill payne
ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
ok boys i cant hold this back ... coming soon a gas amps outboard ..
. i will keep you all posted 
06-11-2009, 03:30 PM
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i would trade my old blue AMPS BAJA for one of those engines bill payne
ORIGINAL: specialk1
it is coming out great !!!!!! ok boys i cant hold this back ... coming soon a gas amps outboard ... i will keep you all posted
ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
here is the latest work on the 1/5 hydro. i got the flooring on the flying section of the boat. bill payne
ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
hi guys finaly came back home from atlanta. jumped on my band saw and started building the 1/5 kneel down hydro . the 1/4 scale will come next. . ill send pics as it progresses. bill payne here is the saw dust pile so far on the 1/5 scale
ok boys i cant hold this back ... coming soon a gas amps outboard ... i will keep you all posted
06-11-2009, 06:06 PM
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That looks goodto bad I don't have anything that it will fit except maybe my old Sea King runabout that I've had for 35 years. How may of them do you think it will take to goes as fast as the old 20 horse.LOL LOOKSGOODKEN.
We need GEARS!!!!! BOBA
We need GEARS!!!!! BOBA
06-18-2009, 05:52 PM
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here is the latest edition of my little 1/5 hydro . i got the upper deck glued on today. next i put the decking on the sponsons. i cant wait to get started on the 1/4 scale version. but i cant find the foam bats i guess here in florida they dont know mutch about insulation. bill payne
06-18-2009, 07:25 PM
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
here is the latest edition of my little 1/5 hydro . i got the upper deck glued on today. next i put the decking on the sponsons. i cant wait to get started on the 1/4 scale version. but i cant find the foam bats i guess here in florida they dont know mutch about insulation. bill payne
here is the latest edition of my little 1/5 hydro . i got the upper deck glued on today. next i put the decking on the sponsons. i cant wait to get started on the 1/4 scale version. but i cant find the foam bats i guess here in florida they dont know mutch about insulation. bill payne
06-23-2009, 11:34 AM
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another international hobbies AMPS/ ZRgas F1 ...this one belongs to a RCU member .. just to let you all know i will be taking pre orders for the AMPS/ ZR gas outboard .. nowthey will be exspermintalmodel's for now
just a reminder PMBob Anew for orders on the gears you all need ..... he needs to know .. thanks all
just to let you all know i will be taking pre orders for the AMPS/ ZR gas outboard .. nowthey will be exspermintalmodel's for now just a reminder PMBob Anew for orders on the gears you all need ..... he needs to know .. thanks all
06-24-2009, 04:40 PM
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hey guys remember i have these little motors for sale or trade. YAMAHA made in japan new in box electric toy motor 4" tall $30 shipped to lower usa. bill payne will trade for old outboards working or not.
06-24-2009, 04:45 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
hey guys remember i have these little motors for sale or trade. YAMAHA made in japan new in box electric toy motor 4" tall $30 delivered to lower usa. or trade for old motors working or not. bill payne
06-25-2009, 07:43 PM
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i dont think i ever shared this boat with you guys. the raceing no is 381 . that is the date i aquired the boat . mar 1981. i won the boat by subscribeing to powerboat magazine. they promised to start a special section about r/c boats in with their real boat coverage. we had so little condinsed info in those days i jumped at it. they never really did more than a couple articles. oh well . because of my pathetic boat driveing and the beauty of the boat and its value it became a shelf queen to look at and to polish. here 28 years later its still perfect. how about that. i have the article that advertised the program and the cover page from the mag. wild bill payne. 28 years later its mild bill payne
06-25-2009, 08:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
i dont think i ever shared this boat with you guys. the raceing no is 381 . that is the date i aquired the boat . mar 1981. i won the boat by subscribeing to powerboat magazine. they promised to start a special section about r/c boats in with their real boat coverage. we had so little condinsed info in those days i jumped at it. they never really did more than a couple articles. oh well . because of my pathetic boat driveing and the beauty of the boat and its value it became a shelf queen to look at and to polish. here 28 years later its still perfect. how about that. i have the article that advertised the program and the cover page from the mag. wild bill payne. 28 years later its mild bill payne
i dont think i ever shared this boat with you guys. the raceing no is 381 . that is the date i aquired the boat . mar 1981. i won the boat by subscribeing to powerboat magazine. they promised to start a special section about r/c boats in with their real boat coverage. we had so little condinsed info in those days i jumped at it. they never really did more than a couple articles. oh well . because of my pathetic boat driveing and the beauty of the boat and its value it became a shelf queen to look at and to polish. here 28 years later its still perfect. how about that. i have the article that advertised the program and the cover page from the mag. wild bill payne. 28 years later its mild bill payne
Would love to see the article too.
B
06-25-2009, 08:47 PM
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From one Wild Bill to another, that's a very cool boat!
Would love to see the article too.
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill
i dont think i ever shared this boat with you guys. the raceing no is 381 . that is the date i aquired the boat . mar 1981. i won the boat by subscribeing to powerboat magazine. they promised to start a special section about r/c boats in with their real boat coverage. we had so little condinsed info in those days i jumped at it. they never really did more than a couple articles. oh well . because of my pathetic boat driveing and the beauty of the boat and its value it became a shelf queen to look at and to polish. here 28 years later its still perfect. how about that. i have the article that advertised the program and the cover page from the mag. wild bill payne. 28 years later its mild bill payne
i dont think i ever shared this boat with you guys. the raceing no is 381 . that is the date i aquired the boat . mar 1981. i won the boat by subscribeing to powerboat magazine. they promised to start a special section about r/c boats in with their real boat coverage. we had so little condinsed info in those days i jumped at it. they never really did more than a couple articles. oh well . because of my pathetic boat driveing and the beauty of the boat and its value it became a shelf queen to look at and to polish. here 28 years later its still perfect. how about that. i have the article that advertised the program and the cover page from the mag. wild bill payne. 28 years later its mild bill payne
Would love to see the article too.
B
06-26-2009, 06:50 AM
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Finally bought a printer with a scanner, so I can do my contribution of sharing a bit of history as well.
This is a scan of a brochure I recieved from Millar Agnew on 21 January 1997.
Rgds, Eddy
This is a scan of a brochure I recieved from Millar Agnew on 21 January 1997.
Rgds, Eddy
06-26-2009, 09:05 AM
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Very cool Bill I really like that boat. Nice piece of history Eddy.I've never seen anything that new.
Hey Bob A. how are are gears going?
Hey Bob A. how are are gears going?