AMPS hulls & outboards pics & tips {Agnew Model Propulsion Systems}
03-30-2008, 08:51 PM
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Here are some my boats. That was the white Budlight tunnels first and only run. I had decals made for it. I see someone else has posted some pictures of my toys. I guess I'm famous. ha ha ha
Here are some my boats. That was the white Budlight tunnels first and only run. I had decals made for it. I see someone else has posted some pictures of my toys. I guess I'm famous. ha ha ha
well if you have an {amps} that makes you famous..[X(]
great shots ..I like the kool paint...
03-30-2008, 11:29 PM
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thanks ...we will try I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
thanks ...we will try
I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
03-31-2008, 09:45 AM
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I like the e-start. I sure could use it on my race boats. The earlier pics of the Budlight and the outboards in the pink foam are mine.My wife thinks I'm crazy for collecting them but right now there going up faster than my 401k. I do have a copy of the amps promotional video they used to sell them.I would like an original one so if anybody has one let me know.
03-31-2008, 03:31 PM
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I like the e-start. I sure could use it on my race boats. The earlier pics of the Budlight and the outboards in the pink foam are mine.My wife thinks I'm crazy for collecting them but right now there going up faster than my 401k. I do have a copy of the amps promotional video they used to sell them.I would like an original one so if anybody has one let me know.
I like the e-start. I sure could use it on my race boats. The earlier pics of the Budlight and the outboards in the pink foam are mine.My wife thinks I'm crazy for collecting them but right now there going up faster than my 401k. I do have a copy of the amps promotional video they used to sell them.I would like an original one so if anybody has one let me know.
i have never seen it
03-31-2008, 03:47 PM
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The twin drive scarab project is mine. I've been working (I use that term VERY loosely) on finishing it. It's getting closer to done....working on driveline and electronics now. The brass rod between the outdrives in a couple pics was a temporary spacer. Each outdrive has a dedicated servo with two links going to each side of the outdrive.
ORIGINAL: specialk1
thanks ...we will try I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
thanks ...we will try
I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
03-31-2008, 03:48 PM
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If I knew how I would but since I can just barely get pics on the web a movie will never happen.
If I knew how I would but since I can just barely get pics on the web a movie will never happen.
03-31-2008, 04:27 PM
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WOW THATS THE SECOND ENGINE YOUVE SHOWN THIS WEEK WITH AN AMPS/ ZENOAH COMBO. THE FUTURE IS LOOKING FOR OUTBOARDS, BUT GIVEN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE MABY WE NEAD TO BE DEVELOPEING AN ENGINE THAT RUNS ON JACK DANIELS. WHERE CAN WE GET SOME TECKS ON THESE ENGINES?
WOW THATS THE SECOND ENGINE YOUVE SHOWN THIS WEEK WITH AN AMPS/ ZENOAH COMBO. THE FUTURE IS LOOKING FOR OUTBOARDS, BUT GIVEN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE MABY WE NEAD TO BE DEVELOPEING AN ENGINE THAT RUNS ON JACK DANIELS. WHERE CAN WE GET SOME TECKS ON THESE ENGINES?
i thingk i some ifo on that gas outboard//i will find soon
03-31-2008, 04:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: 4square
I must not be uploading these pics correctly??javascript:void(AddText('[\&o]',''))
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Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
your going to need it
03-31-2008, 07:55 PM
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Thanks, I picked that one up 3 weeks ago off eBay, I just fixed that broken-off set screw last night, and believe it or not, the SS center shaft is actually an old chrome plated steel shock shaft. Ha!
I'll just replace it with an 1/8" rod after fitting everything to the hull. Just goes to show-- you really gotta LOOK closely at pictures.
Thanks for all your help, it's really great having a forum like this to provide information on an almost lost product.
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i saw one of these on eBay this weekyour going to need it
ORIGINAL: 4square
I must not be uploading these pics correctly??javascript:void(AddText('[\&o]',''))
ORIGINAL: 4square
Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
your going to need it
I'll just replace it with an 1/8" rod after fitting everything to the hull. Just goes to show-- you really gotta LOOK closely at pictures.
Thanks for all your help, it's really great having a forum like this to provide information on an almost lost product.
03-31-2008, 08:40 PM
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RE: AMPS hulls & outboards pics & tips international hobbies
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is that two 4 stroke ??? got to love a thumper!!![&:]
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The twin drive scarab project is mine. I've been working (I use that term VERY loosely) on finishing it. It's getting closer to done....working on driveline and electronics now. The brass rod between the outdrives in a couple pics was a temporary spacer. Each outdrive has a dedicated servo with two links going to each side of the outdrive.
ORIGINAL: specialk1
thanks ...we will try I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
thanks ...we will try
I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
03-31-2008, 09:28 PM
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Yeah all I've gotten is flak for trying to "think outside the box" I figured if I was going for a scale twin drive setup....the least I could try for was a scalish sound also. Since there aren't any readily available water cooled 4-strokers (the size I wanted) I decided to try twin YS 63S's I'll try and watercool them myself (that's the point I'm kinda at now) Also trying to figure out a good starting point for a prop (size and pitch) I can obviously swing a larger dia. prop with the 4-stroke to make up for the lower rpms.....but at the same time don't want to over torque the AMPS drives. Any suggestions?? I'll ask in this AMPS thread.....since I don't get many good responses or interest anywhere else I ask (not on RCU) Thanks
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is that two 4 stroke ??? got to love a thumper!!![&:]
ORIGINAL: paint-boy
The twin drive scarab project is mine. I've been working (I use that term VERY loosely) on finishing it. It's getting closer to done....working on driveline and electronics now. The brass rod between the outdrives in a couple pics was a temporary spacer. Each outdrive has a dedicated servo with two links going to each side of the outdrive.
ORIGINAL: specialk1
thanks ...we will try I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
thanks ...we will try
I like the twin outdrive .that boat belongs to a rcu member
don't let them give you flak for trying .the only one i have seen was a YS 63S with a home made shell for water cooling the guy had a electric water pump to give it better water flow at lower speed .. don't go to large on the prop ..are your outdrives counter rotating???? i would go for a nice 5 blade great scale look
03-31-2008, 10:30 PM
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I've tossed around the idea of building a "water chamber" around the head or possibly tightly wrapping thin walled aluminum tubing from the case all the way to the top of the head. Had thoughts about a electric pump to aid in cooling also...but thought I would do some "bench tests" first to see if they were needed.
As far as the counter rotating drive unit??? To be honest I had no idea there was a difference? Or are you pulling my leg? I just assumed if you needed to counter rotate one you could just input the opposite rotation? It certainly would be the "best case scenerio" if I could have it counter rotate. Obviously I can't change the direction of the engine...an internal swap of gears in the drive would be needed (and I'm sure parts like that are as easy to come by as a nice ex-girlfriend!)
As far as the counter rotating drive unit??? To be honest I had no idea there was a difference? Or are you pulling my leg? I just assumed if you needed to counter rotate one you could just input the opposite rotation? It certainly would be the "best case scenerio" if I could have it counter rotate. Obviously I can't change the direction of the engine...an internal swap of gears in the drive would be needed (and I'm sure parts like that are as easy to come by as a nice ex-girlfriend!)
04-01-2008, 02:27 PM
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All you have to do is change the gear from one side to the other on the propshaft. OS outboards turn a different rotation than most k&b's.I did have a counter rotating K&B but sold it .
04-01-2008, 02:29 PM
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ORIGINAL: 4square
I must not be uploading these pics correctly??javascript:void(AddText('[\&o]',''))
ORIGINAL: 4square
Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
Ok, here's the pictures, It just looks like the motor needs to be attached with a spacer or the bottom of the boat needs to be trimmed, I purchased this boat from someone that mounted a K&B to it with an adjustable mounting plate. There is a hole in the transom where at one time a previous owner mounted or tried to mount the adj. trim bracket. Any suggestions guys?
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold transome.jpg
/Users/williamladue/Desktop/Seebold full.jpg
04-01-2008, 02:39 PM
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All you have to do is change the gear from one side to the other on the propshaft. OS outboards turn a different rotation than most k&b's.I did have a counter rotating K&B but sold it .
All you have to do is change the gear from one side to the other on the propshaft. OS outboards turn a different rotation than most k&b's.I did have a counter rotating K&B but sold it .
some amps lower unit came that way
04-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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i really like that rrailer. i could put my baja /amps on it and pull i t with my verry old toyota bruiser by tamaia. i have had it under the bead in my spare bed rooms since my son got old enough to move out. its going to nead a fiew things.
04-01-2008, 05:36 PM
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i really like that rrailer. i could put my baja /amps on it and pull i t with my verry old toyota bruiser by tamaia. i have had it under the bead in my spare bed rooms since my son got old enough to move out. its going to nead a fiew things.
i really like that rrailer. i could put my baja /amps on it and pull i t with my verry old toyota bruiser by tamaia. i have had it under the bead in my spare bed rooms since my son got old enough to move out. its going to nead a fiew things.
04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
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thanks i enjoyed the video of your bruiser. its been over 20 years since my 3 rigs have seen day light.. when i started looking for parts i sudenly realized that i could buy the parts to finish my real street rod for less than the parts for one of these 2 . thanks for the link. bill payne
04-01-2008, 07:54 PM
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Here is a bit of information on four strokes in boats in case anyone doesn't know. O.S produced four strokes several years back. The first ones were 40 size and had exposed rocker arms, later on they made them in 40 size and .61 size as shown.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
04-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: rcollector
Here is a bit of information on four strokes in boats in case anyone doesn't know. O.S produced four strokes several years back. The first ones were 40 size and had exposed rocker arms, later on they made them in 40 size and .61 size as shown.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
Here is a bit of information on four strokes in boats in case anyone doesn't know. O.S produced four strokes several years back. The first ones were 40 size and had exposed rocker arms, later on they made them in 40 size and .61 size as shown.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
04-01-2008, 08:36 PM
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Well, I don't know everything about this stuff but I have been collecting it for a while. I also got a lot of my AMPS stuff from people who used to run them and race them back when you could still get parts. I would ask a lot of questions about these motors and drives when ever I bought another motor from someone . If I know something about a subject here I will speak up.
joe rocket , I would sure like to see that video .
joe rocket , I would sure like to see that video .
04-01-2008, 08:39 PM
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ORIGINAL: rcollector
Here is a bit of information on four strokes in boats in case anyone doesn't know. O.S produced four strokes several years back. The first ones were 40 size and had exposed rocker arms, later on they made them in 40 size and .61 size as shown.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
Here is a bit of information on four strokes in boats in case anyone doesn't know. O.S produced four strokes several years back. The first ones were 40 size and had exposed rocker arms, later on they made them in 40 size and .61 size as shown.
Here is a picture of a package I have in my collection all new and never run (the outdrives have been mounted but never used). These are O.S. FS-61M's and yes the outdrtives are counter rotating units. I have seen this very combo mounted in International Hobbies Formula 402 Deep vees with the AMPS outdrives and I consider it the ultimate package for that boat.
Another little side note: You could also buy reverse ground cams for the os four strokes so you could counter rotate them in case the drives you were using did not.
Also I posted a picture of a modern O.S. Four stroke FS-.52 Surpass I water cooled myself.
04-01-2008, 08:41 PM
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Well, I don't know everything about this stuff but I have been collecting it for a while. I also got a lot of my AMPS stuff from people who used to run them and race them back when you could still get parts. I would ask a lot of questions about these motors and drives when ever I bought another motor from someone . If I know something about a subject here I will speak up.
joe rocket , I would sure like to see that video .
Well, I don't know everything about this stuff but I have been collecting it for a while. I also got a lot of my AMPS stuff from people who used to run them and race them back when you could still get parts. I would ask a lot of questions about these motors and drives when ever I bought another motor from someone . If I know something about a subject here I will speak up.
joe rocket , I would sure like to see that video .
