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Old 02-08-2013, 03:09 PM
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Kroggs, I think 3/16 would be a real good size. 1/4 inch is most likely way to big
Old 02-13-2013, 09:30 AM
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Hey everyone,

@ kroggs:

very nice boat had you made a counterpart form to produce the hull?
I had an related idea for a while but I know how much work thats costs and dont have the time for something like that...

@ mike

At first thanks for the dimensions, but I am building a 21 rigger jet I think 1 inch beam is the 12 jae foam core...
Please can you tell me the sponson beam of the jae 21?
You would realy help me.

Had anyone of you ever tried a .12 or .21 plane engine?
A friend of me does tethered flight and they have realy high performance engines and he told me that these engines are doing very well: http://technohobby.com.ua/online-shop/en/engines but I never heard that somebody tried these engines in a boat.
I may trie it some day but I think it would be clever to build a very light boat and maybe a gerd is needed for these engines to (they are realy high turning).
But first a have to become a better driver (theese engines have no air regulator)...

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:37 AM
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No I bought the boat but will try and do my own carbon design some day!

What kind or rpm do those engines pull?  These riggers need the 30,000 + rpm the engines create..
Old 02-16-2013, 12:58 PM
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Ah sorry I did not have seen that you had written it already...

I think the engines are turning much more just listen to the sound in this videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzBMn6Bgw3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0MN6NHChZI

In the second video its a 5ccm engine and it turns much more than 40000 I think.

I will tell you more when I try but first I have to finish my jae 21g for my nova and I need size of the sponsons...
Old 02-17-2013, 06:18 PM
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Took my rigger out yesterday..got the boat running fine out of the water so i went ahead and threw it in. The boat got about 30 feet from the shore and then died[:@] So I had to go swimming, gotta love running boats in winter without a retriever boat. Things got worse for me though, as I was getting ready to go swimmin the we noticed the boats sinking lower and lower..not good. The rear end ended up completely sinking and all that was sticking out was the pontoons. Found out that my hitec servo stripped out. So far 2 of those exact servos have gone bad on me. Back to the workbench it goes for some lightening up of the boat and new servo..
Old 02-18-2013, 11:07 PM
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Josh what servos?? Also sounds like you need to take some of the travel out of them or get rid of any binding so they wil not strip.  I was going with Hitec but might try some cheaper ones from hobby king as I have had the same problem with the Hitec so might aswell try some cheaper ones and see how they fair!!!
Old 02-18-2013, 11:17 PM
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Kroggs, I'm really not totally sure what went wrong but I will definitely use my metal gear corona servo from hobby king on this, it's way cheaper and that's what I'm using for my rudder, seems to be holding up good. I use those servos in everything other boats plans cars. Good stuff for the price.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:56 AM
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were using the Hitex 225 mg for the rudder and Hitex 82-85 for the carb. You want the lightest servo you can get. Battery I went to http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/
Old 02-19-2013, 09:28 AM
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Kroggs, I'm really not totally sure what went wrong but I will definitely use my metal gear corona servo from hobby king on this, it's way cheaper and that's what I'm using for my rudder, seems to be holding up good. I use those servos in everything other boats plans cars. Good stuff for the price.
Regards Josh
Have you set your end points or travel?
Old 02-19-2013, 04:27 PM
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Kroggs, i'm not really sure how to do all them things yet cause I got one of those dx3r's with the screen an everything. I needed to study my manual an learn all those tricks about it.
Advanced Builder, thanks for the advice i will look into those servos.
Another thing has any body else have problems with the rear end sinking??
Old 02-20-2013, 05:48 AM
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Keep it from sinking is a fine line of balance and checking for leaks that dose not always work.

First put it in your test cell ( Bath tub) make sure you have no leaks in your radio box
try to get your motor and battery pack as far forward as you can with out changing your C/G
tape your radio box lid with good tape. Put your R/X in a balloon, rub a little vasaline on your servo seams also pack some in your rudder linage seal.
as you get your boat more dependable and running up on plan this won't happen as much
above all STOP swimming after your boat. fishing pole and a tennis ball works great.
Old 02-20-2013, 07:10 AM
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Thanks for the advice Mike, I will start on the sealing process and checking to make sure everything's good, I only went swimming because all I had was a junk rid that wouldn't cast. So I didn't really have much of an option 
Thanks Josh
Old 02-20-2013, 07:43 AM
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Been there, just don't want to loose a boater
Old 02-21-2013, 01:28 AM
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PLEASE somebody I need the width of the sponsons to build my jae 21
Old 02-21-2013, 05:42 AM
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PLEASE somebody I need the width of the sponsons to build my jae 21
The foam core is 1inch for the .21 also for the .12 the difference in width is the sheeting
Old 02-22-2013, 08:21 AM
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Ah ok now I understand
Thank you Mike!

Are you using 3mm plywood for booth sheetings?
Old 04-20-2013, 03:42 PM
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Hey all not sure if I am aloud to post links on items I'm selling but, I'm parting with my .12 outrigger, need money for other toys. Here the link to my jae on ebay
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=251263876304&index=0&nav=SELLING&n id=18627214679
Old 04-20-2013, 06:57 PM
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Holy cow...sold already! Nice
Old 06-10-2013, 07:57 PM
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Still getting the first tanks through her,, soon enough I will be shortening the pipe and putting the 60% to her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx7KIXeKGbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ApBk60hy2k
Old 12-02-2013, 07:31 PM
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Wow, this thread kind of died off! I kind of got bored yesterday and dug out a 1st version of the JAE .12 and started tinkering with it again. It's going to need a few things to get it done but I'm going to try for reliable rather than pure speed. I pulled an OS .12 out of another hull and found a Z 12 strut that's going on in place of the Octura that was on it. When Zippkits gets in some more of the epoxy-glas cowls I'll put that on as it never had a cowl on. Heck, it never saw water! The paint looks like junk also so I'll freshen that up.
If all goes well, I'll race it in September as the Indy Hydro Masters race in Hobart, IN. What I've seen there is that you have to make it to the starting clock first before even worrying about finishing a heat.
Old 12-11-2013, 08:02 PM
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Hey Ron, you need to get that .12 going Hobart is about the only place I have around here to heat race my .12 they are a blast to race. You know just by this tread along almost ever body has one but the clubs around here don't want to make a class for them, oh well there loss. I think I am going to build me a new G4 it's a cross between the G2 and G3 should be a great heat racer. you need to get yours going so I can have a shot at running over your boat this next year, I have ran over ever body else
Old 12-11-2013, 08:15 PM
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She's pretty much together now Mike, I'll have to upload a shot or 2 as they're still in my cell phone yet. I've got a few things to try once I get it on the water, mostly in the way of pipes. The boat wasn't made to be a speed demon as at Hobart it seems that you really need to just start the race much less finish it. How many have we seen that can't hardly get off the launch much less a lap? Now it's mild with an O.S. .12 truck engine in it. I've run it in one of my.12 mono's and it does the job. Thee only mod is a Nova Rossi .21 carb that really woke it up.
Tune back in and I'll get the shots uploaded to the computer. Yeah, my table is a mess as I've been working on 2 boats at once.

BTW Mike, you, Joe or Stasia let me know when you've got some cowls made. Joe said last week that he's working your butt off!
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:24 PM
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That is one class that the old advise really holds true. Just get a start and finish the heat and you will place well
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I found a video on my computer that I don't think that I've uploaded to You Tube yet. If it isn't on there (probably not) I'll have to do it. I was hoping that Hobart would highlight this class and get more racers into it but this heat didn't help. This next year I'm hoping to have at least 3 boats racing there. I spent an afternoon up at Kevin Sheren's house and came home with a Jersey Skiff. I left some other things including a lighter wallet.
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Just my shade of green, looks great! If you were with Kevin your going home with some thing. Great guy

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