R.J. West

I have a Dumas sport 40 U-76 hull. Its 36" length x 15" I had lost the "Atlas van lines U-76" decals for it and I know Dumas still sells them, but you still have to paint the Atlas "A" and the stripes.
What I'm looking for is if anyone out there can point me in the right direction. What i would like is to be able to get some vinyl decals made, including the Atlas "A"'s and the stripes on the deck & cowl since I'm terrible at painting...
Pay n' pak would be a second choice.....

Hydro Junkie

You can try here https://wesleyscustom.com/RC_Boat_Decals.php
Tried to check out Pacific Graphics, their website is down

R.J. West

Hey thanks HJ,
I've forgotten about them. I gave them an email regarding either the '73 Pak or '76 Atlas.....

I have a couple Dumas sport 20 size Pay N paks kits and according to the instructions, they made the pak decals from using orange and black monocote layering one over the other and using the full sized graphics printed on the schematics, cut out the lettering and stripes using an xacto blade....Then peel off the backing and using soap & water to glide them over the hull, then wipe off excess water and clear coat over.....I suppose I could blow up the plans,(not literally guys) to 1/10 scale and give that a shot.
Do you guys know if anyone used this technique before?

Hydro Junkie

It was a common practice in the graphics industry for a while. With the new vinyl printers, it's easy to make up a set of decals in the correct colors and slide them into place.

advanced builder

RJ give Dumas a call they helped me out with a 43" Atlas 1-800-458-2828

R.J. West

I got in contact with Wesleys graphics, thay can do it if I send them a copy of Newtons plans on the graphics of the pay n pak...But they're expensive....same price as the 1/8 scale so I'm looking at 100+ bux...But they appear to be of high quaility.

Thanks for the number, I gave them a call and went ahead and ordered two sets of Pay n pak decals, cost was 15 bux including shipping...The girl on the phone said they measured 30 inches in length....Thats probably for the sport 20 pak which is 30 inches also.
I figured I can send them out to wesleys and have them scaled up a bit or kinkos or who ever can scale these up for me to 1/10 scale....

I dont want to spend 100 bux or more on my boats graphics, because if I do that then I'l get the shaft from my wife cause her birthday was several days ago, and I took her over to the Olive Garden for dinner.....which was considerably less than 100 bones...See where I'm going with this?

R.J. West

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what scale the Dumas Atlas U-76 is? Its 36 X 15 "

I'm guessing 1/10 scale...

Hydro Junkie

Nope, not 1/10th scale. Actually, it's length computes out to 1/9.5 while the width works out to 1/10.4, so it's either too long or too narrow to be in scale either way. To be exactly 1/10th scale , the boat would need to be 34.2" long and 15.6" wide. What's almost ironic is the Pro Boat so called 1/12th scale boats are only 27" long while they are based on full sized boats that are 12" longer than the Pak hull. This means the Pro Boat hulls should actually be 29.5" long or be listed as 1/13 scale boats

R.J. West

Thought I'd awaken my sleeping post once again, this time to share the latest pics of my U-76 Atlas.
I used Dupi-color primer/sealer after sealing the wood with a couple coats of thinned epoxy. wet sanded it with 400 grit paper, I let it sit for about a week before painting.
again I used Dupi-color acrylic laquer in "bright white". I shot it down with about 3 good coats, which I'l let sit for about another week, then I'l wet sand it with a xfine sponge. Which I'l shoot it down with another coat or two of white. Im still unsure if I should attept to paint the stripes on, or order some graphics from PGI graphics. Regardless, after Im finished i will shoot it down with a few good coats of a known fuel proof clear.

JMOR06

RJ,
You can cut your own out of monocote trim sky blue TOPQ4122 and I think Sapphire Blue TOPQ4226. Trace it out from the plans and a few new xacto blades. Not ideal but a very cheap alternative.

Jeff

I have the Decal sheet that came with the kit if needed.

jetpack

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Monokote...forgot this trick because I've been away from rc planes for awhile but it will help those reading that aren't familiar with Monokote as trim.

First, MonoKote sells peel-and-stick trim sheets that match all of their colors. About 4" x 36" and works good.

Second, if trying to iron MonoKote on top of MonoKote it is impossible to do because it forms a million and one air bubbles that cant be removed. The trick is to cut your trim and apply it using Windex and letting it sit a day. It will activate the iron-on adheasive well enough to stick to itself. And if your clear-coating over them there should be no further worries of it lifting.

This is proven to work on itself. As far as it sticking to a painted surface I don't think it would work as well because it's not as clean and smooth as the plastic film, however using a low iron with it over paint might let you do it without the air bubbles.

R.J. West

using the monokote trim is oldschool, which I am by the way, and I was thinking the exact same thing to be honest with you. Thanks guys for the sugestions.
I do have two spare decals sheets from Dumas for the U-76. I'm not a huge fan of waterslide decals, which the dumas ones are.
I decided that it might be best to order the color sheet from Roger Newtons site on the Atlas U-76, shrink them down a bit, and use that as my templates for the monokote trim sheets.
because having a sign shop print these up for me would cost me a few simolians...

The rest of this thread will be my completion of my Dumas U-76 sport 40

Hydro Junkie

Don't feel bad, I'm in the same boat(pun intended), trying to find decals. I need them in the same sizes for the Pak, the 78 Madison and the 77 Atlas. Can we say EXPENSIVE?

jetpack

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Try this guy.

[link=http://www.cfcgraphics.com/flyingcircus.html]Flying Circus[/link]

Average is about $125 for a 1/4 scale airplane. These would be a lot smaller than that.

Spending what some of these guys charge just for decals, I rather keep out of it and go with my own design with paint.

Cutting your own peel-and-stick templates is also an option. Shelf paper laid down on a clean sheet of glass works nice for that.

You can even cut more than one sheet at a time.

Custom Decals = $125 per job.
Shelf Paper = $1.25 per roll.

Hydro Junkie

That will work great for the several aircraft I'm building, but not any of my boats. I prefer a more scale look, hense needing decals for the Pak, Madison and Atlas. Monokote would be an option for the Pak and maybe the Atlas, if I can get the right colors, but not the Madison. The Madison has yellow and brown main graphics with black lettering on the nose cowl, something that needs to be printed

R.J. West

Hey Jetpack!

I contacted several companies that are well known here on the forums, and they can do the work and Im sure they'l look fine however i cannot justify spending a hundred bux or more on a sport hydro.

Thanks to jmor06 for his advice on the trim coat. Like I said that was one of the common old school ways of doing it, and I chose to do the same. Tower hobbies has the peel n stick trim in the colors that he suggested and they cost like 3 bux a sheet.

I have the templates from Dumas, however I will order the U-76 color sheet from Newtons marine as his is more complete. The dumas only shows the Atlas's "A" and stripe along the deck only, then the red "ATLAS" logo's & "U-76"
I'm doing the Pay N pak sport 20 & the Atlas U-76 sport 40 size hulls using this method. Give me some time to order the stuff and cut them out before I can post some pics.

Im pretty skillfull with the xacto knives, so cutting them out shouldnt be hard.

R.J. West

Here are my latest pics of my Dumas U-76 Atlas van lines sport 40. I just won a new in box OPS .45! And that is whats going to power my ride. Again the paint I use is Dupi-color acrylic laquer in "Gloss White" another white that i use is "Bright White" which is a more satin finish...I used both on this hull as I ran out of one and used the other...The final top coat is "Gloss White".
I ordered a schematic detail sheet of the Atlas U-76 from Newtons Marine and will shrink that down I believe 20% or 30% and talk to a few sign shops around town first...

jetpack

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Man, that's looking nice. Add some graphics and it'll really pop.

That OPS is going to lots of fun in that hull.

Great that you're sharing it with us!

Hydro Junkie

If I remember right, it works out to approximately 84%. Just did a quick computation and 84.3% is 36.03825 inches, so you would probably want to go to 85% .

R.J. West

Well I had to decide if I wanted to pay someone else some smackeroo's or save a few bucks and do it my self and show off my skill.
So I went ahead and ordered some monokote trim sheet from Tower in the colors as suggested by jomor06. The color choices were about as close as your gonna get. I'm still working on them but heres a pic of what I've done so far. The stripes are the trim and the rest are Dumas. I found on ebay some 1/10 scale "Pennzoil" and "Champion" decals that turned out ok. The Dumas decals really can test ones skill and patience, and thank god thatI had a couple spare sheets.
I used silicon adhesive to glue the Atlas "A's" full size template from the dumas plans onto 6X36 trim sheet and will get to that later as soon as i figure a few things out.

Lets keep this in mind that this is a sport 40 class version of the U-76 and not a exact scale dupicate that's required for the most part in 1/8 scale events. HoweverI do try to make my boats look like the real thing within reason.

Does anyone have an idea of whereI can get some exhaust stacks to stick out of the cowl? I used to make my own from brass tube soldiered onto a brass strip then screwed on from the inside, i'l do that as a last resort.

R.J. West

Alright boy's N' girl's, heres the latest scoop on my progress with my U-76 Atlas.

I cut by hand the stripes from monocoat trin sheets, 6x36". I'm going to take this time and mention that if you have a heart condition, or get stressed out easily, please do not do what I've done. As this was a very tedious job. Its not perfect, I dont want it to be perfect and I'm not even trying to make it look perfect.
I soaked the dumas "Atlas van lines" red logo in warm water for about a minute and let it sit on a paper towel for a second while i wetted the deck with water,I then, GINGERLY and SLOWLY slid the decal onto the deck and into position all the while holding my breath.
It's looking ok so far. Tomorrow I'm gonna tackle the other side. Did I say this was tedious? Its amazing how just adding a few stripes and lettering how much they stand out against the white hull! Enjoy the pics!

Hydro Junkie

Before you clear that cowl, you really should paint that cockpit black. The prototype had black padding in it, not to mention that black would make the cockpit stand out more than the white does

R.J. West

Yeah i know. I'm still working on the rest of the stripes. And I still have to paint my williams brothers pilot.

R.J. West

Well today I have the other side completed! Not too shabby for being all handcut, all i had to work with is some soapy dish water to slide them in place and an xacto knife and a metal ruler, not to mention that they are also 36" long.
Next I have to go make a scan of my newton plans and print up some templates for the large stripes that go down the center of the cowl and along the sides. The job I'm doing isnt perfect but i think it looks nice. It was cheap as the 6 trim sheets cost me not even 20 bux including shipping. It would've been kinda cool of Dumas to include the templates for the cowls center stripes and side stripes.
Enjoy the pics...

Rodvader

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