AMPS hulls & outboards pics & tips {Agnew Model Propulsion Systems}
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[X(] I started this thread for thous who are trying to restore their AMPS outboards & hulls and to try help with some tips... if anyone has some old catalogs post them up...and diagrams of the lower ends...maby some knows a shop that can repo some parts ..lets help each other out with these great looking scale out drives and hulls..I know some of us would like to run them instead of them becoming museum pieces like the
K&b sea fury so post up all pics you can ..ken:D KEEP AMPS GOING hehehehe[X(] |
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Very rare T4 with a Fox .40 as a power head. Doubt this motor has ever been fired up.
http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a1.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...res/amps16.jpg Rare AMPS tunnel with another rare motor with a Fox 60 Hawk as powerhead. http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a2.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ures/amps5.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a4.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ures/amps7.jpg IH Seebold Racing tunnel with a K&B 7.5 for powerhead. http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...res/amps11.jpg Out of all of these, hope to get the Seebold tunnel running at some point. The others are collector items and will kept as such. Nice thread! |
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ORIGINAL: ob nut Very rare T4 with a Fox .40 as a power head. Doubt this motor has ever been fired up. http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a1.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...res/amps16.jpg Rare AMPS tunnel with another rare motor with a Fox 60 Hawk as powerhead. http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a2.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ures/amps5.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ictures/a4.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...ures/amps7.jpg IH Seebold Racing tunnel with a K&B 7.5 for powerhead. http://home.earthlink.net/~ob_nut3/s...res/amps11.jpg Out of all of these, hope to get the Seebold tunnel running at some point. The others are collector items and will kept as such. Nice thread! |
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Only difference to what to the tilt is that the level is vertical instead of horizontal. But yea, thats is the unit on the AMPS tunnel also. You can see the unit in the pic with the driver / cowl laying on the boat.
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here is the amps powered baja . ups just delivered it . boy what a whopper and a verry heavy boat . the engine has internal probs and so does the drive foot. body is in pretty good shape for its age.
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i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne |
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Hey Guys,
That is super cool!!..... I didn't know they made anything like that. Do they still make them? How do they perform?? Do you have any video of yours running??? Thanks, Phil |
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Ducted fan engines have the carb on the rear of the case and are timed by a disc or drum just like all performance marine engines so I don't know how you would use one for an amps setup......
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The ducted fan engines are differant but I think he might find the piston , sleeve and rod he is looking for inside of one. I think the o.s powerheads were just regular rear exhaust marine engine cases with airplane engine front bearing housings and a special airplane type crankshaft with a longer crank pin to drive the pto.
Now, if anyone that reads this knows more exactly what parts fit these OS made amps powerhead please correct me and post the information . I am only guessing on this based on the few engines of mine I have had apart over the years. I am really not sure. I am only trying to help by suggesting where I would look if I were trying to find parts myself. |
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If I was going to try to run one of these amps outboards today I would use one with a K&B powerhead because they just have standard K&B outboard powerheads with a AMPS hex drive PTO.
The last one of mine I was running was a Bud Light Seebold tunnel that had a .67 K&B powerhead. Sure, the o.s. powerheads run smoother but when you break parts you have these problem of trying to figure out what the heck parts are in there and then finding them . If you run an amps be sure you don't break a gear in the lower unit, you will really have problems finding that. These are great old ouboard motors with a scale look that just can't be beat in appearance but they are a little bit heavy. Really , today, they are best just to keep on the shelf and look at. These motors will break gears quite easily if you strike something with the prop and there are no spares to be had, it is not real easy to replace them either. The only way it would be practical to run these again is if someone started making replacement gears . |
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ORIGINAL: rcollector If I was going to try to run one of these amps outboards today I would use one with a K&B powerhead because they just have standard K&B outboard powerheads with a AMPS hex drive PTO. The last one of mine I was running was a Bud Light Seebold tunnel that had a .67 K&B powerhead. Sure, the o.s. powerheads run smoother but when you break parts you have these problem of trying to figure out what the heck parts are in there and then finding them . If you run an amps be sure you don't break a gear in the lower unit, you will really have problems finding that. These are great old ouboard motors with a scale look that just can't be beat in appearance but they are a little bit heavy. Really , today, they are best just to keep on the shelf and look at. These motors will break gears quite easily if you strike something with the prop and there are no spares to be had, it is not real easy to replace them either. The only way it would be practical to run these again is if someone started making replacement gears . |
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill here is the amps powered baja . ups just delivered it . boy what a whopper and a verry heavy boat . the engine has internal probs and so does the drive foot. body is in pretty good shape for its age. |
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ORIGINAL: Oh Yeah!! Hey Guys, That is super cool!!..... I didn't know they made anything like that. Do they still make them? How do they perform?? Do you have any video of yours running??? Thanks, Phil |
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill i started takeing the engine apart last knight .the front berring under the starter cone was frosen . its turning now feels like a rock crusher. the piston and con rod is missing and the conection drive shaft from the back of the engine to the drive gear in the foot is missing the prop is missing the cowling is missing but its a nice boat. but i dont understand this thing ways a ton even with the engine removed . oh well its on the way. bill payne |
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we need to start making molds of these two parts...http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...6/IMG_1628.jpghttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...6/IMG_1633.jpghttp://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...6/IMG_1627.jpg
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is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne |
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Some awesome pictures!
those engines are looking pretty old yet in excellent looking shape. Diggin the pics! ;) |
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ORIGINAL: WakeBoardnBash Some awesome pictures! those engines are looking pretty old yet in excellent looking shape. Diggin the pics! ;) |
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill is this a zenoah gas engine on an amps foot? i would love a 1/4 scale gas outboard. thanks bill payne |
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well more pics for you all .....:DInternational Hobbie Formula 402 & Twin Outdrives...:).....[X(]$2,100.00 ...OUCH..[X(] thats a lot...cool hull though[8D]
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Here is a link to the zenoah outboard bottom end.
http://ovalexpressracing.com/hardware.html |
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ORIGINAL: STEVE MARSHALL Here is a link to the zenoah outboard bottom end. http://ovalexpressracing.com/hardware.html |
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i have a problem with the spedo cable drives that are tilted so far that they dont look like an outboard motor. but i guess it really doesent matter as i couldent aford the beast if i found it. here is one really nice atempt but cant seam to find the builder. bill payne
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill i have a problem with the spedo cable drives that are tilted so far that they dont look like an outboard motor. but i guess it really doesent matter as i couldent aford the beast if i found it. here is one really nice atempt but cant seam to find the builder. bill payne |
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here is a dummy outboard motor that i just got . now all we nead to do is build a drive train install a big motor. and and and . dream on
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill here is a dummy outboard motor that i just got . now all we nead to do is build a drive train install a big motor. and and and . dream on |
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has any one found out how to get the cowling rem project off the ground yet? just got a new boat that looks like the baja. its the prinzess by robbi. i have had the robbi motor for over 20 years. now i got the package. the boat is not built yet it was new in the box. i included a picture of a boat thats not mine just so you could see one finished with a robbi motor on it. the orange one is mine. i know its not an AMPS. but its still neat . please forgive me. bill payne
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill has any one found out how to get the cowling rem project off the ground yet? just got a new boat that looks like the baja. its the prinzess by robbi. i have had the robbi motor for over 20 years. now i got the package. the boat is not built yet it was new in the box. i included a picture of a boat thats not mine just so you could see one finished with a robbi motor on it. the orange one is mine. i know its not an AMPS. but its still neat . please forgive me. bill payne |
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the prinzess and the baja apear to be scale versions of the GLASTRON GT 150 nobody is building a sport outboard boat . all of the posabilities are for raceing boats. i like electric boats but i dont race. look at all of the interest in all the old glastron boats. on the web. here is the robbe motor and a fiew other their all electric except for the big dummy and the AMPS motor.
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill the prinzess and the baja apear to be scale versions of the GLASTRON GT 150 nobody is building a sport outboard boat . all of the posabilities are for raceing boats. i like electric boats but i dont race. look at all of the interest in all the old glastron boats. on the web. here is the robbe motor and a fiew other their all electric except for the big dummy and the AMPS motor. |
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WOW THATS THE SECOND ENGINE YOUVE SHOWN THIS WEEK WITH AN AMPS/ ZENOAH COMBO. THE FUTURE IS LOOKING FOR OUTBOARDS, BUT GIVEN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE MABY WE NEAD TO BE DEVELOPEING AN ENGINE THAT RUNS ON JACK DANIELS. WHERE CAN WE GET SOME TECKS ON THESE ENGINES?
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill WOW THATS THE SECOND ENGINE YOUVE SHOWN THIS WEEK WITH AN AMPS/ ZENOAH COMBO. THE FUTURE IS LOOKING FOR OUTBOARDS, BUT GIVEN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE MABY WE NEAD TO BE DEVELOPEING AN ENGINE THAT RUNS ON :)JACK DANIELS. WHERE CAN WE GET SOME TECKS ON THESE ENGINES? |
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is there a web sight for the mfg of that foot.? it looks pretty nice.
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ORIGINAL: gas pump bill is there a web sight for the mfg of that foot.? it looks pretty nice. |
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Does anyone have the build sheet / or knowledge for the AMPS Seebold hull? (the enclosed canopy type) I've had this hull since the 80's and would like to get her in the water. However, It appears that the back under side of the transom would have to be ground or cut back in order for the motor to be mounted. Is this right? HELP!
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ORIGINAL: 4square Does anyone have the build sheet / or knowledge for the AMPS Seebold hull? (the enclosed canopy type) I've had this hull since the 80's and would like to get her in the water. However, It appears that the back under side of the transom would have to be ground or cut back in order for the motor to be mounted. Is this right? HELP! |
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