Super Tigre G-51
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Super Tigre G-51
I've got a SuperTigre G-51 with about three gallons through it, using an APC 10x7, a MACs header and an old disk type muffled tuned pipe.
Conditions:[ul][*] Fuel: Ritches Brew 10% nitro 20% oil (10/10)[*] Prop: APC 10x7[*] Temp: 72[*] Humidity: 93% (it's raining)[*] Pressure: 29.88 - 630ft above sea level[/ul]RPM: 15,200
Is that decent for this engine? I was kinda expecting 16,000+. I can never seem to get the numbers out of my engines that you guys do!
Conditions:[ul][*] Fuel: Ritches Brew 10% nitro 20% oil (10/10)[*] Prop: APC 10x7[*] Temp: 72[*] Humidity: 93% (it's raining)[*] Pressure: 29.88 - 630ft above sea level[/ul]RPM: 15,200
Is that decent for this engine? I was kinda expecting 16,000+. I can never seem to get the numbers out of my engines that you guys do!
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
I originally had this engine on a different plane and was using a 12.25x3.75 APC on it and had tuned the pipe for that prop at about 14,000. I have since moved this engine to a more speed oriented plane and have tuned it some more for the 10x7. I guess the 10x6 would give me 16,000 or so but I'm having some fuel foaming issues that I need to sort out. I've balanced the prop three times and it seems perfect but I'm still getting a good bit of vibration out of it. But truthfully, I'm in uncharted territory as I have never tuned an engine for this kind of speed before. The fuel tank is padded on all sides with foam. Plane should be pretty fast I'd image.
I also have a SuperTigre GS-45. What could I expect out of that engine with this exhaust system on it?
I also have a SuperTigre GS-45. What could I expect out of that engine with this exhaust system on it?
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: w8ye
Some G51's have different port timing than others so your results may be less if it has milder timing
Some G51's have different port timing than others so your results may be less if it has milder timing
I didn't like the 10x7 on it so I retuned for an APC 11x5 and like this one much better. I just didn't have the vertical I wanted with the 10x7. I miss the throttle response of the 10x7 though!
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
Tuned the pipe for an APC 10x8 on my G-51 this weekend and got 14,100 out of it. Also tried a 12.25x3.75 and got 13,850. I'm anxious to try the 10x8 and see what kind of speed I gain over the 11x5 I've been using. The pipe wasn't really optimized for that 11x5 anyway. I think the APC 11x5 was turning 14,300 or so if memory serves me correctly.
I really love this engine. I equally love the plane it is on. It is a Rookie clone with a 49" foam core wing. 4lbs 11oz dry. I'm using Hitec HS-225MGs on it.
Next project may be this same plane built a bit stronger with a G-90 and a pipe on it!
I really love this engine. I equally love the plane it is on. It is a Rookie clone with a 49" foam core wing. 4lbs 11oz dry. I'm using Hitec HS-225MGs on it.
Next project may be this same plane built a bit stronger with a G-90 and a pipe on it!
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow
Also tried a 12.25x3.75 and got 13,850.
Also tried a 12.25x3.75 and got 13,850.
ASP .52 with unmuffled tuned 40 size pipe: 14,200 rpm
OS .50 SX with same pipe as above: 14,300 rpm
OS .46 VF with .60 size Macs pipe: 14,100 rpm
(all above were on fuel with 15% nitro, 18% synth/castor blend)
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: jeffie8696
Port and polish it. [img][/img]
Port and polish it. [img][/img]
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I have three readings for you with that prop for comparison (and possibly to aim at).
ASP .52 with unmuffled tuned 40 size pipe: 14,200 rpm
OS .50 SX with same pipe as above: 14,300 rpm
OS .46 VF with .60 size Macs pipe: 14,100 rpm
(all above were on fuel with 15% nitro, 18% synth/castor blend)
ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow
Also tried a 12.25x3.75 and got 13,850.
Also tried a 12.25x3.75 and got 13,850.
ASP .52 with unmuffled tuned 40 size pipe: 14,200 rpm
OS .50 SX with same pipe as above: 14,300 rpm
OS .46 VF with .60 size Macs pipe: 14,100 rpm
(all above were on fuel with 15% nitro, 18% synth/castor blend)
My next project is going to be this same plane with a Tower 75 or ST G-90 with a pipe. That should be fun.
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
The only complaint about my Super Tigre G-51 and GS-45 is the transition is a bit sloppy on them. Just about the time the transition from 1/4 to full is right, the idle is too lean and wants to die on a quick blip of the throttle. Both of my engines are about as lean as I can get them on the bottom end with a slightly rich top end (slight smoke trail at WOT). Transition is where my OS 46AX really shines but at twice the price, it is hard to justify.
I wonder if a Perry carb would be worth a try?
I wonder if a Perry carb would be worth a try?
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
For the mid range tuning loosen the two screws holding the spray bar in the carb barrel. Turn the carb barrel slightly clockwise, maybe 5 minutes if it were a dial, and retighten the two screws. It should lean the mid range just slightly and you can repeat the process untill the mid range is where you like it. I usually have to turn mine about 10 to 12 mins which puts the fuel nipple pointing roughly between the two mounting bolt holes.
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
Here is another number
Fox .50
Fuel==WildCat 5% wth 18% 80/20 blend
Plug==Taipan idle bar
Prop==Bolly 10.5x6
Rpm==13,950 and still improving installing a new ring and BOCA Ceramic bearings.
Carb==Fox EZJust
Fox .50
Fuel==WildCat 5% wth 18% 80/20 blend
Plug==Taipan idle bar
Prop==Bolly 10.5x6
Rpm==13,950 and still improving installing a new ring and BOCA Ceramic bearings.
Carb==Fox EZJust
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: Jezmo
For the mid range tuning loosen the two screws holding the spray bar in the carb barrel. Turn the carb barrel slightly clockwise, maybe 5 minutes if it were a dial, and retighten the two screws. It should lean the mid range just slightly and you can repeat the process untill the mid range is where you like it. I usually have to turn mine about 10 to 12 mins which puts the fuel nipple pointing roughly between the two mounting bolt holes.
For the mid range tuning loosen the two screws holding the spray bar in the carb barrel. Turn the carb barrel slightly clockwise, maybe 5 minutes if it were a dial, and retighten the two screws. It should lean the mid range just slightly and you can repeat the process untill the mid range is where you like it. I usually have to turn mine about 10 to 12 mins which puts the fuel nipple pointing roughly between the two mounting bolt holes.
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: SpinnerRow
Had no idea what you were talking about until I took the carb off and looked at the bottom. Cool idea!
ORIGINAL: Jezmo
For the mid range tuning loosen the two screws holding the spray bar in the carb barrel. Turn the carb barrel slightly clockwise, maybe 5 minutes if it were a dial, and retighten the two screws. It should lean the mid range just slightly and you can repeat the process untill the mid range is where you like it. I usually have to turn mine about 10 to 12 mins which puts the fuel nipple pointing roughly between the two mounting bolt holes.
For the mid range tuning loosen the two screws holding the spray bar in the carb barrel. Turn the carb barrel slightly clockwise, maybe 5 minutes if it were a dial, and retighten the two screws. It should lean the mid range just slightly and you can repeat the process untill the mid range is where you like it. I usually have to turn mine about 10 to 12 mins which puts the fuel nipple pointing roughly between the two mounting bolt holes.
http://www.supertigre.com/faq/product-faq.html#q22
And here is the RCUniverse Manufacturer support thread with Bax posting a link to this same FAQ on SuperTigre's site.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1579985/tm.htm
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: Jezmo
Here is the official SuperTigre site info
http://www.supertigre.com/faq/product-faq.html#q22
And here is the RCUniverse Manufacturer support thread with Bax posting a link to this same FAQ on SuperTigre's site.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1579985/tm.htm
Here is the official SuperTigre site info
http://www.supertigre.com/faq/product-faq.html#q22
And here is the RCUniverse Manufacturer support thread with Bax posting a link to this same FAQ on SuperTigre's site.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1579985/tm.htm
Thanks!
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
Messed with the spray bar location on mine and I didn't notice a difference. The low end is about as lean as I want to get it. It idles great and seems to start easy enough.
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
You probably want to stick with a 10" prop. We have Rookies in our club (originals) and some clones too. Joe has put Jetts on his and gone plenty fast. Mine had a Webra .40 with an Ultra-Thrust, now it's got a TT.40 Pro for some Sport Pylon that we are trying to mix in with Club 40.
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ORIGINAL: Duane-RCU
You probably want to stick with a 10'' prop. We have Rookies in our club (originals) and some clones too. Joe has put Jetts on his and gone plenty fast. Mine had a Webra .40 with an Ultra-Thrust, now it's got a TT.40 Pro for some Sport Pylon that we are trying to mix in with Club 40.
You probably want to stick with a 10'' prop. We have Rookies in our club (originals) and some clones too. Joe has put Jetts on his and gone plenty fast. Mine had a Webra .40 with an Ultra-Thrust, now it's got a TT.40 Pro for some Sport Pylon that we are trying to mix in with Club 40.
This week, I'm going to tune an OS 46AX I have to turn an APC 11x6 to see what I can get out of it. It weighs a bit more than the G-51 though so I might have balance issues. Right now I have it balanced perfect with no added weight.
Anyone think the 46AX will be stouter than the G-51?
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RE: Super Tigre G-51
ORIGINAL: w8ye
The 46AX was tuned for bigger props and lower rpm for noise abatement
The 46AX was tuned for bigger props and lower rpm for noise abatement