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Old 12-04-2010, 08:31 PM
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Default Tamiya Twin Detonator/Wild Dagger hop ups

I want to do a few things to make my truck go faster. Just a question or two for you experienced guys.

1. I'm thinking of fitting these tyres. They are 11mm taller than the standered ones. http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-tma...h-p-32308.html. The gearing would be a little taller with these tyres. Will the gearbox etc hold up to the extra strain?

2. What would you choose batterypack wise? A 7.4V Lipo pack or a 8.4V Nicad pack to replace the stock 7.2V pack?

3. I want to replace the stock 540 motors with RS540 sport tuned motors. Can the stock ESC handle the about 50% increase in power consumption?

4.I want tomake my trucklighter. What aftermarketparts will assist me in going the right way?

Please help me out with my questions.
Old 12-12-2010, 08:40 AM
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Default RE: Tamiya Twin Detonator/Wild Dagger hop ups

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I want to do a few things to make my truck go faster. Just a question or two for you experienced guys.

1. I'm thinking of fitting these tyres. They are 11mm taller than the standered ones. http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-tma...h-p-32308.html. The gearing would be a little taller with these tyres. Will the gearbox etc hold up to the extra strain?

2. What would you choose batterypack wise? A 7.4V Lipo pack or a 8.4V Nicad pack to replace the stock 7.2V pack?

3. I want to replace the stock 540 motors with RS540 sport tuned motors. Can the stock ESC handle the about 50% increase in power consumption?

4. I want to make my truck lighter. What aftermarket parts will assist me in going the right way?

Please help me out with my questions.
1:The gearbox should be fine, I woulf wonder about the dog bones and the possibility of overheating the motors. Myself, I'd look for tires that are larger diameter, but are thinner to reduce the tire weight. Something like crawler tires.

2:Either should work fine. You just have to find a place to mount them. Velcro straps work well for mounting.

3:The problem with using sport tuned motors in the dagger chassis is the sport tunes have advance timing, so they run faster forward than reverse. Since the dagger requires that one gearbox is flipped and the motor run in reverse, the front and rear wheels would be run at different speeds. The stock two motor ESC will handle sport tuned motors fine.

4:The stock plastic parts are probably as light as you'll get. Xtreme Racing makes carbon fiber chassis's for the dagger. They're probably about the same weight, but they're a fair amount stronger and more rigid as well.
http://www.xtremercracing.com/Wild_D...iber_Parts.cfm
Old 12-12-2010, 09:32 AM
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3:The problem with using sport tuned motors in the dagger chassis is the sport tunes have advance timing, so they run faster forward than reverse. Since the dagger requires that one gearbox is flipped and the motor run in reverse, the front and rear wheels would be run at different speeds. The stock two motor ESC will handle sport tuned motors fine.
That I did not know. Thanks for the heads-up. I really thought they were built for applications like this. Any other suggestions for a motor? I am thinking of also buying a TEU 103BK Tamiya twin motor esc so I might be able to run a bit hotter motors than the Sport Tuned 540's.
But of course I dont want to spend too much on this truck. I'veseen a video today of a Traxxas Slash and I know the Twin Detonator wont come closeuntil I spend more on it than the Slashs costs RTR out of the box!. I'drather spendmoney on something likethat. But I would have been satisfied with the Sport Tuned motors,Lipo and steel bearings. Just a pitythe motorswon't work
Old 12-12-2010, 05:31 PM
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The easiest and most positive way to be sure a motor is at 0 degrees timing(so that it will spin the same speed forward as reverse) is to get a motor with adjustable timing as it will have the degrees of timing marked on it and you can just loosen the endbell and turn it to the correct timing. Unfortunately there aren't a whole lot of adjustable brushed motors anymore (except for crawlers).
You could either get a upgrade to a lipo, which with give you a little extra power and speed out of your stock motors or get a high voltage (HV) system which runs on 14-16 volts(two batteries) .A HV system will give you quite a bit more speed and power.

HV motors(these have advanced timing, but are available in regular or reverse rotation)
regular
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXF54&P=V
reverse
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVDT4&P=7

HV ESC
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXSLU9&P=ML
or
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPCU5&P=7
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Default RE: Tamiya Twin Detonator/Wild Dagger hop ups

Good advice, thanks.
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Default RE: Tamiya Twin Detonator/Wild Dagger hop ups

I am doing the same.  It has been fun building it and is quite challenging (but fun) to research and upgrade.  Seems like the Dagger has lost a lot of aftermarket support but it is still upgradeable.  You just have to research the parts in a bit more detail since there is not a lot of bolt on parts anymore.  I am currently looking to upgrade the stering links with turnbuckles from lunsfordracing.com.

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