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Old 03-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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I just ordered my Sukhoi.

OK Mike I have both your planes, I bought this one because you said it's your best ever and I really like my 260.

Old 03-09-2008, 03:07 PM
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Well No plane yet !!!!

Mike,
I have a question about the RX /Servo battery setup.
I'm going to run 2- A123 batterys (2p-2300mAh) for the RX / servos. I have read that you don't have to regulate them just plug them in to the RX.
I cant find any spec. on the HD JR switchs. can they handle 7-10amp draws from the Servo's.
and what conector setup (deans - JR in to switch to RX) I see that Fromeco has some nice switchs and Sin city jets has a HD JR style switch with 18g. wire.
any thoughts and pictures would be great.
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

Mike -

I just wanted to say WOW! I'm building two of these for customers of our local hobby shop. Building really is not the right term. I wish everything was this easy!

One question for you - the manual calls for an 58-85 engine. Have you had any experience or testing with this plane and the Evolution 58? The specs describe about a 1HP different between a DA-85 and the Evolution 58. Thinking it might still fly fairly well with the 58. Did you test this combo? Would it pull out of a hover?

Thanks a million - This is a great product and everything is top notch! Just love the pilot figure!!
Old 03-13-2008, 06:57 PM
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

Lets see some pics! ! ! !
Old 03-14-2008, 02:20 AM
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

The Evo 58 can throw a 23" prop and the DA-85 throws a 27" prop. No comparison.
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dubd -

I have got an Evo-58 and I am currently flying a 24x10 with a pitts-style muffler. The manual calls for up to a 26" prop. I have read several places that with a can/pipe, this motor really produces the horsepower. It currently is in my heavy (about 20 lb) 30% yak now and it flys overpowered. I realize the motor is no DA-85, but I think an 85 in a 33% plane is overkill anyway. A lot of guys at my field are now using the 85 in 35% airplanes and they still are unbelievable. Was just hoping to get Mike's take on if they did any testing with the Suk and the Evolution 58...

Thanks
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

good question!

Mike, the 58 on a pipe has got perform at least as good as a stock GT80! and that was th old H9 recomendation for th 33%rs
Old 03-17-2008, 01:12 PM
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I havent flown the Suk with the 58 so I dont have any real world experience there. With the ppwer I've seen from the 58, I think it'll fly it well, but nowhere close to the power from the DA-85.
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

A couple of quick questions that I do not see in the thread

What if any is the header drop needed with the DA85

I am assuming the can is the MTW110 and not the MTW110K (which I have already)
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I'm ordering my 85 and 110 from Airwild and they did not know which header drop was required for the SUKI. I told them that MM had developed the system with DA and the guys at DA would know what the SUKI needed but when airwild got back to me they said the guys at DA had no clue what they were talking about. There seems to be a lot of confusion on this.

Mike I guess we would all appreciate if you could fill in the blanks. thanks
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Mike - I completed this airplane with the acceptation of the pipe and all I can say is nice job man. Everything was bolted together and all travel adjustments made in less than 10 hours. I am not a fast builder, but I took the day off and finished it that same day. I feel this is a very easy airplane to assemble....

1. Can you please let us all know the header drop?
2. The manual specifies an MTW 100 can but you say you used the MTW 110. Was this a typo in the manual?
3. There are a lot of open holes up front that will let a lot of air into the fuselage. Should I cap off these holes with light weight balsa?

thanx/Bruce
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Anyone know if the plane is out yet?? Still waiting for mine since december.

[:'(][:@][:-]

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The guys at DA told me, that Mike told them, that the header is a 12mm drop.
DA said they had put some on order with their vendor but it might be another month or so.

Is that 12mm correct Mike?
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When I ordered my engine from DA, they told me use the flex 25mm drop header. I my self have only seen 3 different drops in headers, 0, 25mm, and 50mm. DA told me that you had to use the flex header, but were out of headers and 110 MTW canisters. Horizon told my LHS that a small shippment came in of Sukhois. Next shippment, end of March. I got ahold of a 25mm drop header, and MTW 110 canister from Troy Built Models, crossing my fingers that DA was right, as down loaded manual calls for MTW110 canister, not header drop. This should be put in the manual, or put a a setup sheet, for DA85 engine install. RICK
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I just looked up on TBM's web site, I stand corrected, they carry the MTW110K cannister, I think it is larger in diameter but shorter. The way you determine header drop, is center line of exhaust is 2 3/4 inches down from crank c/L. So measure down on fire wall crank c/l. This will tell you how much more you need to line up with canister, of course this is only good if you have the plane in front of you. So for most of us, we will have to wait to see if some one clears this up or until some one gets the right setup installed, and posts the results. RICK
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ORIGINAL: serge1

Anyone know if the plane is out yet?? Still waiting for mine since december.

[:'(][:@][:-]

Thanks
Apparently Horizon had them a couple of weeks ago for about 4-5 days before they ran out. Apparently mine has been shipped. Still waiting for it to get here. Still holding on the DA till someone comes out with a definite answer on the header drop.
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

The canister is the MTW110K. If the manual says 100 I missed that. Its a typo.

The header drop is 12mm. Somehow we got our wires crossed with DA on this and they lost the info so we had to start over on that recently. They will have headers specifically for the Suk, but unfortunately they arent here yet. As a matter of fact I need one. I sent them back the custom header from my model and its sitting grounded waiting on an exhaust too.
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Thanks for the info Mike. I dug around and I have enough header parts to make one for the 85 so I'm good to go [sm=thumbs_up.gif]
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Hi Mr. Mike,

I have run into a problem with my new suhkoi. I got the reccomended MTW 110 canister for the plane and when I tried to install them, there was no way to get them in without serious alterations to the plane. I am not sure if someone has gone over the easiest way to fix this already, but if someone could go over the methods to fix this problem again I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Neil
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

Neil,

Just so I know, is that the MTW110K or the MTW110. there is a diameter difference in both with the 110K being a lot more in diameter
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Hey guys,

The MTW 110K that is reccommended for this airplane will NOT fit. It is too big in diameter and won't fit under the hump in the landing gear. The canister that you want is the MTW 110. That will fit under the hump.

Neil
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Neil,

I just found that out not 5 minutes ago [>:] Hope someone has a MTW110 for sale. DA has been nothing but busy signals for the last 3 business days and leaving a message is kinda worthless as they have never called me back when I do leave one but once on the phone they are great to deal with

I also found a few other items for people to look at

All 4 of the gear bolts were drilled slightly off, roughly 1/16th of an inch, I just drilled the holes a bit bigger, at first I thought I had the gear backwards. Depending on how you look at it it is either the gear plate or the holes in the gear. I also found very little glue on the gear plate. I added epoxy to it and a couple of pieces of tri-stock. Don't forget to pin the firewall. I know we know we are supposed to do that but I found very little glue on the firewall as well

I also found 4 cracks in the cowl around the ring, one on each side and top and bottom. Not too bad but deffintely there. I have NO foam inside the cowl like some others say they had.

Sorry folks, I'm a bit frustrated right now. I thought Ihad everything I needed already based on the above posts and was hoping to fly it this weekend.
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ORIGINAL: Neilbo4

Hey guys,

The MTW 110K that is reccommended for this airplane will NOT fit. It is too big in diameter and won't fit under the hump in the landing gear. The canister that you want is the MTW 110. That will fit under the hump.

Neil

Just read from another post on FG that the 110K is 80mm dia. and the 110 is 70mm dia. Hope this helps.
Lyle
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Hey Mr. Bill,

Are you going to go flying with Vince and I either Wednesday or Friday?

Neil
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Default RE: NEW Hangar 9 85cc SU-26MM Sukhoi

Gentlemen,

This is getting very confusing. In an earlier post Mike says he made a typo and that the MTW should have been 110K and not 110 as in the manual. Now we have the guys who got their planes saying they can't install the 110K because its fatter than the 110. Which is it? Mike can you please lay this to rest. I have been putting off ordering my gear till the dust has settled and everything is clear. And all that translates too is that I wont have this baby ion the air for at least another 4 weeks.[]

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