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Wingtip smoke
Several years ago I read an article regarding the installation of wingtip smoke. Anyone have a better memory and can point me to the magazine or article?
Anyone have any experience or ideas? Bulding an upsized CG Ultimate (65" wing) and now is the perfect time to install. Thanks |
Wingtip smoke
That sounds cool. Let us know if you find out how to do it.
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Wingtip smoke
I recall an article in RCM with a 1/3 laser or similar with copper tubes in the wing to route exh/smoke out there. Looked like a lot of stuff.
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Wingtip smoke
Thanks for the heads up on the RCM article. Do you have any idea how far back?? I do remember a friend sending me a copy of an article approx. 5 - 6 years ago, cannot remember where it came from. That's old age for ya.
Thanks again I'll search their site. |
Wingtip smoke
in model aviation a guy built a 1/2 scale formula 1 racer. He used a small diameter metal tube in the LE to get the smoke to the wing tips. I thought there was more in the article but it just mentions the tubes.
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Wingtip smoke
Biplane et al,
An article written by Dan Santich on this subject appeared in the Octobrer '85 issue of Model Airplane News concerning this topic. Dan, later on, (unfortunately I do not have the date) again wrote in MAN on this subject piping a BIG HOTS for tip smoke. He used brass tubing and high temperature nylon fittings for the job. MAN can probably dig out the article upon request John (MAAC - 13304L) |
FYI
found this on google-- hope it helps
So, a small thread going here previously about whether or not you can get smoke out of a tuned pipe. Despite the naysayers - YOU CAN! Here's my setup: A Supertiger .61 with ST Tuned pipe, 12x6 prop (this is not a long stroke engine!), 10% fuel. Pressure tap on the crankcase, with a check valve, going to the smoke tank. Du-Bro shutoff valve. 18" of brass tubing wrapped around the cylinder head (not obstructing any cooling fins), and then another 36" of tubing wrapped around the exhaust header, as close to the exhaust port as possible. The header tubing has been wrapped with flame resistant cloth, which is originally from a pad sold in hardware stores to protect areas from torch burns while soldering water pipe. The insulation is used to keep heat in, and wind chill off. The smoke tap is about 1" from the exhaust port. My ST header had cooling fins on it, which I ground off to make room for the tubing. Smoke trail is not as fantastic as that previously produced using my YS 120, but is still very acceptable. Clearly visible, good hang time, produces enough that I can pull VERY large loops and complete the smoke circle. Residual heat is good for smoke throughout a stall turn, if I keep the power off for a minimum of time. No flameouts at idle. I do loose a few hundred rpm with smoke on. Unsure whether this is due to the change in crankcase pressure, or blow back of fluid into the cylinder. 1 gal. of Bennet's Best smoke oil use, no sign of problems when I pulled the head to check. No, I wouldn't use this system on a YS or any engine with silicon parts, but I have no reason to believe it wouldn't work on most other 61 piped installations. Consumption is 16 oz. in about 10 min. -- Ted Sander University of Minn. **[email protected]** |
Wingtip smoke
Hi Biplane,
A thought crossed my mind just minutes ago. (Not often but I get one of those every other fix.) Question the net on "SMOKE" for R/C planes of Radio control planes and tons of accessible sites will show up just about all with information regarding smoke. It may not provide infor on your specific need but will provide you with everything else. Good lick Jean |
Wingtip smoke
My flying buddy has a plane with wing tip smoke. When he was building the wing, he put in flexible electrical conduit (it looks a little like BX cable). It's a pretty big plane, so the weight was not a big issue. He jerry rigged a connection to the exhaust of the Quadra 40 (called something else now) using high temp silicone tubing. It works great. If you have any questions, let me know.
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Wingtip smoke
"OK", here's the plan so far. I found out that my employer sells a nylon tubing in sizes 1/4>1/2" ID with fittings. It is rated up to about 60 psi and is made to carry hydraulic oil, temp rating over 250 degrees for sure.
The plane is set up with a Webre 120 and tuned pipe inside the fuse. If I follow wbrain's post I can easily get smoke to the wingtips. Unique, but would it become boring? I can do both by using the new smoke nozzle injector and wrap the pipe, add one valve and wingtip is on and off. Might be adding to much weight. Will have to weigh the finished pieces and do some calculations. I know the CG Ultimate ARF flys really well on an OS 1.08. that's been my biplane trainer. That plane weighs 9.5 lbs. The smoke system added 1 lb. (total 10.5 lbs.) with it's own battery. You can mount two 16 oz tanks side by side on the CG in the stock Ultimate fuse. With the tuned pipe in the fuse have not yet determined tank arrangement. This board is great, the people here are very helpful. Thanks |
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