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strangebrew mx 10-24-2007 03:23 PM

fuel?
 
So whats the trick to keeping fuel in your engine when flying upside down?

Laird SS 10-24-2007 03:28 PM

RE: fuel?
 
What do you mean? Most of us keep our fuel in the fuel tank and pressurize it with a line from the muffler on the engine. Suction moves the fuel through the carb and into the engine.

strangebrew mx 10-24-2007 03:29 PM

RE: fuel?
 
just got into gas. Seems when I do a loop or upside down flying my plane boggs out on me.

khodges 10-24-2007 03:30 PM

RE: fuel?
 
No trick; the clunk inside the tank keeps the fuel line in fuel, and muffler pressure (or carb pump on a gas engine) keeps positive fuel pressure. The engine itself doesn't care which way it's pointed, it will run as long as fuel can get to the carb.

Just saw your return post. Sounds like you might have a mixture issue. What engine, and have you played with the needles yet?

strangebrew mx 10-24-2007 03:31 PM

RE: fuel?
 
I have a brass tubing going into my tank should I connect a rubber tubing and a clunker to it?

seanreit 10-24-2007 03:33 PM

RE: fuel?
 
Two words, "header tank".

The best one is sold at bvmjets.com called a UAT.

strangebrew mx 10-24-2007 03:43 PM

RE: fuel?
 
looks pretty cool. question is it worth 60 bucks?

seanreit 10-24-2007 03:54 PM

RE: fuel?
 
How many airplanes do you have? I have 6 and they are all Turbine Jets. Each of them has one. 6 jets, call it $5,000 a jet, even though they are more like $8, and then 6 times 60 is a measley 360 clams.

Ya, they are are worth it ;)

For a prop plane, you could get away with what we used to do in Ducted Fan, which is basically a four ounce tank plumbed the way a normal tank is. Just plumb it between the main tank and the engine. That way the engine is always drawing from a full tank. The clunk will never be suspended in air.

FWIW.

Charlie P. 10-24-2007 04:14 PM

RE: fuel?
 


ORIGINAL: strangebrew mx

So whats the trick to keeping fuel in your engine when flying upside down?
Install the engine upside down so when the model is inverted it's running right side up. ;-)

Header tank is a nice idea but my glow engines have muffler pressure while my gassers have diaphram pumps. I generally don't fly-'em-dry and land before the klunk sucks air.

Keep enough forward motion up so the fuel all sloshes back to where the tank is. Speed is life!

da Rock 10-24-2007 04:18 PM

RE: fuel?
 


ORIGINAL: strangebrew mx

I have a brass tubing going into my tank should I connect a rubber tubing and a clunker to it?

If you're talking about inside the tank, yes, you need tubing with a clunk on it inside the tank. If you don't, that's your problem.

strangebrew mx 10-24-2007 04:57 PM

RE: fuel?
 
Then that is my problem. Thank you.

Insanemoondoggie 10-24-2007 06:05 PM

RE: fuel?
 
$30.000 in Jets, Whew ! that come with a basement ? jk

Dr1Driver 10-25-2007 06:27 AM

RE: fuel?
 
Be sure to use only neporene lines. Silicone will quickly melt and Tygon hardens with age. I use a sintered bronze clunk in my tanks. Keep the end of the clunk about 3/8" away from the back wall of the tank.

Dr.1

bigchap 10-25-2007 06:27 PM

RE: fuel?
 
put a cork in the carb throat!:D

MinnFlyer 10-26-2007 10:07 AM

RE: fuel?
 

ORIGINAL: Dr1Driver

Be sure to use only neporene lines. Silicone will quickly melt and Tygon hardens with age.
I know he said, "Gas", but I am assuming that since he didn't realize that he needed a clunk, he is using Glow fuel, not Gasoline

Rodney 10-26-2007 11:16 AM

RE: fuel?
 
The clunk for most gasoline engines is usually slightly larger and often differs from a nitro fueled engine by having a felt like covering over the clunk as well as a screen filter at the mouth of the clunk. This aids greatly in getting good fuel flow as the tank nears the empty mark. With the felt filter, you will get the last drop of gas out of the tank. Check with your local lawn mower shop for possible sources of fuel line suitable for gasoline as well as tanks and clunks at usually a lower price than the local hobby shop.

Flying freak 10-26-2007 02:35 PM

RE: fuel?
 
hey sean, just a Q for ya, since glow engines don't use pumps like the jet guys do (most don't, yes i know about perry pumps and things like that but it isn't the slandered)

wouldnt one of those UAT's just give you problems with restriction..?

Just a thought..

Steven


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