randykrul

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I have been looking on ebay for a royal Cessna 310Q kit. I finally got one for a reasonable price. I have started to build the kit, I forgot that these kits are not easy to build.
I know there is one link to a building thread, but I need more info, if I can find it.
I am thinking of 2 Saito .56 4 stroke engines, what do you think?
What kind of retracts? Spring air preferred.
Should I build in flaps?
I was thinking of modifying the nose into an R version, has anybody else done this?
The kit came with a full cockpit kit as well. I am studying where to put the servos, receiver,etc. The cockpit will take up a lot of the cabin space.
Since I fly turbines, I really like brakes, I plan on using unibrakes (these are now being sold by Robart)
I am not after pure scale, but I would like a nice scale appearance. I will probably cover wiht Monkote, I'm too lazy to glass, prime, sand & paint.
I am just searching for any ideas, tips & tricks from anyone who has experience with this kit.
Photos are nice if available. I want to build in any mods while in the skeleton phase of building.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Randy Krul

drifter

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Here are a couple of pics of a Royal 310 just completed by a club member, Joe Portera.
The plane has two OS 46fx's, Hobbico (I think) retracts, and is covered with Monokote. It flies smooth as silk, with excess power on this setup. No flaps.
Second pic shows a too steep takeoff. OS's pulled it almost straght up.

drifter

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pics

jaka

Hi!
I flew one 25 years ago. Used Enya .40 X twostrokes.
Way too powerfull.
I recommend OS .40 LA engines and build it light.
I don't want to be rude in any way but if you can't build one of these Marutaka kits without any building instructions you are not ready for a scale twin airplane. Go for a simpler model first and after some years when you have enough building and flying experience ...then go for the twin.
Sorry!

Regards!
Jan K

randykrul

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I was originally thinking of the OS 46's, but was toying around with the idea of the nice sounds of 4 strokes. Looks like 40's are plenty of power. Does your friend "joe" know what is the final dry weight is of his model. Did he have to add any weight to get the CG correct? Very beautiful 310, by the way. Does he have the cockpit kit installed? Since he doesn't have flaps, how is the speed on landings? I guess I will save weight by not adding flaps. I am having a lot of fun building this kit, just have to be careful to measure everything and build some jigs. I have the wings and nacelles done and am ready to build the fuse.
Randy Krul

drifter

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This was Joe's first twin. I'll ask your questions when I see him. He's not on here. He does have the cockpit kit installed. The only problem so far will be remedied when he buys a five pound box of flare. He get mesmerized watching it come in, and forgets to pull the nose up.

BTW, that fence in the background is 10 feet tall and quite a distance away. I'm the only person I know of who has actually hit it. Had to climb it to get my wing and servos off.

TooLow

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Hope this is of some help--- go to http://www.artazlin.com/projects/pro...a310qIndex.htm and have a towl handy cuz your gonna drool! This should answer your 4 stroke question for the 310

roncoleman

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TooLow,

Good photo info and it looks much better than that 310 ARF
in the other thread.

Ron

TooLow

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Thought it might help in the construction dept. When I built my Royal 310--sure wish I had some of the info enclosed in that site. As for that Nitro 310--I went and bought it. I plan on "doctoring" the 310 a bit to help the looks. Sure is a big one! Well designed with all the laser cutting. Should fly well with a pair of 91 4-strokes

roncoleman

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Well post a few photos when you have it all dolled up. The price
makes it a good deal being that the Royal 310Q kit goes for
around 275-350 bucks these days. I may talk myself into getting
one, ARRRRF [sm=cry_smile.gif].

yl5295

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Here's mine I building. Scratch from Royal plans. Only Mod so far is a cut foam wing cores and made the very first bulkhead about 1/4" wider to accomdate a B&D pneumatic nose gear. It is ready for glass now.

Customizations so far include lighting kit (my design), torque rod control on tail feathers for no exposed push rods/horns, and split flaps.

I would love to find an interior kit for it. I bought the top flight cockpit kit but the 1/5 scale kit will not work well in the 1/7th kit. I am going to have to form a canopy that is a little more scale.

randykrul

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I have a set of B&D retracts which I will probably use. I notice you added flaps, I was thinking of adding them but to a more scale split flap config. Do you have any pictures of the nose gear install? I have the cockpit kit and canopy. I could send you a photo of the cockpit kit, if that will help. I am tempted to make a plaster mold for the canopy so that I could make replacements if needed. There is a seller on ebay that sells Royal interior kits from time to time, not sure if he has any for the 310. What engines are you going to use?
Randy

roncoleman

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yl5295,

Looks real good. If you think about it, I would like to see some detail
pictures of it when you done.

Ron

yl5295

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You have to modify the nose to get the B&D nose gear to fit. You have to do the bulkhead mods before you build the nose.

I would really like to buy the canopy and interior kit if any one has any leads or ideas.

I did not realize that these flaps are not scale. They were made based on the scale lines on the plans. Are you saying that only the lower surface is supposed to be flaps and the upper wing surface is not moveable? I might have to redo this then...

Sounds like I better get some scale pictures... any ideas? I found this but I don't think these flaps are stock:

http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircra..._310Q/6068.htm

drifter

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Here is one pic that shows split flaps. The 3 views I have seen do not show a flap line in the top view.

regards

quote]ORIGINAL: yl5295
I did not realize that these flaps are not scale. They were made based on the scale lines on the plans. Are you saying that only the lower surface is supposed to be flaps and the upper wing surface is not moveable? I might have to redo this then...

Sounds like I better get some scale pictures... any ideas? I found this but I don't think these flaps are stock:

http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircra..._310Q/6068.htm
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Timoteo

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Here's a link for you. Lot of 310 pix.

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true

randykrul

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The 310Q & R have split flaps. I looked at hundreds of photos on the web and got some good color schemes as well as some good details of gear, gear doors, flaps, interiors etc. The R version has a longer nose than the Q. There are some other subtle differences, and several variations that some owners have change to their individual aircraft. It all depends on how true to scale you want to get. The flaps you have would be fine. On split flaps, I use a carbon fiber sheet (used as flex-plates for gear) because it is thin light & strong. I just don't know if I want to put that much effort into the scale appearance. Then there is scale gear doors?, scale struts?. If I start going more true scale I would want all of that. I do all of this on Jets and it makes for a lot of work and a lot of systems that can fail, if not working properly. This is a smaller model and the room needed for all of this is limited, plus the weight added has to be considered. The Nolsen 310, which is larger, would be easier to add scale features. The new ARF 310 is not even close to scale.
Randy

Nebgonf

hey guys, I'm selling a Royal/Marutaka Cessna 310Q on ebay now. Check it out, item #150089492211

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...2211&rd=1&rd=1

randykrul

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I now have the Cessna 310 ready for final assembly. I am now going to mount the stab, vert. fin, tip tanks & nacelles. Everything is glassed and primed. The most critical parts, are the nacelles. I have measured, re-mesured, but I am not sure about getting the incidence correct. Any good methods of measuring this. The plans look like the engine incidence is 0%, but there is no mention of this. I do have a Robart Incidence meter, but this process seems difficult for this model. Does anyone know for sure that the incidence is actually at zero, with the wing. The plans do give the engine offsets of 3.5% & 4% left and right. Any hint, tips or photos of your methods would be appreciated.
Thank You
Randy Krul

rkcruit

Hello Randykrul,

I know this has been a few years, but would you happen to have the build manual (operators manual) for the Royal Cessna 310Q?

Thank you.
Robert