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Old 02-26-2007, 08:14 PM
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I was looking at the exposed wood under the flaps. It looks like an area where fuel will work its way under the covering and start peeling back with time. I was thinking of sealing the edges where covering meets bare wood. Should I use epoxy to seal this area and then paint, or does anyone have any other ideas? I read where someone used nail polish and another person painted the area. I would think the fuel wood cause the area to bubble with time. Can I mix paint into the epoxy? Thanks
Old 02-26-2007, 08:17 PM
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Bobby,

Got the Saito 82's installed - inverted. Only the bottom of the Nacelle had to be cut. Also need one small hole on the side for a needle valve extension.

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Old 02-26-2007, 08:42 PM
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Puncho, I plan to mix up a batch of 30 minute epoxy and thin it out with alcohol then apply it to the flap area, this will seal the wood after it dries. Then I'll follow with a coat of flat fuel-proof paint, and believe me that'll work real good and no problems with fuel exposure after that!
Old 02-26-2007, 08:51 PM
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Thanks To Dave Turner we have inner doors. Not much room in there, he had to make some clearance for the air cylinder. And to compaire is a picture of our Barron-55 inner gear door.
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Old 02-26-2007, 09:04 PM
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Excelent...... are you gonna send us some pix?
Old 02-26-2007, 09:49 PM
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orvel, Thanks!

I was reading through the directions again and It said " Whenever the term glue is written you should rely upon your experience to decided on what type of glue to use". What is everyone else going to use, CA or Epoxy?
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Puncho,

I did it exactly the way orvel did it. I used epoxy mixed with denatured alcohol, brushed it on, and waited until it dried. Then I masked it all off and sprayed it with matching LustreKote. Looks great and totally fuel proof.
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Puncho, when you're building any airplane the rule-of-thumb is high stress areas (wing joiners, firewalls, landing gear supports, flying surfaces, servo block mounts/trays, etc.) you use epoxy, other general areas is a matter of preference. The manual also tells you when to use a specific type of glue.
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Bobby - I'll post some pics tomorrow.

Bob
Old 02-27-2007, 03:53 PM
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Hey all, I have been reading this forum keep it up! All great information. I built a 310 for a customer that also used 2 - Saito .82's but I just mounted them sideways and extended the throttle arms with extenders I machined from plastic. Cutting the nacelles was a bit tedious; however I was able to keep the hole/s to a minimum. I used the stock muffler with a slot down the side. If it was mine I might have inverted or at least used a flex pipe for exhaust. But the customer gets what they want.

Also be careful “painting” the flap area the seam at the back of the flap box below the hinges had a little gap and I didn’t notice. Seal this area with a little gap filling CA then seal or paint. The result was a dark line under the MonoKote that showed through. I had to remove a small section of the covering and sand a little to remove it. It turned out OK though since the new covering looks like a panel line, although I kind of lost the “scale appearance” with 2 mufflers hanging out the side. )

Another area I had to give a little love too was the aileron servo hatch. The ply step that you screw the servo hatch to was a little loose so give that some CA before you screw in the hatch. We elected to not put the bigger gear doors on but I love to see how you guys are tackling that job. A couple guys in the club are semi-scaling out their 310’s with better cockpits, doors and more. I will see if I can get them to post.

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Old 02-27-2007, 04:00 PM
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Hi TSP, Looks awesome as usual. Can you tell us the items you purchased and where you got them?
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Dang.......
Ordered the retracts one month ago, was supposed to be here late Feb. Just checked again and now they are saying mid-March.[>:]
What ever happend to instant gratification
On an other note, Saito's due here today. I'm waitin on FED EX guy like a father waits for his daughter to come home from prom nite ! "Where is that dude"
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I ordered my cessna 310 & retract from Tower hobby on 2/7 and both still in back order. They change the in-stock date all the time, the most updated schedule is mid-Mar. gee...how long I gonna wait to spend some good money.
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As long as it takes if you really want one!!!!!
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Bobby - here 2 pics with Saito 82's mounted inverted. The piece of plywood in the photo will be monocoted and screwed in place to reduce size of the opening. This way it can be removed in the event you want to remove the nacelle. The small hole in the front of the cowl is for the "Twin Sync" magnet pick up device.

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Old 02-27-2007, 08:22 PM
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:37 PM
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The Fed Ex Dude showed up with the Saitos.... SWEEET

I ripped open the box and flew downstairs with one motor in hand. I got to be lookin, and thinkin. Then I broke out the dremmel.
About an hr later I had the left engine mounted horizontally with the cowl on and only the chrome rocker boxes sticking through and only a VERY small portion of the top side of some fins. I am So STOKED. It lookes totally cool. I am going to slightly "blister" the cowl where the fins are. The rocker boxes do not offend the cowl one bit in my mind.

Now just have to work out the throttle linkage. On the exhaust, I'm going with a flexable exhaust pipe that will exit out one of the two exhaust ports on the "belly pan"
Old 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM
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Well Gentlemen, it flys and it is still in 1 peice after 8 flights in Jacksonville Festival Of Giants this last weekend. Lost an engine on the first flight but was able to get it back to the runway on one engine. I did clean my shorts afterwards! OS 55s performed excellant and are still breaking in on 12x6 props. A great airplane and Top Flite really out did themselves on this one! Have fun all of you cause your gonna love this plane.
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:24 PM
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Congratulations!

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Old 02-27-2007, 10:31 PM
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Hey All!

I was just surfing Tower. they have the OS .50SX ringed in stock!!!!

Limited Quantities though.

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I thinned and epoxy-ed the under exposed wood flap areas as recommended from this thread. I then painted that area with Rust-Oleum Appliance Epoxy sprain paint. It looks good. I think it's sealed from any fuel exposure. I also spray painted the area where the Robart retracts will mount under the wings. It looks a lot better then the bare wood look. With the retracts being held up until mid March, I'm in no rush and will take my time and build this plane right.
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Aerotech for the hinges and methel acralate glue . Bob violet for the door cylinders. Standard Robart wheels ( we made em fit pictures later)
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Hi Mike -

I think yours is the first report of a flight on one engine. I think we would all be interested in knowing if you idled back the running engine and landed as if it were a dead stick, or were you able to keep power on the running engine and keep the plane flying?

Bob
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Congradulatons Mike On your Engine Out Success. Glad I hung on to the .55AX's. Please us know how you handled it.
Thanks for the Pix.
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Nice to see some flying pics!

And another "Kudos" for bringing her down in one piece.

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