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Old 08-14-2007, 06:42 AM
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Hot dang, you've been busy in the shop.That's really starting to take shape and the pics are excellent. Looks like you have the nice gear installed with the pneumatic brakes, that'll be nice. That was the first thing I did when I seen the options that were included in my Nosen kit for the gear," hello Robart, I need this." It won't be too long and you'll be fitting motors, etc. If you mentioned what you were planning on using for power I don't remember.
Your project makes me tempted to retrieve the spare Nosen I have stored overhead in the garage and reserect it. I can't say here what the wife called it when I brought it home, but the Robart nose gear is what I basically bought the whole thing for. Any special plans for covering and final paint scheme? I'll have to add here that the Nosen I just referred to was covered in white Monokote, nuff said there, huh? Thanks for the pics and the update on your 310 project, lookin' good .[8D][8D]
Old 08-14-2007, 08:22 AM
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I sure have been busy, but with work, not airplanes.
The credit for all the progress here goes to Dick, the master craftsman in the pics - He's been plugging away, and exceeding every expectation on this project.
I'm afraid ive been more of a 'technical consultant' on this one (fancy term for 'did nothing'- ha!). But I think when it comes down to finishing, I might end up playing more of a roll, with the final details of painting and rivets and panel lines and......can you say rivet party? There are many aspects of this design that have been modified for a more scale apearance. The plane will be finished with glass and paint, w/ g-38's for power.
Old 08-14-2007, 08:38 PM
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How about this scheme?
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:42 AM
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Well, "hats off" to Dick, the builder, and I'm sure you'll make up for it when the "rivet party" starts. The paint scheme you pictured is sweet, actually, the plane will look good with just about any scheme you splash on it, mild to wild and anywhere in between. The G-38's should do you a good job in the power department. The visual effect of this bird in the air is awesome, if yours flies like mine, it's a pleasure to fly. Did you get the cowls yet, curious as to what they look like? And above all, don't forget the strobes in the tips of the wing tip tanks. I'm guessing a "full" interior, tan leather would look nice with the white and maroon paint scheme. Any details available as far as hidden access to the rcvr switches and air fills for the gear, etc?
Old 08-20-2007, 11:54 PM
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The last pic shows an access hatch in the scale location on the right rear side, - thats where we'll put the switches, charge jacks, air fill fittings, etc.
Right now we're working how to shut the inner gear doors after deployed, the inner doors are too long to let hang during a grass landing.
Will probably go with a comercially available gear door sequencer.
Dick is going to build the cowls and windscreen, so Im sure they will be nice.
The plans are not very scale as far as the fuse sides and top go - they show it too 'box-ish'. We 'rounded' things out a bit on the top formers to hopefully create the proper contours. This is one area that can make or break the proper 'look'. The 310 R has a very distinct shape on the cabin top, and if it looks like a shoebox, it just wont do. Why go to all this trouble and not do it right,... right?

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Old 08-21-2007, 04:41 PM
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Ted,

I did notice the opening in the side of the fuselage, I was guessing that's what it would be for. It sounds like Dick has a lot left to do with the windscreen and cowls to build, I'm sure they'll be nice. I remember spending probably way, too much time on the shape of the edge of the fuselage around my windscreen, but it was worth it in the end. Like you said, "why go to all this trouble and not do it right?" Better now than after the glass and paint. Jim
Old 09-12-2007, 10:24 PM
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working on the tip tanks, they are coming in at around .75 lbs each. Does this sound too heavy for a bird of this size? Lite ply frame w/ formers and pink foam, glassed and painted.
Old 09-13-2007, 07:27 AM
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That doesn't sound out of line. The tip tanks on my Nosen were made from 1/2 balsa , balsa spacers, etc., then glassed and painted. I'm thinking yours will be lighter than mine. I did utilize the space inside each tank for the battery and circuit board for the strobe lights in each tank tip.
Old 10-08-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default RE: Hostetler 310 Build

more picts, the cabin top is now scale, no more 'shoe-box' look!
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:15 PM
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few more.........
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default RE: Hostetler 310 Build

Its getting close to painting time.
Starting to think about what kind of paint to use. The vert. stab and rudder are glassed and primed (grey automotive type bomb can primer), but what to use for the final finish?
Any Ideas?

Ted
Old 10-14-2007, 08:29 AM
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Ted,

It's coming right along, thanks for the pics of the progress. Ah, the decision of what color or colors to use. I painted mine white as the main color and used a medium red for the trim. The manager of the airport where we made the maiden flight of my 310 owned a Cessna 310, and I basically copied it's scheme, sorta, kinda. I've also seen one that was a light tan base color with brown and burnt orange trim, it looked very nice. Myself, I would keep the base color light and probably not use a blue color for the base color, although I have seen one done up in multi blue colors with white and dark blue trim.
I think if I ever repaint mine I would go with the light tan base color and the burnt orange, brown, and maybe some light yellow trim, but I might change my mind on that too. Google up 310 and see what ya can find as far as different paint schemes, I'd bet there's a bunch of them from mild to wild. I'm sure that whatever paint scheme you decide on it will look very nice. Prep sol and a supply of tack rags are handy to have even between the primer coats. Anxious to see some more pics of the painting part of the project. Jim
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I'm leaning towards the white and maroon scheme I posted earlier, but more importantly, I need to decide what type and brand of paint to use.
Old 10-15-2007, 07:28 AM
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Ted,

That white and maroon paint scheme will look very nice. As far as the type of paint to use, you have a lot more options now than I did when I painted mine. I used an acrylic enamel with hardener for the white. All the primer I used was automotive type , lacquer base. The technology of the painting methods has really advanced, the base coat, clear coat stuff and the two part epoxies. I just painted a Cessna 337 that I converted to a military version, I used the Klass Kote products and had excellent results with it. They have a web site for info at [email protected] and their main site is http://www.klasskote.com

The fella that I chatted with had all the answers and some suggestions for my project. You call them with a specific paint number and they can mix it for you. I dealt with Diversified Solutions, LLC, a fella in Minneapolis, Mn. as I figured he was a little closer to me. His mobile phone is
651-398-6947. If he doesn't answer, leave a message and he will get back to you, he was very prompt with any calls I made to him. He can help you calculate the ammount of all the products you will need for the areas you have to cover. If I ever have to repaint my 310, this is what I will most likely use. Jim
Old 10-16-2007, 11:27 AM
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If it were mine, Id use a Base Coat Clear Coat system. And I like the Maroon and white Scheme you poster earlier.
I have these plans hanging on the wall in the back room. What a nice job you have done.
Thanks for Showing the Pix.
Old 10-16-2007, 08:14 PM
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I remember you said they where hanging on the wall a while back, and if I remember correctly, somthing about a set of OS pegasus multis.

I have a extra set of prints hanging on the wall at the office. You should hear the comments they bring! "holy cow! thats actual size?!"" is probably the most common!

If it wasnt for a chance conversation with a fellow club member who talked me into letting someone else build this one for me, my plans would probably still be rolled in the tube. My time seems to be a comodity these days, and it seems I'm getting less and less free time to build and fly (its actually quite depressing).

When you do get around to putting your plans on the table, drop me a line, theres a bunch of issues with the plans as drawn. (nothing too drastic)
Being a retired patternmaker, Dick is quite the craftsman, his bag of tricks seems bottomless, and I have learned alot from him. Although I'm no slouch at building, Dick blows me away. (I guess thats the difference between doing somthing for 45 years vrs 20 years!) I'm really glad I brought him in on this project, and he deserves the credit.

Ted
Old 10-29-2007, 10:15 AM
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Hey F2G1,
I'm curious how you plan to sheath the cabin top. Compound curves and balsa!! Do you plan to plank them?

George
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PS: Ooops, I just the pics above. Nice job, very straight building.
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Well, the cowl plug is in the mold, once its done, time to lay up the cowls.

Ted
Old 12-19-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default RE: Hostetler 310 Build

here's the cowls and tip tanks..............
she's gettin there.......
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:31 PM
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Did you make the plug for the cowl out of wood? How did you make your tip tanks? Sure looks good! RD
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Looking very good, thanks for the pics. I bet you'll know right who to go to if you ever break a cowl.
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The tip tanks are balsa/foam covered with glass cloth. They turned out really nice, and they are removable - you can barely see the parting line. The plug for the cowls is made of mohogany.

This beast is going to weigh 44 lbs, Twin g-38's w/ 3 blades - Is it enough?
Old 12-21-2007, 04:05 PM
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That's not too much heavier than mine, maybe about six pounds. My 1.20's haul mine around nicely so your G38's should get er' done.
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My Ziroli C-47 will probably be 45-50 lbs and 38's better fly it or its gonna crash! (I really hope not though) RD

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