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C-160 Transall report-FYI

Old 07-23-2003, 02:20 AM
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Got my first flight on the C-160 Transall Sunday. This is a great flying plane!
For an ARF, I couldn't be more pleased with the outcome. I bought this at the Joe Nall this year from GSP. I've read some less than positive comments about these folks here, but for an ARF twin, this is a nice kit. I used OS .25 LA's on it.
The most impressive thing that most of the guys at the field noticed was the scale looking take-off and landing. Looks really good.
Might have cheated a little with the Navy decals on a French/German plane, but hey, I was out of USAF decals at the time!
Anyway, if you're looking for a good flying twin that doesn't cost a fortune or take an eternity to build, this is worth looking into. Just be sure you have either pavement or real short grass to fly off of. The 10 wheels underneath are fairly small.
Randy
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Old 07-23-2003, 04:58 AM
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I can vouch for that Transall too, I had the pleasure of watching Randy's maiden flight on the plane and all I can say is wow, especially when he brought it in for a landing it looked just like the real ones coming down. I have not seen Randy that impressed with an airplane, he looked like a little kid in a candy store when it touched down. I can't wait to see you fly it again.
Brian
Old 07-23-2003, 05:39 AM
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Randy:

Nice.

Bill.
Old 07-27-2003, 11:39 AM
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Looks nice rryman! Glad you like it...mine still goes strong.
Old 10-08-2003, 12:27 PM
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looks good! gonna be one of my winter projects.

Hae you added any mods to it? I was wondering if it was possible to add a retracting rear door, maybe eject some guys with parachutes
Old 10-08-2003, 01:15 PM
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The outline for the door is molded into the fuse, and I guess it could be done.A lot of consideration should be given to weight in that area, as mine came out tail heavy enough to require two 500mah batery packs near the nose to balance. I'm currently working on a C-130 and have about given up on the rear ramp thing due to what it might require to balance it based on some others here. As for mods, I made none to it other than to add Navy decals to it, although it is a French/German aircraft.Would have used USAF decals, but happened to be out of them!
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Old 10-29-2003, 05:59 PM
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I just ordered a camo scheme c-160 today. I also ordered a pair of OS FS-30 four strokers. Any thoughts on props for this? I plan on using 3 blade props to slow this thing down a little and make it more scale. WHat about using a pair of 8x6 3 bladers for these engines? Thanks.
Old 10-29-2003, 09:21 PM
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I originally had 9 x 5 three blades for mine and it wouldn't taxi with them. I switched to 9 x 6 two blades and they work fine. I was disappointed, because it really looks good with the three blades and spinners. I'm running 10 x 6 three blades on my TF DC-3 and it works just like I wanted it to. Yours should fly nice with those .30's. I wanted to fly mine this past Sunday but the wind just wouldn't settle down enough.
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Steve:

You 30s should be fine with the 3 bladed 8x5 props.

Randy, you might try the same ones.

Tornado has some nice ones in black composite, they have a rough surface and take paint very well for a scale look. Just be sure to balance then after painting.

Bill.
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thanks for the info guys. WHere do I buy tornada props? I have never heard of them.
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Steve:

Tornado = Grish Brothers. Almost all the larger houses, except Tower, have them.

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bill,
i just order a couple sets of props from tornado. I picked up a pair of three blade 9-6 and three blade 10-4's What do you think of these choices???
Old 11-04-2003, 02:04 PM
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Steve:

The FS-30 engines might do well with those sizes, my thought is they are going to be loaded a bit on the heavy sidewith those props. But if you trim the tips, and leave them square they will look even more scale.

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Bill,
I called Grish Props today and changed my order. I ended up getting a pair of magnum 8-8's and a pair of voyager 8-6's , both sets in three blades. I don't want to overload the engines like you suggested.

Any thoughts on the best way to mount these four stroke os 30's. The instructions tell you how to mount a 2 stroke sideways, but I was thinking about mounting them inverted. Any advice would be appreciated. Steve
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Hi Guy's
I have a Saito 30 FS on a 3 ch sport / Fun fly plane called the Pro Trainer and I've been flying a Tornado 10X4 3-blade on it for the past 2 years (well over 100 flights) It works well and pulls good and the engine seems fine with it. Just my two cents worth.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:35 AM
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[b]Steve:

Apologies. I don't know how I lost this thread two years ago.

Inverted mounting works fine, and the later FA-30 will spin the 10x6 three blade props nicely.

If you find yout FA-30 has a hard time with the 10x6 you can pull it down and install the SAI30S35 cam to bring it up.

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Bill,
alot has changed since you lost this thread two years ago. I traded away the c160 with twin saitos in it a long time ago. I have actually recently picked up another c160 and am working on that now. This one is white and will have two thunder tiger pro 25's in it with 9x4 two blade props. Hope to have this one flying soon.
Old 10-05-2005, 08:52 AM
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[b]Steve:

I didn't think the first plane would still be unfinished, but I thought I should apologise anyway.

Why did you dump the first, and why have you gone to 2s engines on this one?

Bill.
Old 10-05-2005, 03:54 PM
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Well,
long story short is that I sold the camo plane with the four strokes because I was afraid to fly it. At the time, my skills were what I would call amateur and I didn't want to crash and ruin an expensive set of four strokes. A trade came along for a NIB saito 300 twin that I could not pass up.
Since that time, i have improved my skills significantly, all the while regretting the sale of the c160. I came across a good deal on a white c160 and purchased it. This time around, I figured I would go the economical route so that I would not be too nervous about flying a twin for the first time. Hence, the $50 engines. The other reason is that I just dropped $1500 on a Wild Hare extra with DA50, so I didn't have a whole lot of extra funds to burn on hobbies (or so my wife says).

Anyways, I will post some pics and flight report of the new C160 if I can. Winter is rapidly approaching, so I may not fly it this year.
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I just opened the box on my C-160 (had to have one after watching this thread) I'm planning on making most of the suggested changes as I go plus whatever else I deem necessary. I have already replaced the small balsa triangle stock on the rear of the firewalls with full length spruce triangle and put some triangle stock where the nacelle sides meet the wing skin. I am taking the engine comments to hart (25's are too much at full throttle) and will be using my favorite small engines, K&B 20's. with MA 9X4's I have used this combo on an 84" JU-52-3m that I designed and they were plenty. It would even maintain altitude on just the nose engine. I'll keep checking in.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:26 AM
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I'm betting the K&B 20's will be fine on the C-160. rryman and I have OS LA 25's on ours and they are plenty. I'm guesing the with the K&B's being BB engines they have just as much if not more power than the OS LA's. Good luck with your Transall this time around. Its a sweet plane to fly and really doesn't fly that different from a good hi-wing aileron trainer. Just be sure the engines are reliable , Most important factor in twin flying. and I'm sure you have read about fine tuning the last bit of RPM out of them. DON"T DO IT. I set up each engine seperatly, them detune the best to match the worst (RPM) close is good enough no need to be exact. Mine differ 300-600 rpm every fllight.
But they keep turning thats the important thing......

Let us know how it flys.


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Pete
FYI..the K&B 20's are not BB engines but I have been using these small jewels for a number of years and they have very good power I'm sure they'll be fine. If you have axcess to back issues of RCM check out my "Iron Annie" (Junkers JU52-3m) in the Nov. 1990 issue page 104.That plane would take off fine on only two of them and would fly (just) on one.

Frank
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Do remember the K&B 20 engines need castor oil.

Bill.
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Pete:
You got that right, they love it. I'm an "old timer" (50+ years flying) and I run ALL my engines with at least some castor and outside of the mess they do just great.

Frank
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I am interested in this plane as well. How do you guys set p the throttle? Is it hooked up to a Y connector. I have a 9C..and figured I can probable slave the other channel.

Any suggestions.. What is the best way to set the highend rpms to run the same.
Are LA.25 good enough to use?

Thanks Guys?

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