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VF169XO 11-06-2003 12:56 AM

Constellation's First Flight
 
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Last Friday, I had the privilege of test flying Frank Scott's new Lockheed Constellation. In my opinion (not too biased) this aircraft is magnificent!. This Connie follows Frank's last big project, the B-36 that I talked about in another thread here on RC Universe.

The Connie has a 14 ft wingspan, is powered by four OS 108FSR engines, and has fully operational Fowler flaps in addition to scale retracting gear. It weighs about 70lb. Frank made virtually everything on the airframe himself, incluing the gear and the flap mechanism.
The gear retracts in true Connie fashion, taking about 30 secionds to retract, with the nose gear retracting fully first.

After the hour of unloading it and assembling and checking out everything, we performed a runup of each engine individually, and then all four at once, while also doing a thorough radio range check. As the Connie does not have Brakes, Paul Kirby (flight engineer and backup pilot) walked the Connie down to the departure end of the runway. Phil Karafilis, a retired TWA Captain with lots of Constellation experience provided technical advice as to the takeoff flap settings and in general info about the Connie.

The test flight went well, with the Connie using about 150ft to get off the ground, and this was using about 70% power, as I was still slowly adding power when it lifted off. After takeoff, the gear was retracted, then the flaps, and we did a couple of flybys for the photos and to check out the trim and stability. The flight performance was great, with little trim change with power changes, and no roll or yaw problems. After about 5 minutes, we slowed it down a bit, lowered the gear and then lowered the flaps slowly and set up the approach. I came in a little too far out and low, but added a bit of power to make the runway as I expected it to float a bit more than it did. The landing was fine, and during the rollout, the two inboard engines quit. This looked just like when they used to taxi up to the gate with just the two outboards running. It couldn't have been cooler!!.

There were a few things that needed attention after the first flight, such as the left main gear door linkage coming loose, so we called it a successful day.

Here's some pics of the flight as provided by Phil. The first is right after takeoff, followed by a flyby, then the landing rollout. the last is just before the flight when we were checking out everything.

Stan

P.S. Edited to change the wingspan and engine type after getting the straight info instead of my memory (CRS)

William Robison 11-06-2003 01:24 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Stan:

Convey my congratulations to Frank Scott.

Very nice.

Bill.

twinman 11-06-2003 06:20 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
The word drool, does not cover this.
Congratulations............now........fess up.......how bad were the hands shaking??
Come on,,,,,,you can tell us.......we will keep it quiet.........trust me?????
Now you remember what a student feels like again.....shaking hands and knees.......TAKE A DEED BREATH!!
Fantastic,
Twinman

justrfb 11-06-2003 09:27 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Wow! What a beautiful machine. Congratulations on a successful maiden and may you have many, many more. I am going back to look at the pictures again... By the way, any video? I know you would have posted it if you have it but I had to ask [8D] ?

Tmoth4 11-06-2003 09:53 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
One word...AMAZING! Those in flight shots look absolutely real! Congratulations!

Jim

VF169XO 11-06-2003 12:19 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Hey Guys, Thanks for the compliments! I'll pass them along to Frank and the team.

We did take some video, but I've not seen it yet. I'll try to put it on here when I get a copy.

Test flying the Connie was not nearly as stressful as the B-36, but yes, the antenna was shaking a bit!

Stan

Ozelot 11-06-2003 12:49 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Awesome! Absolutely stunning...

Jens

rcwacogeorge 11-06-2003 02:12 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Oh Man! That's just beautiful!!! and perfect timing for inspiration to start the Don Smith Constellation Precision cut kit that I just received 2 days ago! Can't wait to see the video!!! Was there much pitch change with flap and landing gear retraction?

VF169XO 11-06-2003 02:40 PM

RE: Constellation's Pitch change w/flaps
 
In answer to your questions, the gear didn't seem to cause any pitch change, and the flaps pitched the Connie nose down a bit on deployment. It was a bit more sensitive to pitch change with airspeed changes, with it pitching up a bit as speed increased. It was very neutral to power changes in regard to pitch change. It was only a couple of clicks of trim to offset the pitching in any case. Frank built in the full size incidences to be faithful to the design, but taking a degree of positive off of the wing should reduce this trait. Again, it was nothing to worry about, a very easy airplane to fly.

Stan

Strykaas 11-06-2003 04:48 PM

RE: Constellation's Pitch change w/flaps
 
Stunning ! Congrats [sm=thumbup.gif] !

Didn't u have any problem with these .91FX ? Do u use the stock remote needle valves ? Any pump ?

Thx

VF169XO 11-06-2003 05:08 PM

RE: Constellation's OS91FX Engines
 
EDIT: Engines are OS 108 FSRs

The OS 91FX's are stock, and with the rear needle valves. Ther are no pumps, as the tanks are in the nacelles. I believe that they are 16oz, but could be 20oz. I'll have to ask. We do have glow heat on all four, and Frank set up a three position switch on each nacelle that allows the heat On at all times, only at idle, or Off

All four engines had some bench time, and then into the Connie. All four run very well. We will have to adjust the idle mixtures and maybe the low trottle positions, as they don't all run the same at low throttle, as was evident when the two inboards quit on touchdown on the first flight.

Stan

Mike James 11-06-2003 05:35 PM

RE: Constellation's OS91FX Engines
 
Great work. You've got a beauty there. The flight shots look great too. Congratulations.

The Connie was the first plane I flew on, as a young boy, and so I've got a soft spot for that one. Nothing like looking out the window at night, and seeing those flames shooting out of the engines, too!

Thanks for posting the photos.

ps2727 11-07-2003 01:06 AM

RE: Constellation's OS91FX Engines
 
Congrats! Magnificent!

Edwin 11-07-2003 10:10 AM

RE: Constellation's OS91FX Engines
 
FYI- In Topeka Kansas there is a small Air Combat Museum that has a military connie that is open. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it said it was an AC-121. Anyway, it was great crawling around inside that thing and getting up close to it. Their second hanger is actually a work in progress shop. They even had a full scale BF109 made out of fiberglass that was a movie prop.
Edwin

ramcfarland 11-08-2003 11:50 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Simply fantastic-I run an O.S.91FX in an older pattern aircraft and have found the 91FX's performance Idle,mid.and top end to be absolutely reliable (as long as you ensure your muffler pressure line(s) are connected before flight......... Could you tell us a little about the construction process and FINISH for your magnificent Lockheed Constellation-
TKS,
Richard

Bob Paris 11-08-2003 05:05 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Stunning and way cool.

Soft and gentle landings always,
Bobby of Maui

mucksmear 11-08-2003 07:03 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Spectacular!!! Well done!
-E

VF169XO 11-09-2003 12:22 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Richard,

The Connie was lofted up from three view and Frank drew his own structural plans. The construction is traditional, formers of plywood and balsa, with planking on the fuselage, ribs and sheeting for the tail and wings. There is a lot of plywood for the LG mounts, main spar, nacelles, and firewalls. I believe that the Connie is glassed with .75oz cloth. I do not know what the finish color paint type is.

In regard to OS, In my experience, the only bad OS has the wrong fuel in it or a bad glowplug. As I mentioned in my edit of the lead thread, the engines are 108FSRs instead of the 91FX's. I wonder if the 91FX would have the edge on power, being a later design?.

Stan

Strykaas 11-09-2003 06:55 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
I believe that attempting to put 4 OS91fx on the same airplane is a real challenge [:@][:'(].

rc12 11-30-2003 07:58 PM

RE: Constellation's OS91FX Engines
 
How did you get it past AMA ,70 pounds?

I have been to that musem, it is great!

c-130RCpilot 01-05-2004 05:18 PM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
Stan:

You mentioned a Phil Karafilis in the post you made concerning the Constellation model. Do you know if this is the same Phil Karafilis who had a large T-28 model that was pictured in a RC magazine perhaps 10 or so years ago? I have often wanted to find out more about that model.

Eric
[email protected]

VF169XO 01-05-2004 05:36 PM

RE: Constellation's Weight
 
Actually, the 'Official Ramp Weight' is 69 pounds according to Frank Scott. I was in error (guessing).

I don't know whether he weighed the whole aircraft, or weighed each sub-assembly and added them for the total.

Stan

Flak 01-05-2004 10:46 PM

RE: Constellation's Weight
 
I live in the flight path of New Century Air Center outside of Olathe, KS., (this is the old Olathe Naval Air Station). I see the real Connie flying around my house quite often, as the Kansas City dowtown pattern is often congested, so the boys fly Connie at New Century for VIP tours and touch and go practice. I watched her do a pass at 50 feet off the deck once. What a sight! Your Connie looks very realistic. Beautiful job!
"Keep 'Em Flying!"
Flak

Mr_Scale 01-10-2004 08:56 AM

RE: Constellation's Weight
 
It just doesn't get any better than that...CONGRATULATIONS!!!

c-130RCpilot 01-10-2004 09:29 AM

RE: Constellation's First Flight
 
TO VF169XO


ORIGINAL: c-130RCpilot

VF169XO:

You mentioned a Phil Karafilis in the post you made concerning the Constellation model. Do you know if this is the same Phil Karafilis who had a large T-28 model that was pictured in a RC magazine perhaps 10 or so years ago? I have often wanted to find out more about that model.

Eric
[email protected]


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