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heli001 11-25-2003 09:04 AM

WIG (Wing in Ground Effect)
 
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Here is a pretty interesting site if you are interested in planes that fly in ground effect:

http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php

Does anyone have a 3 view of the Ekranoplan.....?

MajorTomski 11-26-2003 12:58 PM

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Do a google for ekranoplan and you will hit several good sites. And Revell of Germany markets a plastic model with decent three views.

heli001 11-26-2003 01:01 PM

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Major,

I did the search thing and didn't come up with any 3 views....I certainly must have missed something.........[X(]

bedlamite 12-19-2003 10:28 AM

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Forget Google, go to [link=http://www.copernic.com/en/index.html]Copernic[/link] and download their Agent. It's the best search software I've ever seen.

For a 3-view, you bay have to buy [link=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1857801466/104-2914084-6623151?v=glance]Russia's Ekranoplans: The Caspian Sea Monster and Other Wig Craft[/link]

Also check out [link=http://www.du-groundeffect.com/]Designs Unlimited[/link] They have a couple R/C WIG's in either Kit or plans that look like they've got it figured out.

I'm in the preliminary stages of building a WIG based on the [link=http://www.svensons.com/boat/?p=HydroPlanes/minimax]Minimax[/link]
Gotta do something with that 7.5HP Mercury sitting in the garage. :D

Deadeye 12-19-2003 10:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: bedlamite

Forget Google, go to [link=http://www.copernic.com/en/index.html]Copernic[/link] and download their Agent. It's the best search software I've ever seen.

Don't use Copernic. It is spyware. If it only gobbles your bandwidth, you are lucky. I have seen it crash several of my client's computers. Nothing is free on the internet. You will pay for it eventually. Stick with Google.

Randy Rossmiller
Computer Technician

Dan Taylor 12-20-2003 01:29 AM

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what is tis commie crap
us true americans know that we invwnted ground efect
the rest is crap

Cactus. 12-20-2003 06:40 AM

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the yanks indeed started the WIG ball, but only the Ruskies did anything about it propperly and now you lot are buying their tech to catch up :)
Copernics fine, i got it, i've got spyware software, nothing showing. never crashed my pc.

bedlamite 12-20-2003 06:48 AM

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If it only gobbles your bandwidth, you are lucky. I have seen it crash several of my client's computers.
It only "gobbles your bandwidth" when you happen to be searcing 17 different engines at the same time :eek:, I live far enough out in the sticks that dial up is the only option and I don't have a problem, IE is much worse at wasting bandwidth. If you are having a problem with computers crashing, I suggest you look elsewhere, Copernic isn't the problem. I've seen it run fine on everything from 98 to XP for years. Yeah, it's spyware, but do you really think Google doesn't keep track of what you search for?

(/thread drift)

Some specs on the Russian Ekranoplans: http://www.damp.tottori-u.ac.jp/Lab5/WISE/CHDBlist.html


us true americans know that we invwnted ground efect
Yep. It took the Wright brothers about 6 years to break out of ground effect.

heli001 12-20-2003 08:30 AM

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Well,

After a bunch of research, I have decided to produce a set of AutoCAD Plans plans for the Flightship FS8.

Preliminary span will be 51 inches and 57 inches in length. Built up fuse, foam sheeted removable wings........looks like a good candidate for electric and LiPo's..........more to come.

turtletheyertle 12-21-2003 10:12 PM

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http://outriderboats.com/ they totally blend the lines between everything, a ski in the front, surface piercing prop, and they do use the WIG effect im pretty sure

Hover Dude 12-22-2003 02:49 AM

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this whole wig thing is cool and i think i will try one. my plans right now are for it to be about 40 inches long with the wings being about 24 inches long and 12 inches wide. i plan to run it on 4 speed 480 moters. as soon as i get the plan drawn up i will post it.

Elflover 12-23-2003 12:37 AM

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Great site and wonderful craft, but they are a bit useless in replying to questions. www.flightship.net. I want one.

heli001 12-23-2003 09:17 AM

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Elf,

I think the company is in a transition, there was some financial trouble a while back and it is/was being bought out by a new firm. The price for this model (FS-8)is about 800K...........:)

I have increased the span to 60 inches for the plan.

heli001 12-27-2003 07:25 PM

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Flightship Update,

Plans should be available around January 1st......Span 60 inches, length 68-1/2...power electric w/ LiPo's.....

Teaser:

Hover Dude 12-30-2003 05:13 AM

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here is a what my WIG should look like

Hover Dude 12-30-2003 05:15 AM

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what do you guys think about it?

Ekranoplan Man 03-13-2004 02:37 AM

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Have you looked at the WhizzyWig model? see http://www.home-taylor.freeserve.co....lan%20man.html

Hover Dude 03-17-2004 02:22 PM

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Ekranoplan man i have built one WIG and its was not very succesfull. i am in the process of designing a second one. it will be 1400mm long wing chord 0f 1000mm and wing span of 300mm. powered by 4 480 motors running on 7 cell each. do you have any tips from things you have experienced in your models. also what is the best way to wire the battery esc and motors in a series parralell or a mixture of both. (i have not yet bought a battery pack). help from anyone is appriciated as well
Hover Dude

bigchap 03-23-2004 10:57 AM

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I enjoy the diversity of styles and formats in our hobby but ground-effect,hmmmm,not a plane,not a boat,just a silly idea going nowhere if you ask me!don't all start rubbishing me please it's just my opinion.if it was a good idea the u.s. would have taken it further,just as they did when they stole english technology to break the sound barrier!oops,now i am going to get it for that one!

Cactus. 03-23-2004 01:02 PM

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esp with me online :p
M-52 all the way and the Swallow, first JET PLANE to break Mach 1 officially. not just a bloke in a rocket :p

bigchap 03-23-2004 01:35 PM

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calm down phillybaby,i know the english planes were MILES better.

Cactus. 03-23-2004 01:46 PM

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;)
i think WIG has as much potential as hovercraft ( in water at least ), only they are faster but only really good on calmish water. can't cross the Atlantic on one.
They would make perfect 2 man pleasure craft for island hopping or cruising the med.
The reason the US didn't take the idea further is very simple, they are surrounded by BIG seas with BIG waves that would cause trouble to WIGS, the Sea Monster was tested on the Caspian sea which is really just a huge lake.
I don't know where they intended it's use but it was more of a fast attack ship for use on wet boats in localish waters than to cross over to the US and launch anything. probably a self defense weapon for ships getting close to their shores, it could rush out and get to them before they got to close to home.
I'd like a RC WIG but I'd be an alone man toy :(
my Diamond Dust in the right wind will sit in ground effect 4-5" up for the length of the field when i get it right, good enough for me.

Hover Dude 03-23-2004 02:16 PM

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ground effect is the way to go:D phillybaby is your diamond dust a plane or a wig. i am in the process of building a wig ave high expectaions of it . if you are interested you could go to http://www.se-technology.com/wig/index.php

Cactus. 03-23-2004 05:31 PM

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you might still find my wig page on my site if that parts still up.
my dust is a 150mph delta.
your wig design looks ok, but you might want that tail higher so it's right out of ground effect it's self.

jettstarblue 03-25-2004 07:57 AM

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WIG's were originally designed to carry huge amounts of weight at a reltively high speeds not so much as a weapon of war. Think big inland lakes and protected sea areas where the waves aren't too big.

Jetts


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