W37 Cepeda

It is expensive, but this is way I did it.

You shop it around in parts.

I got the metal blade holders 1st, then some of bell cranks, then the head, etc etc.

my total price was less then 100 bucks. If you were to buy it all out , it would be around 30-40 bucks more.

Good luck in putting your w37 back together.

Also, it seems that maybe your main blades were on to tight.. if you leave your blades a bit loose (not to loose ofcourse),
when it hits the boom it will give way and reduce the amount of damage. Beleive me I know.. you should see my aluminum boom
it almost looks like yours.

EL Mecano

NICE W37, very nice indeed.
Was it hard for you to adjust it after completetion?
and how much did you spend? does it really fly better? Is it more heavier?

ellcheepo

W37

I like your buying method to save price but it just takes to long for me as I want it now now now, very impatient.

I would be intested in how many amps you are pulling from your align motor as I tested my Walkera 180L yesterday and it was pulling 13amps at full throttle with maximum pitch, as I am using a diffrent transmitter to the walkera, due to wanting to use my TX that I use for my planes and other stuff it means I get more functionality from it so I can have different pitch curves on switches and other inverse functions. I am intrested as at 13amps the motor is getting hot, so would be intested to see what you are pulling and what pinon gear your using.

EL Mecano

Hey , settle down. What is wrong with you? Why are you calling racissim in this forum?
You don't have the right to call anyone that. We can buy our parts where ever. And it's
a well known fact that certain parts are better, even if they do come from the same factory or not
or different materials. That does not give you the right to call people racist cause we favor other
things. That's the problem with socialism. If it's not your way, then everyone else is wrong.

Moderator, ban this guy.

W37 Cepeda

I'm using 11T pinion from Align and the Align 430L motor. I can't tell how much AC current the motor is pulling, hence I don't have a probe for that, but I can tell you is how much DC current I'm pulling from the batteries. I will do this later when I get home. With this motor after 15minutes of flight, it gets very warm, but no to the point were it can burn your fingers.

The 180L motor, is really not so good motor. It gets very hot! You could not touch it. I had one, and it did not last very long, and if you check yours right know, it suppose to spin freely with no power allied. I bet it does not. If it does, well I must of gotten a bad one. Cause after a couple of flights, the motor would not spin freely. It felt like a worn out brushed motor. Then one day it started to smoke! It look really cool! thought! I was hovering, the smoke started to come out, and it show the wind pattern below the blades! hehe nice... then It lost power and shorted out, almost melted the frame were it was being held. I would never buy a Walkera motor..specially a 180L.

If this would of happened with an brand new Align motor, they would of been repsonsible for it and the damaged parts.
This is the warrantee I got from a local Align dealer, They inspect the way you hooked it up, and come to a determination, and if in fact the motor was the originating problem, they would of replaced all the damaged parts.

Sometimes it's better to pay the extra 20 bucks for a piece of technology in which a company will stand behind. With Walkera? you would be lucky if you got it replaced. And if you did, you would of been waiting for ever.. Just like I am, I'm still waiting for it to be replaced. They said it was the ESC fault. Hello? I was using the recommended Walkera ESC, I spend a week argueing with them and the dealer pointing out this fact and still.. no replacement.

hence the reason why, cheap will always be cheap. And yes, unfortunately , for poeple starting this new hobby, Walkera
offers a very good solution to satisfy are curiosity, without spending enormous amounts of cash. things change though when your start replacing parts and upgrading.

W37 Cepeda

It was the same method In the adjustement of the original configuration, adjust the links length for tracking
and pitch.

I spent around 90 bucks in total..after a period of time...and it does fly better.

Yes, it wieghts a tad heavier...but its more precise in flying.

Hope this helps.



[quote]ORIGINAL: EL Mecano

NICE W37, very nice indeed.
Was it hard for you to adjust it after completetion?
and how much did you spend? does it really fly better? Is it more heavier?

Heliwannabe

Excellent point W37 and one I had never thought of. My blades were very loose when I crashed and I have since tightened them. I will be making them loose again tonight. The machine was flying perfectly and had no reason to change them. Thanks for your input.

Jim

Heliwannabe

Jon I don't disagree with your comments on price vs quality hence the term "you get what you pay for". It's true no matter where they are manufactured.
I'll not entertain the raciest comments. We are all here to better machines and get the most bang for our buck and I find this thread incredibly valuable.
Jim

armycopter

I second that

Allstar DF37

Soneebee, I really like the Elf Hobby setup. I have been out of the R\C scene for some time so Brushless and Lipo batteries are completely new to me. All I can say is that this little motor seems to put out a lot of power for its size. I dont know how many amps it pulls. After a flight the motor is barely warm to the touch, the battery (3E 2200mah 12c lipo with 3E SmartPlus charger) is way hotter. The ESC is programmable but have no idea how, I would like it to cut power sooner as it lets the battery get too low. I debated a 430lf motor and CC 35amp ESC, or a Astro Flight with Cobalt magnets, but the price was right on the package from EHirobo, even though the Align is way better in reviews I have read.

W37 Cepeda, Wow you did really good shopping around on those parts. I did a quick price check and it came to over $200, but less than $100 you get props on that. I had the blades set really loose. I think allowing the blades to swing back and forth too easily and smack when it landed. I was experimenting both ways and this was the second time they hit the boom. Your Copter is nice I like it. I was conteplating this head http://cgi.ebay.com/All-Aluminum-CNC...QQcmdZViewItem, but wasnt sure if I could fit it.

Heliwannbe, I got the training gear from Xheli for like 6.99 where I bought my Heli. They are really durable and light. I will be leaving them on for some time as Cows fly better than me. I like to mountain bike too.

johnchu, where did you come up this racist stuff, thats jumping the gun a lot. That post is borderline bannable in my opinion. In other forums behavior like that is not tolerated and should not be here. Just calm down so we can have a happy and informative thread here, because that is the point of posting here.

Other than that I am trying to get aerofly sim program so next time a wall and lawnchair jump in front of me my reaction will be more natural. Instead of just landing out of panic. I noticed everyone here has relocated their tail servo, that was really poor design in the first place and a must to mod it. I found a good way to mount the battery if you can see in the pic there are two carbon fiber tubes that I zip tied to the frame. The double sided sticky tape is there only to prevent the tubles from damaging the lipo. I like it like that so I can charge the battery from the side without removing the canopy even.

soneebee

Allstar DF37,

I have made the manual for the ESC and it can be programmed, just PM me you email addy so i can send it to you.. or you can get it from ehirobo.com download section.. They have uploaded the manual that I sent them..

thanks for the review of the motor... i'll be giving feedback on the manufaacturer on this....

happy flying....

mcdaniel

HI there
Well, ALLSTAR DF37 sorry for damaged of you heli, I have same machine as yours (finally somebody with ELF HOBBY system and DF#37) with same motor,ESC and batt, but no matter how I programming the ESC, the motor runs very hot(like my stock WK motor), did you have any experience about this??.DId you remenber any adjustment made to yours settings???(TX) it seen that the motor was running with factory default settings on it, since you have no idea how to programming the ESC.Ofcourse I thing that this motor is factory pre-programming with this configuration.
Thanks bro
Any help?.

Heliwannabe

Well this mountain bike a Honda Gold Wing and at 800+ pounds is slightly heavier than my pedal mountain bike although it does fine in the mountins as long as you are on good pavement he he.

Thanks for the tip and I found that websight and ordered the training gear as well as a few other spare parts. The sticks were doing fine until one of them snapped and hit the main rotor and caused a pretty big dig on one of the blades. I replaced it as a precaution.

I have been using the same ESC and outrunner brushless motor combo as army with a 2100 12c lipo and really like it. The motor is just warm to the touch and the lipo is barely warm after more than 12 minutes at hover power. I am using a 11t gear and think I just got lucky and hit it right on with my settings. Tons of power.

My heli is working perfectly right now but I think I will just cool it until I get the proper training gear.

Yes move the rudder servo. I wonder why they went with the extra linkage to put it where they did.

armycopter

Hey Jim, I'm loving my ESC motor combo too! You're right, I think we just got lucky with that one. Everything is running cool since I went back to my original pinion.

Allstar DF37

mcdaniel MyElf combo runs cool, it is all factory settings. Maybe you have friction somewhere. Check the pinion gear for clearance to the main gear if it is too tight, it should have a little play in between. I run my tail belt loose and oil all the bearings maybe that will help. A few posts ago Soneebee (Thanks Soneebee)posted how to program the ESC from Ehirobo, including how to reset it to factory settings.

ellcheepo

Allstart,

I would check your belt as if you are running it to loose you will be losing a lot of the power to the tail rotor which in turn will make the yaw control less responsive than what it should be.

ellcheepo

Guys need some help, I am trying to find a pinion gear set for my new BL outrunner it needs the same size as the Align 430L 3.17mm shaft can anyone help me on that one

W37 Cepeda

Pinion gear set 11t,12t,13y from Align
its around 6.00 us dollars.

soneebee

does it also come in 11,12,13T sizes? the one i got is 11T,13T,15T for 3.17mm and 9T,10T,11T for the 2.3mm size..

W37 Cepeda

I have not seen a kit that has the 12t size, at least from align.

That was a typo Error. The kit has 11T,13T,15T , as you indicated,at 3.17mm, which fits the 430L motor.

soneebee

thats okay.. i was thinking if they came out with that kind of pack.. that would have been great.. hard to find a 12T pinion for the 3.17

soneebee

hey cepeda.. what happened to your review of the 60C? how was is during your test?

mcdaniel

HI there
Well its time to move this tail servo to the tail boom
Anybody can tell me the ALIGN part# of the tail boom (2) with servo mount, also with the part # of the vertical and horizontal fins thats fit. I will upgrade soon. I see many store with several model of it???.I was searching in W37 post but I dont see.
Army report one store but there not accept a paypal as payment method.
Thanks to ALL.

W37 Cepeda

I still have 60C here with me, as a matter of fact, I have done some minor mods to it. I will have the pictures soon, but my camera has a problem with the usb port, I had to send it back. I should have it by Monday next week. I will show my Df37 and df60c side by side. Maybe have some flight hover videos too. right know the 60c is not flight worthy, hence some of the metal parts have loose ball linkages screws, that won't tighten, cause the aluminum material in the hole threads have been damaged due to overtighten probably by the seller. Im waiting on some thread locking adhesive, if not, I'm going to have to replace that upper crank arm entirely, or tap in a new hole.

I will have it ready soon for another flight test.. and hopefully this time it perform as expected.

W37 Cepeda

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