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Old 03-25-2006, 02:28 PM
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No wheel Trousers, but if everyone one is going to give me gas about it I guess I'll have to put them on, but my CG is perfect.[&o]
Old 03-25-2006, 02:41 PM
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I will bet you $5.00 it wont change with the pants on...
Old 03-25-2006, 05:04 PM
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go ahead jeff put em on
Old 03-25-2006, 06:51 PM
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Man, the things I do for you guys.[8D]
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Old 03-25-2006, 07:55 PM
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haha awsome jeff did yours come with white wheel pants mine were red........... you gonna go out tomorrow theyre saying 10-20 mph winds
Old 03-25-2006, 08:00 PM
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I had a spare set of white ones because I never use them, but the Cap looks good with them. Yes I will be there at nine or 10.
Old 03-25-2006, 08:08 PM
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i better get to bed soon lol i am in the middle of hinging my edge
Old 03-26-2006, 05:52 PM
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well i seen jeffs cap fly today and lemme just say 1 thing about that.......................Awsome............... now if my da50 would get here already ah tuesday
Old 03-26-2006, 06:01 PM
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3 flights today, maiden took 2 clicks down and 2 right, had to deal with cross wind all day and the Cap handled it like no other plane I've flown before. Harriers are solid no wing rock inverted harriers are a piece of cake. Snaps, [sm=confused.gif] did someone say Caps are bad for snapping, not the Wildhare Cap. The 85â€Cap is a keeper. Another great plane Tom! [sm=thumbup.gif]
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Old 03-26-2006, 06:08 PM
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I told you so!

They fly so steady and solid, does all the 3d stuff with nary a complaint, pretty much a flawless flight envelope.

Jood job Jeff, thanks.

TF
Old 03-26-2006, 07:18 PM
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So Tom do you like flying the Cap better, or the new Extra thats coming?
Old 03-26-2006, 09:33 PM
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Loaded question.
Old 03-26-2006, 10:04 PM
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Loaded Question I would like the hear the answer to..... lol!!
Old 03-26-2006, 11:19 PM
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Default RE: 85" cap 232

To be honest, and at the risk of hurting sales of the newer planes, I prefer the Cap right now. But I have not flown the new Extra with all the changes done.

We have modified the tail group on the Extra by moving the h-stabs forward and pulling the elevators in so they are tucked against the fuse sides like a Cap. This should lend a lot more stability and control to the plane. I'm shooting for a plane that can do pattern AND 3d without flaws.

They all fly good, I learn more with each effort.

TF
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Tom, to a novice does the Cap sacrifice precision? I still want good 3D but am starting to learn Imac and working on flying more precise. Will the Cap still deliver in this area?

Thanks
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i know i am not tom and am in no way a toc competetor however i am building one and a friend at the field flew his today and all i have to sa is wow this plane tracks so well i am going to be using this as my imac bird it is really something
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Tom, to a novice does the Cap sacrifice precision? I still want good 3D but am starting to learn Imac and working on flying more precise. Will the Cap still deliver in this area?

Thanks
Old 03-27-2006, 09:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: rcflyer96

Tom, to a novice does the Cap sacrifice precision? I still want good 3D but am starting to learn Imac and working on flying more precise. Will the Cap still deliver in this area?

Thanks
I always thought that the Cap, because of its low wing/high stab/high thrust line layout, would be a real bear to do any precision with.

But my experience so far is that it's hardly different from our Extras, especially the 300LX, and it flies IMAC stuff just fine. I am no pro, I struggle like everyone else, but I would not hesitate to use the Cap in IMAC.

For IMAC you primarily want a plane that doesn't do stuff on its own, you want it to do what you tell it and nothing else. Flying the patterns is hard enough without having to fight with the airplane.

For example when you pull to a vertical line you want it to go straight up. You don't want it to fall off in any direction, you don't want to have to steer it, it should hold the line you established. No plane is perfect and there is wind to account for, but the less the plane does wrong the easier your job will be.

The Wild Hare Cap is as true as anything I've flown, it pretty much just does what you ask without a lot of imrovisation.

TF
Old 03-27-2006, 04:09 PM
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Default RE: 85" cap 232

Thanks Alot Tom, one last quick question, does the 91" fly much better? I am thinking of selling my DA50 and getting either the ZDZ80 or 3W80 to put into the 91". How does it balance with these engines, and is it worth going for the extra 6" ?

Thanks.
Old 03-27-2006, 04:26 PM
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Default RE: 85" cap 232

Well it's more than just longer wings. The chord is longer for more wing area (1520 vs. 1350), the 91" wings are sheeted foam which is what makes it a little heavier but a lot stronger. Also the wing tube is located farther back in the wing so the balance point is farther forward, this makes it balance better with a heavier engine. It also comes with a CF wing tube to handle the heavier loads.

I'd say either engine will be a real rocket, everything you do involving throttle will be fast and furious.

There's not any real difference in the way it flies as long as it's balanced the same as you would balance the 85" version.

TF
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tom,
what size servo arms are used on elevator servos???
Old 03-27-2006, 09:35 PM
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I asked this a while back and it seemed like most people prefered the 1.25"
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ah thanks i wasnt getting alot of throw with down elevator this may be because i was using 1.5
Old 03-27-2006, 10:13 PM
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wouldn't that give you more throw???
Old 03-27-2006, 10:14 PM
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well yeahbut my links are hitting bottom of the stab let me get a pic up
Old 03-27-2006, 10:19 PM
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here tell me what i am doing wrong it my first time using these kind of horns
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