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discusmike 10-26-2005 03:33 PM

RE: Elevator problems on my edge 540
 
Wanted to test my plane with the new equalizer today to see if there is better performance but the damn wind is gusting up to 30mph[:o]hopefully tomorrow will turn out better,i'll keep you all posted.

rctom 10-26-2005 07:09 PM

RE: Elevator problems on my edge 540
 
Lipo's with regulators keep the voltage up at a consistent 6v, which makes the servos more consistent. Whether you can actually see or feel this is anybody's guess.

I discovered a pretty good way of securing the hatch. Instead of the 4-40 screws and blind nuts, drill through the fuse and the hold-downs with a 3/16" drill. Then remove the hatch and tap the hold down with a 1/4-20 tap. Harden the threads with thin CA. Drill the fuse out to 1/4".

Now you can use nylon screws to hold the hatch down. No blind nuts to fall out and much less prone to vibration.

For a final security measure put a piece of tape over the screw.

TF

Tired Old Man 10-26-2005 09:04 PM

RE: Elevator problems on my edge 540
 
Tom,

Just to make a point about voltages and servos, along with seeing the difference I'd like to add the following. It competely presumes that the euipment used is above the minimum required to perform the task.

If you take three planes that are equal in all aspects except the servos we will have a strting point. Using the fastest, metal gear analog servo that's available for regular r/c use at 4.8 volts, perfrom a 4 point roll as quickly as you can while still making positive stops. Watch the way the plane rolls. It will do the job, but it will be kinda "lazy" in the way it gets to each point. Increase the voltage to 6 volts on the same servo and you will see a marginal improvement in the roll performance and speed.

Now take the next plane and equip it with high quality digital servos for the ailerons and supply them at 4.8 volts and perform the same roll set. You will note an immediate improvement is the speed, accuracy, and crispness of the rolls. Increasing the voltage to 6 volts brings you to the point where those same rolls are starting to look very similar, if not exactly, as those performed by the "super stars" with their super planes. Provided of course, that the rolls were performed with the correct control inputs.

I've personally experimented in this area and found the above to be true 100% of the time. It gets even better with dual aileron servos in larger planes. With the right equipment, being provided an adaquate amount of voltage, you can indeed "feel the difference"

In any case, a servo that can handle 6 volts but is only provided 4.8 volts will under perform compared to the same servo provided 6 volts. Now if there is enough amperage and battery capacity to provide constant voltage to all the servos at the same time without a significant drop in voltage things get better still. That's where a lot of people fall down. They will have 6 volts, true, but the battery capacities will be too low in availble amps to maintain a constant current flow to all the servos when they are all working hard simultaneously. That's where the higher capacity batteries with their regulators come into their own.

As to the question regarding the superiority of li-ons... any battery with the correct voltage and amperage can do the same job as a different battery of similar voltage and capacity. The differences come into play with the weight of a battery and the duration that those batteries can supply the needed voltage. By themselves, li-ons are not that big a deal. But combine them, or better still, li-polys with their higher discharge capabilities, with other weight saving measures and it becomes worthwhile.

discusmike 10-27-2005 04:58 PM

RE: Elevator problems on my edge 540
 
Thanks for the battery info guys,i finally got to fly my edge today with the equalizer installed.There was a tremendous differance in flight when using the elevator,its made this plane much easier to handle,i hope tomorrow will be even nicer so i can fly again.Thanks.:)

Josey Wales 10-27-2005 05:11 PM

RE: Elevator problems on my edge 540
 
Thats good to know! I just put one in myself..


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