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Old 07-19-2011, 05:03 AM
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Hey guys,

I wanted to get some opinions from personal experience of the best 3D 30% aircraft available today. I currently fly a 30% Pilot Extra 260 and have never been completely happy with it. It never seems to have enough elevator and it wing-rocks a lot with full deflection. I did change the elevator to have counter-balancers and it helped but still not satisfied.

From what I've seem Extreme Flight and 3D hobby are producing some very nice airplanes. I really like the Extreme Flight Edge 540 and 3D Hobby Shop's Extra.

Just wanted to get some thoughts.
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Mike
Old 07-19-2011, 06:27 AM
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I really like the Peakmodel Yak 54...it is light, flies well, good price and it has held up to a pretty good beating so far(20 Gallons).

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Extreme Flight and 3D hobby birds are running the show at present.... own both of those companies and I am very pleased with the Yak and Slick both are on DA 60.......
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I forgot about peak models. Does anyone know how they fly in relation to 3DHobby and Extreme Flight?
Old 07-19-2011, 02:54 PM
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Default RE: Best 3D 30% Aircraft???

Peak models planes are mostly produced in the two most prolific factories and as such they are very close to many of the other common brands. The Yak mentioned is a nice flyer, perhaps not quite as good as the Extreme flight but decent enough. (I don't have any personal experience with the 3DHS product so can't commetn on those).

I don't have personal experience withe the pilot RC plane you are currently flying but you mention it doesn't seem to have enough elevator and it wing rocks badly - have you tried reducing what elevator you have got a little to see what happens? without putting in too many long boring details for you, I know in a couple of my birds that too much elevator will make the plane seem "spongy" and make the wings rock like crazy - reducing the elevator throw a little transformed them quite a bit.

Now let the aerodynamics discussions commence
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AussieSteve,

All good info, I will give it a shot on reducing the elevator throw. As for Peak Models I might give the YAK-54 a try. For the money and free shipping you cannot beat it. I also like how Peak has improved their models over the course of time . The current Yak is V3 and has some very good reviews. I was trying to figure out what other brands the manufacture for Peak produces? The build and layout of Peak models looks a lot like my Pilot Aircraft.

Thanks again,
Mike
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Anyone know how the Peak Model's Extra 330 flys?
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I fly a 30% Peak Model Edge 540T for the past 2 years on a DLE-55. Love it, and it's light at around 14.75lbs AUW, 88.5"ws, 85" long. I changed out the gear to a solid single CF gear mounted on the bottom of the fuse, but other than that it's been great and survived a few dead sticks. Only thing I don't like about it is that once in awhile it will start to drop a wing with quick 50* elevator deflection. I wouldn't hessitate to buy another though.

With that being said, I own a smaller Extreme Flight Edge 540T and have seen many 3DHS planes. IMHO they're the best of the best from those two companies. If you can afford it, I'd go with one of them. You'll be guaranteed a great flying, well tested and redesigned airframe.
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all i have to say is the rule...


you get what you pay for peak 3DHS extream flight pilot aeroworks might be the only one that the rule doesn't apply for
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Default RE: Best 3D 30% Aircraft???

Eganwp,

I see your running Power HD 9150's in your edge. How have they worked out for you?

All good info guys keep it coming!

Anyone flying the Peak Models Extra 330??
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well Mike pull the trigger u know what u want
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Krazyzc,

I'm almost there, Peak has some pretty nice planes to choose from

Mike
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I am also using the HD 9150's on my Yak. So far they are great! Good power and centering along with good speed. I would recomend them.

Zach
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Well guys I order the Peak Models Extra 330L with a DLE & can. You can't beat the price and with free shipping it was a no brainer. I'm not sure how long it will take to get here in the states but I'm not really in a rush.


http://www.peakmodel.com/index.php?m...EXTRA330l+50cc
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congrats Mike I am sure you will be very happy with your set-up.
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Krayzc,
Thanks man, it should be a good flyer looking forward to receiving it.
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Default RE: Best 3D 30% Aircraft???

Im in the same boat. Searching for that ultimate 30% airframe.


I originally was set on the EDGE 540... But now I’m not sure. I don’t have any experience flying an Edge, just the little bit of time on a SIM. Obviously I know these are all great 3D airframes. My issue with the Edge in comparison to a YAK is wing rock. It seems to me that a YAK is more stable in super high alpha harrier type flight which is what I’m looking for but I already have a YAK.

From what I read, the Edge is very stable and great for IMAC and 3d... But maybe more towards IMAC??

What about an EXTRA?

If you have some opinions.... I would greatly appreciate it.

I would love to get some feedback. Keep in mind I am going to put the DA60 in this puppy, so the power will be there. I would say high alpha stability is what I am looking for the most.....


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bells what are you needs in this next air frame?
Old 08-12-2011, 05:46 AM
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I would say my needs are all out 3d performance. Keep in mind I don't fly like a lot of these guys. I am good flier considering the amount of time I have been flying (for my age etc). I am not afraid to seriously push my limits, sometimes too much. I am at that point where I am doing a lot of experimenting, so "things happen". But I really know how to dial it down especially considering the investment I'll be making.

High Alpha stability I would say is my biggest desire. Would you agree that a YAK54 is one of the best in this category?? Keep in mind, Id rather not get another YAK, although the ExtremeFlight Yak is looking better and better.

Im worried that Aeroworks frames, although some of the BEST constructed and all the pluses (ringed cowl, prehinged, pipe ready)...it seems to me they run on the heavy side?? (anyone? anyone?)

Anyway... Im buying some small electrics to do all my "playing" until the skills are rock solid... and really want to grow into something awesome... I want to buy now... well simply cause I have some extra cash. lol


I love hearing what people have to say!! THANKS AGAIN!!!
Old 08-16-2011, 08:55 PM
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try omp models super light strong and flys great the best prices also
Old 08-17-2011, 06:57 AM
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Default RE: Best 3D 30% Aircraft???

Have you looked at the SBach? I have that, an EF Extra, and a Pilot Yak and the SBach gets the majority of the flight time.
Old 08-17-2011, 11:19 AM
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GMP has a really nice SBACH on sale.
I seen this plane fly a few weeks ago and there is no wing rock at high alpha harriers.
http://www.giantmodelproducts.com/in...&products_id=4
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The SBach is a great 3D airplane. I had the Pilot RC one from Chief. I also have the EF Yak and the EF Edge. All three are excellent at 3D. I very favorite for 3D though is the SBach. I think it does it better than all the others. Mostly,,,,,,because of the way it flatspins and waterfalls. Nothing does them better I don't believe.
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