AtomicFrawg

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Hey I was looking for a good 3D prop for an OS 1.60.
This will be put on a 1/4 greatplanes Giles 202 Arf

Thanks
Chris

rvd

I'm using a normal Zinger18X6 and it works fine. You can also try the 18X6W APC..

RickP

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I wound up with a Pro-Zinger 18-8. That worked perfectly for me. However the pull out of a TR was lacking slightly. I'm not sure if this was due to the plane being slightly underpowered. Might want to try something with a little less pitch. Certinally a 18-8 is the largest for this motor, I think that's the consensis anyway.
RP

AtomicFrawg

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Thanks
I think Ill try both and see what happens.

what do you guys think about this plane and engine combo.
Pretty much all i really want to do is hover and elevators.
What other 3D stuff did you guys get this plane to do.


Later
Chris

rockmon

Hey frawg,this is a perfect combo I've been flying mine for over a year and this plane will do anything you ask it to. As far as props go to pull out of a hover try an 18x6 Zinger wide blade actually that is the best all around prop it will help you slow the Giles down cause the Giles is a floater. There is no way in heck that the plane will be under powered with the O.S. it's a perfect combo. I'm sure you read about the plane going vertical on take off, mine didn't ever do that but watch it on your first take off anyway just to be safe. You can run the o.s. on 5% but I found 10% Omega gives ME the best performance. Good luck the Giles is a very fun plane. bob

basmntdweller

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I still prefer the Master Airscrew Classic series 18-6 wood prop. The only one of the forementioned props I haven't tried is the APC 18-6W. I have the 18-6 Pro Zinger on mine now and it's a decent prop as well. I dorked my MA last week horsing the plane off the ground. Don't do that!
later,,,basmntdweller

RickP

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Make sure the motor and stab are at 0-0 and wing at -1 and you shouldn't have the climbing problem on the first flight. Some times the belly pan prevents the wing from assuming the correct incidence.
I didn't mean to say it was underpowered, just pulling out of a hover with the 18-8 didn't seem to have that reasuring feel to it. I'll have to try a 18-6, but I also have a narrow with 18-8 I want to try.
RP

Tim_Indy

basmntdweller , try that APC 18-6 wide blade, you'll LIKE it. My digital fish.....er.......THRUST gauge showed it had the most thrust of the 5 props I tried (including the 18-6 and 18-8 Pro Zinger). In flight performance verified it had the best pull outta a hover pull of them too.

walshy

I'm running a power point 18x10 on a 4.7 kilo 64 inch extra with pump.... goes great!!!! but not the best for hover 18 x8 for that

krayzc-RCU

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for what you are looking for the 18 x 6 zinger pro will be the choice.

i have ran the following on my 2-OS-160

18 x 6W APC (3D spool up time will be slow)
18 X 6 Mejzlik
18 x 6 Zinger Pro

all of the above props have unlimted verticle the mejzlik over revs we are talking 9600 RPM on the ground with 15% cool power, richen up to 9400 F- plug.

18 x 8 Moki fast prop.

For all around flying i hear that 18 x 8 mejzlik is great again that is 4 all around flying. I have yet to try one.

skerlock

18 x 8 mejzlik ...You cant even begin to compare the zinger pro, zinger, apc (weighs a ton, spooling horrible ....) master airscrew...to the18 x 8 mejzlik, havent tried the 18x6 mejzlik but i could see it breaking the low 9,000 rpm's. considering my18 x 8 mejzlik turns a solid 8,500 rpm with un beliveable performance...I wish they would just sell this prop with the engine.....By the way I have run all of the above props not including the master air screw...also have run the menz..18/8...

Just my .02 worth

Scott

h82crash

Scott's right, 18x6 is probably under propped. We're getting into giant scale here and to get the thrust you have to prop at the peak of the torque range. I also use a Mezjlik 18x8 but would love to try a 19x6. Should have more thust.

basmntdweller

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Sorry to disagree, but I have ran the CF mejzlik 18-6 on my GP Giles and was not impressed, at least for the money. Performancewise, the mejzlik, Pro-Zinger and the MA wood scimitar all in 18-6, were basically equal. I have a Pro-Zinger 20-6 but have not tried it yet. I am concerned it may cause the engine to run too hot.
On the ground, the APC seems the best but it's response time is horrible. It seems to take forever to spool up or react to quick throttle changes.
Later,,,basmntdweller

mugenkidd

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I run the APC 17-8 on my creek extra 330 with the 160 fx, turns about 9200 on the ground and great performance, speed and thrust, a lot better than the mejzlik 18-8 carbon fiber prop. I get the same thrust maybe a little better, but I can fly the plane noticably faster. If anyone wants the 18-8 CF I'll sell it for $25.

krayzc-RCU

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mugenkidd
i sent you a PM

skerlock

Does this look like the same or almost the same performance....NOT..

Results

Each manufacturer will perform diff like a Volkswagen vs a Porch..I'm sure you would see similar diff. from the 18/6... None of the 18/6's will perform well on that engine..under propped...

Results in 18/8

Zinger Pro 8900-9100 104 Rpm Decibels at 10 feet
Apc 8800-8900 Rpm 102 Decibels at 10 feet
Mejzlik 8400-8500 Rpm 96 Decibels at 10 feet
Menz 8100-8200 Rpm 96 Decibels at 10 feet

Perry vp-30
Bisson Pitts Muffler
15% Fuel
in San Diego, CA

this is from 2 different planes and both 160 OS

basmntdweller

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Decibels measure noise not performance. Mejzlik's have been optimized to reduce noise. They are probably the quietest prop available. That does not mean they are the best prop. I can test a group of props for static thrust but the one with the highest thrust won't necessarily be the quietest or the best performing. This performance is also based in "feel". If you were to time a climb from hover to a gain of say 20 feet, the APC 18-6W will win out over most other props but it's spool up time is terrible and you will have a much tougher time holding altitude in a hover because of the spoolup lag.
On my GP Giles, I guarantee that the plane will perform better on the Mejzlik 18-6 or the MA scimitar or the Pro-Zinger 18-6 than any of those brands 18-8s. I have tried all but the mejzlik 18-8. A 19-6 or a 20-6 may be better than any of the 18"ers. I haven't had time to try them plus I have too many of these 18" props already.
basmntdweller

krayzc-RCU

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well i will try out the 18 x 8 carbon fiber on a DP Bipe and let you all know how it does for me on the East Coast thanks to basmntdweller. I just found an 17 x 8 menz in my stash i will try that one out to. I wish i had tried that one on my RCS 1.4 before i snatched it off my funtana a few weeks ago. Still looking for a home for that motor. I may have to kit bash (extend the wings and fuse) a fun fly to do that one on although someone did tell me to look at the u can 3d.

ofremmi

I have been using APC 19x8W on my OS 140RX equiped Funtana. I would be very surprised if it's not a perfect prop for the 160 also.
Ola

robert

When you going to fix the Funtana Ola?

ofremmi

Well,well. Not sure, maybe never. The new Funtane pro with airfoil-shaped tailsurfaces sounds tempting.
Ola

Spillmann

At the moment I'm working at a Funtana Pro. I'll try the 19x8 W and the 18x10.

@ Ola: By the way: Your new Synergy looks great! Do you fly with it in Bendern?

Jean-Claude

rockmon

I am running a MA 19x8 scimitar on my 1.60 in a GP Giles and am very happy with it over the 18x6-18x8's that I had been running and does not seem over propped.

skerlock

Whats the rpm u all are seeing on the 19 / 8 . The term better or i like it, or the best doesn't help ...Need facts please, so others can benefit from your experience? By the way , what characteristic do you like that makes it better? Thank you...

Scott

krayzc-RCU

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i have a 19 x 8 scimitar in my arsal of props i will see if i can get it bolted on the os in the next week. i will let you all know my thougths.