littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

Seems you added quite a bit to your original post while I was replying to another...and since you once again seem to cast me with some group...

Here is something that may be hard for you to understand, as I find it almost universally misunderstood. There is a critical distinction about my position on AMA; I am not against AMA per se. I just happen to have a real problem with the interpretation many have of it and the way that misinterpretation is perpetuated by some. maybe most people within...I understand that if something isn't done soon it will ultimately become an organization that will fulfill their perceptions of it.

phlpsfrnk

TheEdge,
You are correct; I have reread my posts here and believe I have been reasonable, factual and civil in my responses and requests. The best I’ve gotten in return has been sarcasm and ridicule which is SOP when he has ever dealt with me.

Here's an example of a thread that he participated in, moderated and made off topic posts and again locked without reason given;

http://www.modelaircraft.org/forums/tm.aspx?m=14066

Please note that he has never shown any factual evidence or provided examples of wrong doing on my part and I seriously doubt that he can. Until he does I’m done.

Regards
Frank

TheEdge

My Feedback: (788)

It's obvious that no one is going to be satisfied with anyones answers and yet you still keep dragging it on and on.
None of you will get what you want and your certainly not going to get the time back that youv'e lost to this cause.

Don't you see this?

So why keep going?

Arbo

Yes, you used the desire, stated by Jim Rice, to close down the forum due to the lack of civil behavior (as he had administrator/moderator access as well). There is a huge irony in all of that, considering who he considered to be those that were causing all the 'trouble'.

Stuff where you broke the rules and required moderation:
1) Attacks on Kidepoxy
2)"I also agree with Brad that moderators should not moderate threads they participate in. I hope the moderation I’ve already seen here was done by a third (uninvolved) moderator." Removed because the AMAPresident said point blank, discussion of the moderation was not a topic for the public forum, to use PM's and other methods. This was a recurring theme by you, broking at least dozens of times. Including one where you referred to the other moderator as a 'brown nose'.
3) you often responded to others and went on rants about their 'lack of comprehension', again, against the rules.
4) You quite often reposted messages that were removed due to rules violations.
5) you went on a rampage about how the leader members were 'hiding' stuff, insisting that sub form needed to be open to the public, just about always crossing the lines of the rules in terms of negativity put forth, and yet again, when messages were removed, you continuiously reposted them anway, with a total disreguard for the rules.

I could go on, but I think this makes the point towards you statement that you 'never did wrong'....


TheEdge, how is a quick post here and there wasting of any more time than the posts you have made so far?

TheEdge

My Feedback: (788)

Your right, I have wasted too much time already.

Hossfly

Arbo, I am not here to argue or blame you. My post above pretty well stated that I think the named administrator did just exactly as you state. He removed my post and revised his own that I had remarked about.

That, Arbo, is your choice, so be it. As for me, I do not care to bow down to those that want everything to be dancing around the posies. That "....let's just kiss..." attitude has brought this whole country to its knees. I was, is and will be one that can speak his piece.

Many individuals have seen their rulers in that same type of environment. They follow/ed the "RULES" and do/did as they are/were directed. Were YOU, Arbo, picked because someone believed that you were such, that you would do what the Big Guys upstairs directed, regardless of the hurt placed on the lower individuals and groups? [:@]

You are entitled to believe whatever you wish. I try to give credit where credit is due, but I don't think many that know me will say that I am afraid to violate the rules, without any question, when I think they are wrong.
As of now, I am through with this thread. [:'(]

ctrout

Hey Edge! I have a few of the Es. 10 I think at last count.
A video you may like. http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2774090130052

Arbo

As I said, some think they 'own' part of the forum so they should be allowed to say whatever they want, and some think the the above statement, either way, in the end, it is a disreguard for following the rules. And it is never *their* fault, and they never did anything *wrong*. Yep.

FILE IFR

Same thoughts here.

Fact: Folks who thrive on confrontation shouldn't moderate.

jerrysu29

That's to bad what are those 10 poor soles going to do know. AMA may want to increase Security at Muncie. Goodbye

Arbo

Considering the level of threats and demands they received over a simple forum, that might be a good idea on their part.

Darkbird

My Feedback: (7)

WOW, 10 days and 10 pages, and the horse is still dead. Whack-whack-whack. Just let it go guys.

rcflyertim

"Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post."

Pretty simple policy stated by RCU. Some of you have no self control. I just read all 10 pages on this forum and I sit here asking myself.....really!!!???

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

Ahh... Come on Hossy, give me a little sugar..sweetie.

Seriously, Hoss is right on target with that one.

I much rather have a conversation where people can and do speak their mind rather than being held to a politically correct standard... But with that being said forums must have some very clear rules and those rules should be clear enough to not allow subjective or arbotrary decisions about what is acceptable. The rules at the AMA site could have been rendered into just one; If we (anyone of us) don't like what you post we will remove it and if you do that enough we will ban you... That just about covers it.

The problem over there was that "kissing"...err... up... determined who did the cutting.

Arbo

Again, the above statement is about the furthest from the truth one can get. Repeating it doesn't make it true.

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

I suspect that if you had not been a moderator there you would be saying something very similar to what everyone else has been saying...

Bill G

There's another forum that does that also. Always denied, but there are more than enough people who have attested to it with more than enough examples. What I've observed is that by the time people start speaking out about it, the issue is well known to impartial users of the forum that spend much time there. Even if you get a crowd of people posting about the issues, they would still deny it though. In their case however, they wisely do their best to neither confirm or deny the claims, simply not responding to them.

Arbo

And your suspicions would be incorrect.

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

I might believe that... but when I look at how you responded to another AMA forum site when actions were taken against you...I am going to stay with my first blush...

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

I think I know which one your talking about...and I agree.

Arbo

Oh be honest, you aren't going to let even a tiny bit of reality enter your brain and thus taint your preconceived notions.

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

Oh be honest, you aren't going to let even a tiny bit of reality enter your brain and thus taint your preconceived notions.

Hey, ain't it about time for somebody to make another post about beating a dead horse???

Arbo

Ah, copying words. But they apply to you. As it has been shown again and again, and the forum is still open where you can see posts that disagree with AMA policy still there. So it was never about what was liked or not liked, it was about the rules. Pure and simple. If you (or anyone else) was unable or unwilling to follow them, that is the fault of that individual alone.

littlecrankshaf

My Feedback: (58)

Ok Arbo,

What you don't understand is that I understand you got caught up in the crossfire. That crossfire is inevitable in situations where divisiveness is a constant. That divisiveness was a simple proposition of AMA's (who ever that is) intent to utilize a discussion forum for the main purpose to project a positive image of itself... It was destined to fail from the beginning...doesn't take genius to see that!!! Can you say "conflict of interest"???

You were just a pawn in the endeavor.

Arbo

It appears that you still do not see the big picture.