Another Drone Pilot does it Again
08-22-2015, 01:00 PM
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Part of the problem is the US Senate Republicans. I am a Republican and this is not a political comment - it is a statement of fact. The US House finally passed an FAA appropriation bill this summer. It is a 6 year bill but only 3 years are funded. It also funds new several FAA programs. The Senate, however, only wants to continue the string of 34 (count that 34) 3 month continuing resolutions. These do not new programs but do include sending their home states money. I will not give my opinion on why these Senators would prefer to send their states money every three months rather that a full 6 years appropriation because that would be political and I do not want this to be political comment.
08-22-2015, 07:17 PM
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You got that right. Most hobby drones sold today already have the line-of-sight and 400 ft altitude protections built in. These clowns just disable them so disabling a RFID tag will be no problem. The solution to detection is to look for transmissions on the video frequencies these clowns are using. Two detectors near an airport can home on in on the UAV and send the info to the police. The police can then vector a helicopter to the location to continue tracking. Knowing what frequency they are broadcasting video on will also allow that video to be jammed. forcing a return to home.
Jamming the video down link may be more doable, since this equipment generally uses a limited number of 5.8GHz, 900MHz, and 1.2GHz frequencies.These bands are far less crowded, which may make it easier. Keep in mind, however, that one cold not track the base station (e.g. the FPV monitor or goggles,) since the transmitting is originating from the done, not the ground. If the pilot activated the "return to home" mode when after loosing video, authorities could theoretically follow the drone.
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08-24-2015, 02:57 PM
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North Dakota is authorized to operate drones for specific data, not recreational use, as I read.
That's OK, but idiots that fly in the approach decent zone or take off altitude zone within 5 miles of an active airport with these quad copters, are the problem. I don't know how else to explain my position any more clear.
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08-25-2015, 03:57 PM
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Accidents are Preventable, " IF" you have the knowledge" on how to prevent it from happening in the first place..
Then standing without proper support from the AMA or the FAA, how do we get something done? Is it possible?
This hobby will be in Harms Way if something is not done to preserve it. If these clowns continue the antics they perform today, we will be in Deep Trouble.
08-25-2015, 07:14 PM
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Ok then. Now my question to people that are concerned about this, "What can we do to help preserve our hobby before this problem results in a major Accident",?
Accidents are Preventable, " IF" you have the knowledge" on how to prevent it from happening in the first place..
Then standing without proper support from the AMA or the FAA, how do we get something done? Is it possible?
This hobby will be in Harms Way if something is not done to preserve it. If these clowns continue the antics they perform today, we will be in Deep Trouble.
Accidents are Preventable, " IF" you have the knowledge" on how to prevent it from happening in the first place..
Then standing without proper support from the AMA or the FAA, how do we get something done? Is it possible?
This hobby will be in Harms Way if something is not done to preserve it. If these clowns continue the antics they perform today, we will be in Deep Trouble.
08-26-2015, 03:31 AM
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Nope...if for no other reason that nothing that is written here will make a difference. Won't stop the doom and gloom predictions though about the hobby, or the AMA, or FAA for that matter. It is what it is. Keep flying safe and have fun, works for me.
08-26-2015, 08:42 AM
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IMO there will be no major accident. There may be a midair with a quad, but it will most likely result in a small dent or ding on the aircraft. Not saying it is not possible, just that it isn't likely.
08-26-2015, 10:14 AM
#2443
would bring down the copter.
08-26-2015, 11:18 AM
#2445
I doubt a quad will bring down a aircraft but almost any contact could cause a expensive repair and that IMO will be a major problem.
08-26-2015, 11:20 AM
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I doubt a quad will bring down a aircraft but almost any contact could cause a expensive repair and that IMO will be a major problem. I heard on TV the other day that fire department officials are worried about a drone taking out the tail rotor on a water dropping helicopter which
would bring down the copter.
would bring down the copter.
I know a small bird will fly though a tail rotor without crashing the helicopter, not sure about a larger bird, but I suspect only the larger quads would do significant damage to the tail rotor. Fairly small target though.
08-26-2015, 12:15 PM
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Tracking the transmitter's signal is an interesting idea. Direction finding equipment can be used to track the source of a transmission, and RC transmitters are continuously transmitting whenever they are powered up. However, I wonder how difficult it would be to track a 2.4GHz source, with the countless number of 2.4GHz signals that are continuously bombarding every cubic inch of the atmosphere. I don't have enough knowledge to determine if judge whether or not DF equipment could accurately determine which RF signal is coming from the RC transmitter. To complicate things, some long range systems use the 70cm band (approx. 400+ MHz). Would these signals be easier to trace than 2.4GHz signals?
Jamming the video down link may be more doable, since this equipment generally uses a limited number of 5.8GHz, 900MHz, and 1.2GHz frequencies.These bands are far less crowded, which may make it easier. Keep in mind, however, that one cold not track the base station (e.g. the FPV monitor or goggles,) since the transmitting is originating from the done, not the ground. If the pilot activated the "return to home" mode when after loosing video, authorities could theoretically follow the drone.
Jamming the video down link may be more doable, since this equipment generally uses a limited number of 5.8GHz, 900MHz, and 1.2GHz frequencies.These bands are far less crowded, which may make it easier. Keep in mind, however, that one cold not track the base station (e.g. the FPV monitor or goggles,) since the transmitting is originating from the done, not the ground. If the pilot activated the "return to home" mode when after loosing video, authorities could theoretically follow the drone.
08-26-2015, 12:25 PM
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I doubt a quad will bring down a aircraft but almost any contact could cause a expensive repair and that IMO will be a major problem. I heard on TV the other day that fire department officials are worried about a drone taking out the tail rotor on a water dropping helicopter which
would bring down the copter.
would bring down the copter.
08-26-2015, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
everyone talks about drones so why dont you all get togethe and do something about them talk dont help action does